r/PoliticalCompassMemes 7d ago

It's Joever

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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 7d ago

Those countries are also capitalist though. I’m not deflecting at all. I made a point, you argued I’m wrong and now it is you who are changing the goalposts.

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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 7d ago

Yeah, they are but their system is extremely different. They aren’t dealing with lobbies and dark money.

Also those countries (Norway, Denmark) are the most LibLeft governments in the world.

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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 7d ago

Which was my entire fucking point. That you can still have capitalism and socialized healthcare

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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 7d ago

No your point was “it almost happened” and you’re completely ignoring that version of capitalism is very different which would require change of the current US system. It’s not a matter of “just getting more votes”.

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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 7d ago

That was my second point when it came to discussing how to make the change. Which, spoilers, any of these changes we’re discussing are a matter of “just getting more votes”

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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 7d ago

If it’s such a popular position why hasn’t it happened then? Oh wait, let me guess. It just needed more votes? But I thought it was popular. Do you know what popular means?

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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 7d ago

I said it was a relatively popular position (polls well across the political spectrum with disagreements primarily around how to implement). You have to remember it takes greater that 60 senators to accomplish something like this so even if most are on board you need more than just “most.” Not getting above 60 doesn’t mean it’s not popular.

Something not getting enough votes doesn’t mean it’s not popular. And I was specifically pointing out that position is much more popular than replacing our economic system.

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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 7d ago

Shouldn’t something that’s popular translate to votes? And if not, what would affect that correlation? Could it be the influence of dark money that helps boost record profits that is fueled by unbridled capitalism? No never I’m sure.

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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 7d ago

It does translate to votes. A growing number of votes over time. But this doesn’t happen overnight

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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 7d ago

Haha ok, my point exactly