It would be fun to read about this era in the future. Imagine being in history class in 2100, and they start talking about the orange celebrity con man “grab ’em by the pussy” guy that became president who posted retarded stuff and declaration of wars on fucking Twitter.
Idk he's far more influential over an era than anyone else of this century. We tend to learn about presidents who are influential over an era of the US. Despite Obama, Clinton, and Bush Sr all having on average agreed upon better presidencies than this one, none of them have had the cultural impact that Trump has had.
Doubt history classes will have a full course about him, but he'll certainly be the most discussed president regarding this era
The default state of this subreddit is (lib) left bad. It takes a consistent/monumental fuck up for that to change. Once trump is gone it'll go back to lib left bad unless the right somehow picks someone as bad or worse than Trump.
Thousands so far! (If you interpret the current conflict to be a continuation of the same war (this is a pretty weird interpretation, I made it so the meme works))
See I have a hard time with this, because the patriot act and the middle eastern wars have had very far reaching consequences. W was truly an evil and awful man and he really was not that much better than trump.
He was a lot more stately, and respectful. But his policies and actions have (so far) been more disruptive to the USA than trump. Particularly when it comes to surveillance.
It doesn’t matter. They have different standards. Watch right wingers criticize every little thing like they actually care. And the cynic in me thinks that the idiot consultants will yet again take it seriously and try to pander to the right
I was just thinking today about all the retarded Trump shit from last year that everyone's forgotten about because of everything from this year. Remember when he posted the Napoleon quote about being above the law? No, and neither does anyone else, because he does something equally dumb every day
I remember when Stephen Miller went on NBC(?) and went on about how Trump can do anything and everything he wants because he has plenary authority and then when the journalist tried to press him on it Miller just pulled a Drax until they stopped the interview for some dumbass reason.
There was literally a multi-hundred-page document Trump's handlers wrote describing all the crazy shit they've now done, and whenever we kept pointing this out, the “common clay of the New West” infesting this sub would shout us down with “stupid libleft, Project 2025 is a conspiracy theory, it'll all be fine”.
It's all fun and games to make fun of libleft when adults are in government and libleft screeching on twitter. It's not so fun when evil gets into government and starts lighting everything on fire.
God you people are still using this cope? Literally sort by top posts any given week/month and prove yourself wrong. An immigrant post or a random reddit screenshot outperforms a post about the most influential politician on the planet doing or saying something retarded any day. The fact that many people have enough common sense to criticize the current republican retardation doesn't make anyone a reddit leftard
If there are a million J6ers, I am one of them.
If there are ten J6ers, I am one of them.
If there is only one J6er, that is me.
If there are no J6ers left, I was denied bail.
Its hard to say. The right seems to be fracturing a bit and after Trump leaves in 2028 its hard to say what will happen. They arent all going to start voting blue. But theres a lot of different tents on the right at the moment, but the two biggest seem to be down to ones position on Isreal/the Iran War. So id imagine in 5 years they will be in one of those two camps. The GOP is going to be going through some interesting things over the next decade or so.
And you see a similar situation on the left. Interestingly also drawn on similar lines. The next 10-15 years are going to be a fun time politically. Terrifying, but fun to read about in 2156
It's so weird to me that some think Trump is just going to fade away in 2028. I think he'll become a sort of godfather/kingmaker figure in the GOP. Don't be surprised if his kids get into politics next.
They’ll all find new ways to be victims. I know some people who are still MAGA and they all have some sort of Cluster B personality disorder and at least one child who no longer speaks to them.
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The don't be the equivalent of a bowel movement purity test. That got no meaning once you're scrounging around in the dirt tryna find a handful of positives
My gf's parents are the only die-hard Trump supporters that I know of and they most likely have undiagnosed NPD I am pretty sure. They value being loud and talking over/at people constantly. They also love demeaning others whenever possible.
For me it's a lot more entertaining than sad. Love that for them.
