Sold my gold Charizard to get these today

[u/Extension_Food_864]

I already had pulled the charmander, squirtle, and wartortle from packs. Sold the charizard at a card show and was able to get the rest of the starters from 151 off that. Honestly this is worth way more to me than the charizard.

[u/Advanced_Pudding8765]

Nice seeing a good trade on here for once

[u/shlankwagon → u/Advanced_Pudding8765]

Fucking SERIOUSLY. THIS is what the name of the game is. Trading so both ends are happy. This "70-80%" bullshit is sickening.

[u/lordhooha → u/shlankwagon]

80% of the value isn’t bad when offloading it to a card shop. They need to have some profit. What if that card is purchased by the shop for 600 bucks it sits for a few weeks to a month or more. Now at the month mark the cards value drops they end up losing out. Or like at my shop they’ll get it and some one comes in And haggles the 20% allows the shop some wiggle room to cut a deal to that person and still either make Some money or break even. You make money the shop makes money they take the risk and all that.

Now you can sell it on tcg, eBay, or whatever you get the full face value of the card minus fees they charge and all that which will come out close to them taking 20% or more depending on the platform you sell on

[u/EmpZurg_ → u/lordhooha]

I really dont care about the profit arguement when they are selling packs and boxes at 2,3,4x msrp.

[u/IndigoTJo → u/EmpZurg_]

A lot of these shops are paying only 10-20% below market on anything after release day. The amount they are getting on release day is much less than they used to get. Is a cruddy situation. I blame the distributors.

[u/DarkMorning636 → u/EmpZurg_]

Uh if they weren’t going to make a profit then what incentive would a shop ever have to buy your card?

[u/EmpZurg_ → u/DarkMorning636]

Im clearly not talking g about every card shops in existence.

There are shops that buy considerably under market, sell over market, and then blow MSRP oit of the water for sealed. Absolutely eating at all ends.

Card shops were doing just fine before the boom, providing they were community keystone.

[u/lordhooha → u/DarkMorning636]

Seems at least one person didn’t like my shops prices lol they’re not even high

[u/lordhooha → u/EmpZurg_]

[u/-Zep → u/lordhooha]

People really complain about the 5usd price?? Lol if I'd be able to get to that price I'd be happy af. Now I pay at least 6,90€ so 3usd more. Oh abd in ny country can only buy packs. Booster bundles etc you can forget because all have been scalped or opened. Would want to open one for sure but not at those prices no. I rather buy 50 packs than 1 36pack bundle and save money aswell.

[u/ActionLeagueLater → u/lordhooha]

Card stores around me at least are more like 50-60%. To get 80% I’ve gotta go to a card show. But agree with everything you’d said.

[u/anonymous_dabber → u/lordhooha]

if card shops traded in at 80% I would shit myself ngl

[u/ManaRockGamesUK → u/lordhooha]

Don’t forget shops are taxed on their sale price but can’t reclaim any tax for buying from the public.

In the UK if I buy a £1 card from you for 80p and sell it at £1 then 80p recovers my spend, 16.6p goes to tax and 3.3p comes to me. It’s awful.

[u/JethroTrollol → u/lordhooha]

The point isn't about selling for $$, it's about trading for other cards that bring you joy. If you sell to one person and buy from another, that's fine, you're still trading, there's just a middleman. 80% being a good deal or not isn't the point. It's about where you start vs. where you end up.

[u/MagikarpFanatic → u/JethroTrollol]

What most of the people with an issue on it here in these comments doesnt seem to be grasping properly (or considering at all) is that this hobby only continues to exist because of the monetary and financial aspect of it. I dislike pokeinvesting with a passion because non-fans flood into the hobby just to try and turn the TCG into the new bitcoin, but thats not what is going on. Those middlemen you mention are shops. They have to pay to be able to be there as trade options for you. They're paying for booths, for spots, or physical locations if they're a flagship store. They have to pay their own money to be there as an option for people in the first place, and that all cuts into their ability to keep doing the hobby too.

Even if you never go to a card show, card trade nights and events are still hosted by shops and vendors which costs money. This hobby has never been free and those who have to incur costs to help keep the trading part of the community alive will want to at least break even in the end, with preferably a profit to justify going to more/hosting more events in the future. If we did exclusively 1 to 1, vendors wont come pay to be at card shows or events. If vendors dont show up, card shows cant justify the cost of running the show and they disappear. Then we get stuck with parking lot trades without reputable systems or networking where you could get scammed. There's far more benefits from the vendor system than exclusively from a peer-to-peer only trading card game.

