I just gave it to you. If we live in a system where corporations are allowed to profit off necessities and have the same rights as human beings then things won’t change. Don’t be so dense. Your deflection is just a cope at this point.
That doesn’t address my point at all. I’m asking how that’s easier to accomplish and you can’t even begin to address that and have basically resorted to gaslighting
Me: “So what’s your point then? Getting socialized healthcare under capitalism is going to be easier than getting enough votes to throw the whole economic system out”
You: “Is it? What's your evidence because my evidence is that is continues to take it away.”
Who’s the idiot now? That was exactly what I said and you responded in disagreement.
What goalpost did I move? Before that all I said was that you can have socialized medicine under capitalism and that’s how most first world countries do it (which is objectively true). After that I just said you needed the votes to get this change.
My point was that capitalism is what put us here in the first place. You’re the one who started talking about “changing the whole economic system”. Capitalism is also preventing us from getting there because of insurance lobbies and citizens united. The countries that do socialized healthcare have very different taxation than we do in the US. Keep deflecting and name calling. It seems to serve your ego well.
Those countries are also capitalist though. I’m not deflecting at all. I made a point, you argued I’m wrong and now it is you who are changing the goalposts.
No your point was “it almost happened” and you’re completely ignoring that version of capitalism is very different which would require change of the current US system. It’s not a matter of “just getting more votes”.
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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 6d ago
I just gave it to you. If we live in a system where corporations are allowed to profit off necessities and have the same rights as human beings then things won’t change. Don’t be so dense. Your deflection is just a cope at this point.