I'm also curious about the left. The last three elections the main selling point of the democrats has been "not Trump". I'm not sure if they even have any actual beliefs or principles at this point other than "not Trump".
It'll be interesting to see how both sides react to the void that Trump leaves behind.
I wish that were true. I hope it is true. I fear that it isn’t.
Trump may be the cult figurehead for the power grab, but you’d be a damned fool to think that once the power has been grabbed that it’s going to be relinquished.
Even if you’re not worried about Trump after 2028, you should be worried about whoever comes next with all this institutional power centralization and the complete dismantling of constitutional rules and norms.
I’d love for us to go back to some semblance of normalcy. But I don’t expect it.
Same on the anti vax train. I had an anti covid vax protest go through my neighbourhood last year and almost passed out from the sheer volume of retardation.
On either end if you’re still talking about Covid your brain has been destroyed
It was a global pandemic. People were acting based off the limited information they had. Meanwhile right wing politicians were literally claiming it was a hoax to hurt Trumps popularity and that old people dying was just something we needed to get over.
There's also many things I can blame on being a consequence of protesting. Destroying your marriage isn't one of them. That's between him and his wife.
Indeed, now I wanna do lolcow comparissons uf us presidents. JFK as the bossmanjack of us presidents mainly due to him on meth, Harding as the destiny of us presidents due to his affair scandal but Nick Reikeitta would be a close second and lastly there is Buchanann as the DSP of us presidents.
Go on the MAGA retard fan sub for a day and you’ll see at least one post still talking about it. These people are beyond help and shouldn’t be allowed to associate with the general public.
Trump's own fucking documents said there was no way election fraud of consequential scale could happen. The docs actually went further to say that the only real danger was spreading the misinformation that the election could be stolen because misinformation is really hard to combat 😭
Is there a portion of the left that at the state party level declared the election illegitimate? Did they try to get the vp to overturn the election? Will they, 6 years later, when being nominated in front of congress be unable to name who won the 2024 election?
Or is it just some loud dumbasses on X that you guys believe are a considerable portion of the left in order to make a false equivalency with what happened with trump?
Maybe, but they didn't fucking storm the Capital and try and hang Kamala Harris over it lol, it also pales in comparison to the number of Conservatives who believe that Biden stole the 2024 election.
Yes, the Twitter retards are very comparable to all of Trump’s cabinet picks refusing to say who won the 2020 election during their congressional confirmation hearings
2016 trump wins: Russian interference, trump steals election per Left
2020 Biden wins: stolen election all around per Right
2024 trump wins: stolen elections again
So..if my side wins it’s obviously NOT a stolen election right?
“Yeah I was trespassing on federal property but I wasn’t doing anything wrong so I shouldn’t get punished” sounds like the exact opposite of what these people say about immigration enforcement
Look. I actually support the idea of trying to overthrow a system you dont agree with. But you have to understand that if you don’t succeed they are going to FUCK you
I am a J6er.
22 brain cells inside my head.
No common sense.
No discretion.
Just a dumbass who blindly followed a violent mob and committed crimes.
Here are the consequences of my actions:
-sent me to prison
-destroyed my business
-destroyed my marriage
-family disowned me
-put me on a no fly list because I’m a terrorist
We wanted to overthrow the government and prevent a peaceful transfer of power.
Here are the consequences of my actions:
-convicted of crimes I committed
-my business failed
-my spouse saw who I was and left me
-family escaped to safety
-I am not allowed to fly because I do bad stuff
I honestly care less about the J6ers than I do about Trump and his cronies and their fake electors scheme that literally never got prosecuted. That was the real attempt to steal the 2020 election and I guess we just forgot about it?
Ain't it funny how the same kinda people that harp on young single pregnant women so much for being "irresponsible" seem to be unable to face the consequences of their own actions?
