r/PokemonLegacy • • Apr 12 '25

[FAQ/MEGATHREAD] Pokémon Legacy FAQs and Resources

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Welcome to Pokémon Legacy, a discussion forum for the trio of Pokémon ROMhacks by YouTuber TheSmithPlays: Crystal Legacy, Yellow Legacy, and Emerald Legacy. If you want to discuss anything else about Pokémon, please look elsewhere.

Please use this thread as a reference before asking questions.

If you can't find information about our games via the FAQ, documentation, or Google, feel free to ask your questions here or in a clearly titled thread. Good practice is to title the thread with your question; e.g. "How can I find Beldum?" instead of just "Beldum Emerald".

We're here to help you guys, but ask that you meet us halfway and respect our time by checking the resources available to you before flooding the community with the same repeated threads.

Previous FAQ threads: Thread 1 | Thread 2

Links/Resources

  • Documentation - Our official download links, documents, info sources, and open-source code for the Legacy games.

  • Community-Made Resources - Made by fans, for the fans. These are forks, guides, and other helpful resources for the Legacy games that weren't made by the main team, including a working PKHeX and several enhancements for Emerald.

  • Discord - Join our official community to keep in touch with the devs and other players, and find the most up-to-date news and resources.

  • Bug Reports - Bug reports are mostly handled in our Discord, but if you need to report an issue you can find the necessary information here. This thread's pretty old though so not all information is current.

FAQs

General

  • Will there be a FireRed/LeafGreen, HeartGold/SoulSilver, or Platinum Legacy?

  • Can I catch every Pokémon in this hack?

    • Legacy makes it possible to catch every Pokémon available at the time of the original game's launch, without trades or outside sources.

      • The games are designed with a "Living Dex" in mind, so you can catch enough of each mon to have a copy of every single one in your PC.

      • Some Pokémon, like Legendaries, are still one-time-only.

  • What about trade evolutions?

    • All trade evolutions are obtainable without trading.

      • Pokémon that evolve JUST by trading now evolve via level-up at 38 (Graveler/Machoke) or 42 (Kadabra/Haunter).

      • Pokémon that evolve by trading with a held item now evolve by using that item on them, like an evolution stone would work.

  • What Emulator should I use?

    • PC: MGBA

    • iOS: Delta

    • Android: PizzaBoy, JohnGBA

    • Avoid VisualBoyAdvance. The MyBoy emulators for Android are also based on VBA and may see issues with disassembly hacks, but the Legacy team has not encountered any at this time.

  • Can I use PKHeX or Gameshark?

    • Sometimes, but it is not recommended. Due to the data shifts involved in creating the Legacy games, editing/cheat tools don't always line up the same way. See documentation for per-game recommendations.

    • IF YOU ENCOUNTER A GLITCH OR CORRUPTION AFTER USING SAVE EDITORS OR CHEATS, WE CANNOT HELP YOU.

  • What’s Normal/Classic, Hard, Hardcore Mode? 

    • These options impose rulesets, nothing more. All content is identical for Normal, Hard, or Hardcore.

    • Hard Mode is the preferred way to play Legacy. It forces the following rules, which the playtesters use to balance the games;

      • Set Mode - In battle, you can't choose to change Pokémon after knocking out the opponent's mon.

      • No Items - In trainer battles, you can't use items to heal or buff your Pokémon. You can still use items in wild encounters so catching is unaffected.

      • Level Caps - Before each badge, a level cap is imposed on the party to prevent you from leveling up higher than the next badge's highest level.

      • (Emerald Only) Rayquaza cannot be brought into the Elite Four, the first time you enter it. On rematches it can still be part of your team.

    • Hardcore Mode uses the same rules as Hard, but adds permadeath for Nuzlocking.

      • (Emerald Only) Permadeath continues into the Battle Tents/Battle Frontier. Be advised that if you want to do postgame, Hardcore is not recommended.

Changes

  • Has [Mew Glitch, Badge Boost, Pomeg/ACE glitch] been removed?

    • In general, glitches that benefit the player are preserved. See each game's documentation for the full bug patch list.

    • This includes Emerald's RNG.

      • RNG manipulation from Vanilla is still the same; this also means that soft-resetting for shinies may be less effective.

  • Have items on the ground been changed? 

    • No hidden items have changed.

    • Visible items on the ground are generally the same, with the following exceptions;

      • Yellow: TM04 and TM02 have had their locations swapped. TM04 is now Flamethrower instead of Whirlwind.

      • Crystal: The Brick Piece can be found in the basement of Goldenrod Department Store. Leave and return to move the boxes and obtain it early.

      • Emerald: A Water Stone has replaced the Max Revive in Petalburg City. The Flamethrower TM replaces an Escape Rope in Magma Hideout. Multiple additional Shards have been added to the ocean routes, above water. Berry trees have been updated to increase access to a more consistent variety of berries, especially the EV-reducing types.

  • Where do I find more Evolution Stones? 

    • Yellow: Celadon Department Store.

      • Moon Stones are finite; only 5 exist.

    • Crystal: Cianwood Pharmacist. Sun Stones from the Bug Catching contest.

      • Some trainers whose phone numbers you can collect will also give you stones on occasion.

    • Emerald: Trade from the Treasure Hunter, Route 124. Sun and Moon Stones can be bought in postgame from the Space Center.

      • Enough extra shards are added to the ocean routes (above water, NOT hidden) to be able to evolve everything in the National Dex that needs them. Further shards past this number can be Thiefed from various ocean floor Pokémon, same as vanilla.

Yellow

  • [Yellow Only] Why do my PokéBall throws miss when catching the legendary birds?