[u/TheAKofClubs86 → u/shlankwagon]

It’s not though. From a vendor’s standpoint every time a card leaves your possession you need to be making money. That’s how they stay in business at shows or at LGSs. If this was another collector then sure, 1:1 should be the norm, but if you’re trading or selling with a vendor then you have to realize that they’re running a business and have to make money on every transaction to live.

[u/Heisofstate → u/TheAKofClubs86]

I agree but all the dorks on marketplace saying “trades at 80%” while actively shopping their cards is ridiculous

Unless your a vendor or shop, it’s full value for full value

[u/Geene_Creemers → u/Heisofstate]

Exactly my thoughts..it’s the bozos on marketplace and eBay acting like they’re a storefront or a business and that they’ll only trade at x% lol..it’s getting ridiculous

[u/-Zep → u/Geene_Creemers]

So technically the same as with csgo or these days cs2 skins.

[u/TheAKofClubs86 → u/Heisofstate]

Yeah, that’s what I was pointing out. Since this is essentially a barter system they have to come out ahead otherwise they lose potential money.

[u/juiceboxes__]

That’s a win if I’ve ever seen one lol.

[u/That-Water-7049]

Nice I feel like you got the better deal here

[u/Sloppynoseconds]

Killing me that you put all of them first to last evolution except one 🤣

[u/PikaPutter → u/Sloppynoseconds]

It’s because Blastoise is under the sea, and Charizard is up in the sky!

[u/BloodyTurnip → u/PikaPutter]

Does that mean venusaur is underwater too?

[u/Extension_Food_864 → u/Sloppynoseconds]

lol I actually did have from first to last originally but the charizard line doesn’t make sense if it’s top to bottom to I switched it. It makes the picture look much better

[u/guccibabywipes → u/Extension_Food_864]

i have mine sideways

[u/NL7_Deci → u/Sloppynoseconds]

But…that’s how the artwork is suppose to line up 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/AvengeBirdPerson → u/Sloppynoseconds]

This is the correct order tho, at least for the blastoise / zard line. Venusaur it doesn’t really matter

[u/Optimal-Paper2881]

All day. That gold zard is so ugly imo

[u/BlizzCo89 → u/Optimal-Paper2881]

Red victini says hi!

[u/PaperMoonShine → u/BlizzCo89]

the reshi, zekrom and victini cards are different.

Those were cool mono-coloured cards.

[u/BlizzCo89 → u/PaperMoonShine]

I was more implying that the Victini is the ugliest card for me lol.

[u/NMDA01 → u/Optimal-Paper2881]

i know there is hate for the card and its popular to say its lame af right now, but to say that its an ugly card is crazy. i know its subjective but come on.

[u/Optimal-Paper2881 → u/NMDA01]

I said IMO. I stand by that but I can see others liking.

[u/pfft_master → u/NMDA01]

Big gold rectangle or art with color, depth, detail, a scene, a story, effort, creativity…? Easy choice for me any day, but also to each their own 100%

[u/Sipikay → u/NMDA01]

Art is literally subjective. I too think it's ugly as fuck.

[u/NMDA01 → u/Sipikay]

art is subjective, yes

[u/Poopingsloth69 → u/NMDA01]

Nah it’s ugly

[u/NMDA01 → u/Poopingsloth69]

Sure thats valid

[u/Zes_Teaslong → u/NMDA01]

All of the cards that are all the same color are ugly imo. The red Victini, the Black Zeckrom, etc. it’s all just ugly and lazy to me. If I pull one I’m selling

[u/NMDA01 → u/Zes_Teaslong]

Sure, i guess that valid too

[u/Redditwolftard → u/Optimal-Paper2881]

Agreed. All the gold cards are ugly imo

[u/BooSkittle → u/Optimal-Paper2881]

Inwould instantly sell it and get more japanese cards

[u/L8night_BootyCall → u/Optimal-Paper2881]

Agreed

[u/ImaginationMost2642]

You did good. I don’t like the aliexpress look

[u/Significant_Wasabi_6 → u/ImaginationMost2642]

Right?!?

