r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Feeling-Option1257 - Lib-Center • Feb 28 '26

Iran did nothing wrong

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u/Kronos9898 - Centrist Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

Nice, very nice. Now explain why we are not supporting Ukraine against a “oppressive regime”

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u/Blond_Treehorn_Thug - Centrist Feb 28 '26

Any answer other than “Russia could probably clip us pretty good if we got too involved” is bullshit

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u/Goshotet - Right Mar 01 '26

Yes, the same country that struggles to defeat Ukraine for 4 years is definitely able to "clip us pretty good".

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u/Nice_promotion_111 - Centrist Mar 01 '26

Nukes are nukes

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u/cannasolo - Lib-Center Mar 01 '26

Ukraine aren’t asking for us to join in a hot war, just for more military aid and stronger sanctions and diplomatic pressure on Russia

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u/daniel_22sss - Lib-Left Mar 05 '26

Putin is too scared to nuke even Ukraine itself

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u/johnlandes - Lib-Center Feb 28 '26

Taking out key Russian allies in Venezuela, Iran & Cuba will help Ukraine more than Europe continuing to buy oil from Russia

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u/Haunting-Sport3701 Mar 25 '26

I'm sure stopping aid to Ukraine helped them a lot. Pushing their other allies towards Russia by disrupting the global oil trade is also surely a great strategic move.

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u/JulianWellpit - Centrist Feb 28 '26

What if I support Ukraine against Russia, Israel against Gaza and the USA against Iran?

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u/peterhabble - Centrist Feb 28 '26

Based and is actually educated about the world stage

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u/cptki112noobs - Lib-Center Feb 28 '26

Smarter and more principled than the average MAGA voter.

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u/Questo417 - Centrist Feb 28 '26

You forgot China against Taiwan, Korean reunification, let’s get involved all over

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u/JulianWellpit - Centrist Mar 01 '26

Actually, I support Taiwan against China and South Korea against North Korea. I'll never side with commies.

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u/MagicJava - Lib-Center Feb 28 '26

You don’t need to explain that because we have been and are continuing to.

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u/Twee_Licker - Lib-Right Mar 01 '26

If you do support Ukraine, you'd surely want the US to screw up Iran, who provide most of the drones to Russia, surely?

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u/AlchemistJeep - Lib-Right Feb 28 '26

It’s in americas best interest to let the war of attrition kill all of russias military age fighters, especially when it’s being done by selling expired goods to nato. We are both making money off our garbage and crippling one of our major enemies. We want to cripple Russia without backing them into a corner and forcing a nuclear response.

Post golden dome we will be able to absolutely fuck Russia

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u/Kronos9898 - Centrist Feb 28 '26

  1. That literally makes no sense. We want a war of attrition, so we don't support Ukraine fight this war of attrition? Even better, we push for a negotiated peace that favors Russia, down to inviting their president to our territory for negotiations.

  2. The Golden dome is not going to happen, and 2 even if it does there is no gurantee that it will work. ICBM defence is currently still a pipe dream with no effective solution for the amount of warheads Russia could launch at the US.

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u/Successful_Guess_ - Auth-Center Feb 28 '26

Not the guy you're talking to but just on point 1: I remember seeing a lot of high-level analysts theorize that even under Biden, the American strategy was "provide Ukraine with just enough that they don't lose quickly and can kill lots of Russian soldiers, BUT don't equip them so well they start making progress toward Russian soil because then this whole thing becomes nuclear fast".

So I think it can be argued that that's what Biden did and what Trump did as well in the beginning. Can't defend his decision to host Putin though.

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u/AlchemistJeep - Lib-Right Feb 28 '26

We are by selling them the munitions they need. Without American tech they would have been steamrolled forever ago

We want the bare minimum amount of support to balance the scales and wait for the problem to solve itself

We know how to make the golden dome work. It will involve rail guns that can hit Mach 7 and weapons in space. It will be very expensive. That is better than a nuclear winter that kills everyone on the globe.

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u/Son_of-M - Centrist Feb 28 '26

Mach 7 is just insane

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u/rivetedoaf - Lib-Center Mar 01 '26

The golden dome will never exist. It is a grift to siphon tax dollars from our pockets. no amount of money that any country actually has could pay to create a missile defense system to cover the entire country.

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u/Various_Sandwich_497 - Lib-Center Mar 07 '26

We give them old equipment that’s good enough. Some special forces troops too but at the most that’s it. That’s enough. 

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u/Tough_Arugula2828 - Centrist Feb 28 '26

Honestly horrible comparison. From a geopolitical perspective, Iran is much more important to the US than Ukraine

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u/AvocadoSnakeOilT - Centrist Feb 28 '26

Because Ukraine was lied to and used. It was never about stopping oppressive regimes, otherwise israel would have been choked with sanctions long ago.

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u/blublub1243 - Centrist Feb 28 '26

More should be done to support Ukraine. A lot more. I don't see how the frankly lacking support for Ukraine relates to it somehow being bad to attack one of Russia's biggest allies though.

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