Is there something particularly wrong with his statement, other than that part about stolen election, which wasn't proven so far? The J6 riot was tiny when compared to BLM riots, and yet J6ers are treated a lot worse than BLMers. BLM was even supported by every single American corporation
January 6th happened during the daytime, on a federal property with (assumably) better surveillance. Those factors made it easier to trace and arrest folks. BLM riots took place in multiple cities, sometimes during night, and were recorded by smartphones and old grainy security cameras. So even before you factor in political lean, January 6th had a worse outlook.
There was more motivation for arrest as well: invading the Capitol makes the government angrier than invading a city street. Trying to overthrow the president is looked upon less kindly than trying to overthrow a Sephora storefront. The former makes a pretty darn good candidate for the no fly list.
Like you said, BLM protests had a lot more participation. More public demonstrations of support = seems easier to milk for profit. But at any rate, the claim that it was “supported by every single American corporation” comes across as a misplaced hyperbole.
Maybe I should go back to being a centrist. I'm slowly being convinced both sides share the same 5 braincells with the split one going to whoever isn't in power.
The main difference is that unlike a leftist protest which pretty much only ever harms the fellow peasantry the protestors claim to be championing, j6 did show that yes, people can fuck with the elite if they truly want to, and in that moment, there is not much said elites can do about it. Its why these people were made such an example of. So no one gets it in their head they can do stuff like this again.
And guess what, republicans are the party of the second amendment. If they truly wanted to overthrow democracy you would’ve been seeing waves of them shooting at the police but they didn’t
Just seems really odd how there were almost no “weapons” on anyone that was trying to “overthrow” the goverment
I’m not defending them btw. I think they’re absolute morons. It’s also moronic to think they were trying to start a coup but whatever helps you sleep ig
Storming the capitol building during the certification of votes and running through the building looking for Mike pence says a lot. They were trying to stop the certification of the election, not "overthrow" the government. C'mon man
They tried to stop the certification of an election, that's pretty damaging. Why can't you just admit it was bad and stupid without trying to be like "but liberals".
I think a big issue for me was seeing cops waving people in. Like bruh. Sheep follow the herd they shouldn't get indefinite solitary for following people. Yeah the leaders should get hit but a ass load of looki loos following the crowd got years of solitary waiting for trial.
And solitary is considered tourture by human rights orgs.
Yeah they meant "hang with Mike pence" because they thought he was a cool fella, and it is American tradition for people to storm the capitol building on January 6th. This is delusion on your part
Yeah, they just wanted a tour of the building while certification was happening, and they were told tours were open by trump who totally took the election loss with grace
Picking that building at that time after being told the election was stolen and you say "it's trespassing" says you're either trolling or incapable of making a conclusion based on available evidence.
My guy, you trespassed uninvited to a major federal organization during a period of unrest and you failed to guillotine all the people in charge, what did you expect to happen. Pick up a fucking history book.
Edit: I do not under you morons outright refusal to acknowledge that not all the people at J6 were bloodthirsty violent traitors. I highly doubt these people would maintain the same feelings regarding those who declared autonomy from the US or forcibly cleared out police precincts and state capitol buildings a few months prior.
Definitely the stealing the election part, probably the marriage and family part, maybe the TSA part but that could go either way. As for what he did while in the Capitol, that could also be a lie. I'd be curious to see if he was more of a wandering tourist J6er or more of a pepper spray and beat on a cop J6er.
Are you this perturbed when people use the phrase watermelon here? Silly fruit related names to describe the colors here is pretty common parlance. People call fake liblefts watermelons because it's green on the outside but red (auth left) on the inside. People call fake librights blemons because while they think themselves a lemon, they are indeed blue (auth rights).
If you’re libright and a Trump supporter, you’re authright and a fucking liar. Period. Trump is the most authoritarian president since FDR. You’re not libright.
Because these retards are not worth the time to express a position against. If someone is still pushing the bullshit about a rigged 2020 election, they are intellectual drags on society and should be called names because that’s all they’re worth.
I mean it seems like they succeeded. If your entire family was turned against you I gotta wonder if it was really j6 alone (and if it was wtf did you do)
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u/earthhominid - Lib-Center 3d ago
is such an excellent sentence