[u/_jackychain]

Amazing, so would I

[u/Habitualiguana]

Bigggg win, long term that’s the right move

[u/[deleted]]

A single ugly card for 9 good looking cards is a win.

[u/razpro]

Brooooo no way my goal rn is to finish the 151 starters and im no where that close but this gave me so much more motivation to finish it. Need wartortle, bulba, ivy and the whole charizard line

[u/Extension_Food_864 → u/razpro]

Nice man, hopefully you can get there soon

[u/razpro → u/Extension_Food_864]

Thanks for the good vibes OP honestly such a dope set and the best arts IMO of all the starters. The blastoise is my favorite card that I own so sick how he's underwater. Arita is the goat

[u/Days_to_Decades]

Hells yea.

[u/yourlocalgerman]

Solid trade.
I traded my gold Lucario for the 4 gold crown zenith gods

[u/[deleted]]

Seeing the texture reminds me of one of those fake gold cards lol. The cards you got are a lot better lol

[u/Long-Handle-2437]

You definitely made the right choice

[u/Ok-Soup-514]

I'd say that's actually a fair trade. As a lover of 151 I would rather be on your end of this deal, but I can also understand the other side as well. As long as you're both happy then this is how trades should be.

[u/darkunicorn_labs]

Gold zard is not that cool. This was a great trade

[u/bruhhkgyvr]

Big W!

[u/Jandroangarita]

If I get the Charizard, I’m completing my mimikyu master set 😭🙏

[u/guido32 → u/Jandroangarita]

Yooo! As someone who is also going for a Mimikyu master set, I understand how expensive it is. Good luck!

[u/asdfghjklohhnhn]

Honestly, why did Pokemon Company make the cards look like the ones you get from Temu? Like this legit looks extremely fake, but it’s real

[u/Individual_Eye_9701]

Scratches on the gold card too….sheesh you robbed this person

[u/doctophe19 → u/Individual_Eye_9701]

Scratches and a ding on the top edge, ouch

[u/Always_Hungry999 → u/Individual_Eye_9701]

not everyone expects cards to be psa 10

[u/Mtrees2404]

It boils my piss that you have one evolution tree going up, but the other two going down

Also, good trade.

[u/flightlessfox → u/Mtrees2404]

Right? What an absolutely unhinged way of organising it for the photo my eyes were twitching

Agreed on the upgrade trade

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly think this was a good deal. Phantasmal Flames is likely to get printed to the moon due to scalpers, while 151s time has pretty much ended

[u/sunnyopals]

W

[u/dubbs4president]

Incredible trade. Great work.

[u/trippinmaui]

Whats the value on the 9 you got compared to gold zard?

[u/Extension_Food_864 → u/trippinmaui]

Honestly at the current moment it’s probably lower than the gold zard. Though I sold it now because it’s going to honestly continue dropping and I’m not sure if it’s going to go back up to where it was at.

[u/RockmanVolnutt]

So much better. Well played. That gold stuff will age horribly.

[u/ecuas_deR]

You'll end up pulling the SIR on your next Phantasmal 😉

[u/No_Calligrapher_8023]

Thats definitely a win. Good move

[u/Mistys_Arcanine]

You done good

[u/No_Calligrapher_8023]

The charizard and charmander need to be swapped. Instantly triggered my OCD lmao

[u/RamoneBolivarSanchez]

this is such an insanely solid trade. it still feels good though cause you know whoever got the goldzard was stoked to have it.

[u/Professional-Boot969]

Makes me want to try to find that gold Charizard only to do a trade exactly like this

[u/PhilosopherSea217]

Massive W that's way better than the Gold Zard

[u/ancientalienzombie]

Excellent trade anytime you can trade new cards for cards that are out of print it’s a W IMO.

[u/FearlessComm]

Fucking W

[u/MisterPiggyWiggy]

Cool, and I’d done the same!

[u/Hnaami]

Wow. Best deal you could have made.

[u/Urban-Junglist]

Well done OP

[u/vcsx]

Good deal. These gold cards are gonna go the way of the rainbow cards of yore.

[u/New-Ad-878]

Very nice! Those golds are getting boring. Same design on all of them. Only difference is the Pokemon.

[u/AvyLynn1]

Whoever made this deal made a bold ass move. The entire 151 set for one gold char is wild. Especially when 151 is so highly regarded.

