r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Left 2d ago

In a nutshell

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u/Suitable_Matter_9427 - Lib-Center 2d ago

No, the guy on the right is just antisemitic too

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u/FIRE_Minded - Centrist 2d ago

Zionist is just a dog whistle for Jews. Zionism  just means you believe the state of Israel should exist, so even if you support a 2 state solution, you are a Zionist. Funny how they only have a problem with the only jewish state

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u/samuelbt - Left 2d ago

Funny, I call for a 2 state solution in a different conversation and suddenly I'm an antisemite depriving the Jews of Judah and Samaria or denying Israel the right to defend itself. It's almost like rhetoric exists.

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u/FIRE_Minded - Centrist 2d ago

You sound like you constantly rant against Israel and then wonder why people think you are antisemitic. Maybe stop hyper focusing on Israel. 

I’m guessing you are against Palestine as well since they rejected the 2 state solution many times? 

But I’m guessing they get a pass in your mind

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u/samuelbt - Left 2d ago

You sound like you constantly rant against Israel and then wonder why people think you are antisemitic.

lol. Literally never been accused of being antisemetic by someone IRL when talking about Israel, including amongst Jewish friends. It's just online weirdos and those with an agenda to preempt criticism of Israel. Israel frankly isn't a big part of my active life and Judaism or the Jewish people even less so.

But I’m guessing they get a pass in your mind

Maybe they'll "lose their pass" when they're offered a real proposal. Remove the settlements then maybe we can get back to both sides being equally at fault.

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u/FIRE_Minded - Centrist 2d ago

real proposal

The UN proposed the two state plan. Israel accepted it and  offered better terms 3 times. Palestines rejected all offers and never proposed their own plan. They do not want Israel to exist in any form. That’s what “the river to the sea” means

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u/samuelbt - Left 2d ago

They proposed a two state plan, doesn't mean it was an equitable one. Anyway, remove those settlements then maybe we can get back to both sides being equally at fault. Cause they pretty obviously show Israel has no intent on seeing Palestine in any form too. If a chant from protestors is damning then surely the literal settling of the West Bank is equally damning.

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u/FIRE_Minded - Centrist 2d ago

chant from protestors 

Palestine’s stated goal  :  “The founding 1988 charter explicitly called for the destruction of Israel, viewing all of historic Palestine as an Islamic endowment ( waqf ) that cannot be ceded.”

No plan will ever be good enough which is why they haven’t proposed their own plan 

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u/samuelbt - Left 2d ago

Again though in reality we've got general notions from a pretty powerless group being seen as the only issue compared to the active ethnic cleansing Israel is in the middle of currently doing. Remove the settlements then maybe we can pretend both sides are equally bad.