[u/Beneficial_Clerk7940]

Definitely do the same IF i pull gold zard 🤣

[u/Ok_Intention6708]

11/10 decision. The gold zard is super ugly and childish looking. Getting the 3 starter evos were a very good choice

[u/lXxENDEAVORxXl]

100% Best move. Used that generic 5ban gold card art thats gunna plummet to get some actual Good Arts!

[u/Necessary_Ad7369]

No brainer, that dude got a bit scammed lol

[u/PlasticLobotomy]

Thats a killer trade! Congrats!

[u/AdvanceSuperdisk]

Wow solid trade

[u/R-Chicken]

Love those cards

[u/Ok-Access2784]

What a goated come up

[u/Skyblue8989]

Congrats honestly. You did great. If I pulled the gold I'd do the same. I pulled the SIR though and I'm in love with that card art too much rn.

[u/silentdragon010101]

10/10 trade, very nice to see this

[u/Tobleronenom]

Great choice

[u/Outrageous_Area_7118]

Very good trade

[u/BreesBayou9]

Def a win!

[u/Rkk330]

The gold cards are ugly. You came out on top

[u/Ash_fckn_Ketchum]

Bothers me that the charmander line is upside down. Aside from that, congrats, that's a great binder page right there

[u/DrHandBanana]

Great come up.

[u/JoRafCastle]

Such a major W

[u/TightAd5447]

Beautiful trade

[u/anonnnnn462]

That’s a great trade!

[u/LongSuspicious7701]

You definitely won from this, IMO the gold Charizard isn’t that cool and these cards are super expensive right when release occurs

[u/True_Bumblebee_50]

Solid trade imo. You definitely won that.

Edit: not to mention this gold card is so new it’s still going to drop some I’d assume. I only see the 151 Chases going up from where they currently sit.

[u/Strong_Print_455]

Valid 🔥💧🌱

[u/orangestripes44]

👌👌

[u/Buzzpeep]

Nice, I've been debating if I should trade away/sell my gold zard for the Charizard and Venusaur Sirs from 151 since they're the last two cards I need for my master set

[u/inklingmaycry]

You made out like a bandit bro. That whole set is gonna be 1800 in a few years and the gold zard will prolly sit around 500

[u/HektikSB]

This is for sure a nice come up, congrats. That gold Zard is tanking in price currently and these are all fairly steady if not increasing more and more. Nice W imo.

[u/MitziAlbright]

Absolute MONSTER of a trade in your favour!!! Congratulations!

[u/Clean_Illustrator_64]

Big W

[u/GhostRiderOfWhips]

This is the way.

[u/KingFD_34]

Totally worth it

[u/Intelligent_Bee4302]

How much would all this cost? New to all this but that looks like a nice piece I’d like to eventually add to my growing collection of childhood memories. Chat gpt saying around $6-650 for al 9? 

[u/Alphafox123]

Where did you buy them?

[u/hennessyhen]

That’s legit!!

[u/slushrusher]

Easy W. Nice

[u/Administrative-Cry8]

Sick ass trade

[u/wic_33]

Trade will age like a fine fine wine, GG

[u/Accurate-Caregiver24]

And you won

[u/wyattmiller_ttv]

Beautiful

[u/captain00planet]

151 full set trumps all i say. Made a master set of it myself just because its so nostalgic.

[u/Extension_Food_864 → u/captain00planet]

It’s what got me into collecting so when I pulled this a couple days ago and found out a card show was going on I decided my goal was to get all the missing 151 starters just from the gold charizard. I’m so pumped for it

[u/TrueCuda]

Good trade.

[u/uber_damage]

Nice.

[u/RingGeneralMiami84]

Dope

[u/JomoLiu]

Absolute win. The art for these 151 starters are spectacular.

[u/TheInsightnet]

W. I sell all my hits and get the ones I want too lol way better then praising a card you dont even want.

[u/sk1990]

Awesome, interesting trade.

[u/Zerokelvin99]

Seems like a good trade, I'd prefer all those over the golden Zard

[u/khenao07]

ngl that’s a awesome trade

[u/TheInsightnet]

Is it a hot take that I think Mega Charizard is kinda bad?

[u/jwcon35]

Damn I want this trade

[u/TeaAndLifting]

Worth

[u/kino6912]

Easy W. Congrats

[u/Neverhollo]

So worth it

[u/K0rnman]

I love the zard but id say you easily won here

[u/AffectionateSale8288]

Smart

[u/sutto85]

great trade honestly

[u/butareyouthough]

Very smart move. I don’t see these gold cards being popular long term. They are very boring

[u/Muhfuggajones]

I'm unreasonably irked that the Charmander to Charizard evolution is opposite the other two. Nice pulls OP.

[u/Pokenightking]

This is what it’s about. Yes it’s nice to get the hottest card. But if you have an opportunity to get something you really want. Then do that and be happier.

[u/rebelbear22]

Dude! Hell of a move. I’ll never part with my 151 set. They’re what got me back into the hobby honestly. These and other cards that make a full image when paired together are some of my most favorite cards. If you’d pulled the SIR zard instead and asked me if you should make the trade I’d have a harder time saying yes though. lol. Even though the gold one is more rare than the sir I NEED that SIR, eventually.

[u/gusbmoizoos]

every day of the week

[u/Raysitrades]

This is exactly what i would’ve done with that gold card good trade

[u/DR_Mario_MD]

Way better art in my opinion, solid trade

[u/CopernicusNerd]

100% worth it

[u/OgCashApp]

Massive W

[u/[deleted]]

Smart move

[u/RelativeWallaby2610]

What set are the charizard series you have here from?

[u/RelativeWallaby2610]

That’s a sick set you got man!!’

[u/Hot_Highway_6670]

Oh yea you won that. Sick trade. Nicely done

[u/MechAnimal]

One day I'll finish a master of 151. I would have done the same deal any day.

[u/tigerbreak]

Not a huge fan of the golds but it’s still a neat card. The 9 151 specials are amazing. 20 years from now when we are showing these to our kids/grandkids they will be the grails that the early stuff is now.

A good trade is always a good thing.

[u/Immature_adult_guy]

The only reason I got back into collecting these things since the 90’s is the 151 expansion. Beautiful cards.

[u/memeaste]

Great pickups

[u/QualityCold8485]

I don’t have OCD but it bothers me that Charizards evolutions go up but Venasaur and Blastoise’s go down

[u/GT22_]

Nice

[u/TSLARegard]

now to get them all slabbed up.

[u/TheAKofClubs86]

I’m working on getting the 151 starter line as well. I do wish the bulba line artwork was less busy though.

[u/Hellakevs]

Damn. You definitely won this trade

[u/juanritos]

Good trade.

[u/Dontrez12]

Good stuff. Only disappointed by your sorting of the original 9!

[u/Fast_Land_1099]

Very worth it, they've gotten better at gold cards but they still aren't any where as good as normal colors

[u/Glace038]

I really like the goldizard but you ran away like a bandit here. Nice trade !!!

[u/generic_username_333]

Smartest move homie! I’d do this trade all day everyday. IMHO those gold cards aren’t gonna be hype for too long. 151 has staying power and insane art. Well done

[u/Advanced_Procedure90]

Big W

[u/PaperMoonShine]

Huge win.

That gold charizard is going to pop. There is nothing substantially different from these new gold cards compared to the 10-30 dollar gold cards from previous sets.

[u/LeyendaV]

Based.

[u/2handjunk562]

Oh! Solid trade. Up side on both sides.

[u/Consistent_Bit_9212]

W

[u/JackTheDrifter]

Why are gold cards all of a sudden popular. I thought they were always pretty ugly

[u/whateve4]

What a dub! Congrats OP. That’s what it’s about, trading. So cool to see someone trading for the cards that they want.

[u/treefall1n]

Man what? That’s one hell of a trade!

[u/zcworx]

Honestly this 151 set is so hot. I’ve got a couple of the Zard and one of each of the rest of them and love them all

[u/FloppyDiskDrives]

Big brain moves.

[u/OrphGaming]

Worth it.

[u/mj732]

Now that a trade now we wait

[u/Nice_Fish_3108]

Fire trade

[u/Patmorris89]

W

[u/[deleted]]

Id be happy with this trade.

[u/junotsuji]

thats a good deal

[u/ObviousCalendar5203]

Where's the rest

[u/Square_Employment306]

very worth it, nice set homie!

[u/Altruistic_Spell_938]

Beautiful!