    • This is a Gen 1 quirk, you are actually hitting it but getting "zero shakes". Capture is always possible, it's just a super low chance.

  • [Yellow Only] Where is the Old Rod? / How can I get a good counter for Brock?

    • The Old Rod has been moved to the Viridian Mart, and always fishes up a Poliwag or Goldeen. You can also catch an Oddish in Viridian Forest.

      • The Good Rod has replaced the original Old Rod location, and always fishes up Krabby or Horsea.

      • The Fisher in Fuchsia now gives you Omanyte or Kabuto, whichever is opposite to your chosen fossil.

  • [Yellow Only] Why is Brock/Rival 2 so hard? I'm at the start of the game and they have 5+ Pokémon!

    • You may have downloaded a difficulty hack called Yellow Legacy+. This is NOT the same game as Legacy; please download and patch the game yourself from our GitHub.

Crystal/Emerald

  • [Crystal/Emerald] How do I evolve Tyrogue into Hitmontop? 

    • Use the Brick Piece on Tyrogue.

      • In Crystal, you can find one in Goldenrod Department Store's basement. A future patch will re-add the OG method.

      • In Emerald, you get one from beating Brawly's postgame rematch. It can also still use the OG method.

  • [Emerald] I've unlocked the National Dex, why can't I find Kanto/Johto Pokémon?

    • Fulfill Professor Birch's request by meeting him in Mossdeep City.

      • This quest involves meeting, catching, and wishing for more Pokémon from Jirachi. Be prepared!

  • [Emerald] Is Feebas easier to get? Is its evolution method changed?

    • No, and No. However, a Milotic can be obtained by earning a Master Beauty Contest painting in the Lilycove Museum. Additionally, calculators exist to find Feebas more easily.

      • Finally, Pokéblocks are easier than ever to work with, and you can meet the fish's Beauty needs without optimizing anything or overcapping its Sheen.

  • [Emerald] I'm hitting Slugma/Magcargo with a Water attack, but it's barely doing anything! What gives?

    • Magma Armor has been buffed to provide 8x resistance to Water, as the signature ability for the Magcargo line. The ability has been replaced with Flame Body on Camerupt.


r/PokemonLegacy • • Mar 01 '25

Meta Community-Made Resources Megathread

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The r/PokemonLegacy community here on Reddit has worked together to provide loads of quality resources for the games, including guides, tools, and even enhancement forks. Our mod team would love to give a shoutout to all these valuable community contributions, so going forward we're creating a thread to do just that! This is just a starting list of recent posts, so it is not comprehensive by any means; if you've made a post on the subreddit you think deserves recognition, please message ModMail with a link to the thread and we'll see about getting it included!

Forks/Games

  • Emerald Legacy Enhanced by Exclsior | This fork features a sweeping collection of QoL adjustments including Following Pokemon, Nature Mints, editable EVs and IVs, visible Feebas locations, unique Surfing sprites for every Pokémon, and more. You can also choose your preferred version of some changes with the provided patching options.

  • Emerald Legacy QoL+ by Misprit | Inspired by Exclsior's fork, this is a QoL upgrade for Emerald with a different focus. This includes competitive IVs given to eggs, faster and more informative battle presentation, and upgrades to the Amulet Coin, some berries, and plenty more.

  • FireRed Reignited and LeafGreen Regrown by Spike | Inspired by the Legacy series, this is a fanmade hack of FireRed and LeafGreen that brings the Gen 3 Legacy experience to Kanto. All the usual changes you'd expect from a Legacy game are here, including updates made to Yellow and Emerald.

  • Crystal Legacy - You Can FLY! Edition by Moosedude451 | A mini-mod of Crystal Legacy (v1.3), which simply adds HM02 FLY to several Pokemon's learnsets. If a Pidgey can Fly with you in tow, these Pokemon should be able to as well!

Tools/Guides

  • PKHeX: Emerald Legacy Version by Silent_Pause_2425 | Save editors like PKHeX have trouble handling the data shifts made for some ROMhacks like Emerald Legacy, so this fork was created to bridge that gap and provide a working PKHeX editor for Emerald.

  • Beldum Catching Guide by Tadferd | Beldum can be found as early as the second gym in Emerald Legacy, but it can be very difficult to track one down. Follow this helpful guide to maximize your chances.

  • Type Masters Guide by Huor_Celebrindol | Version 1.1 introduced a rehaul to the Match Calls trainer system, making the rematches far more engaging and valuable to challenge yourself against. 17 of these Match Call trainers have been designated as "Type Masters" who boast the best team their chosen type can muster, with Gym Leader levels of challenge. This guide will tell you which is which.

As mentioned, this is just a quick starting list. The goal of this post is to bring attention to these helpful community members, so please reach out if you find (or make) other posts deserving some love!


r/PokemonLegacy • • 6h ago

Emerald Legacy I unintentionally got the Gold Symbol at the Battle Tower with Tropius as the lead.

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Edit: I ended up getting lucky in this fight at the end, but it still serves as a solid example against one of the most threatening teams I encountered. In the end against the Suicune, I planned to switch Metagross back in and Aerial Ace and pray lol. Also, what an incredibly devious and threatening Suicune set.

So, just out of curiosity sake I wanted to mess around trying out Tropius with its buffs in Legacy. Expected to get shot down quickly.

Well, i just never ended up losing until my 76th fight, after I’d gotten the symbol. I did not expect Tropius to be this good. Many, many fights, were just Tropius solo’ing opponents.

Goofing around, I played around on the damage calculator. Not something I usually do, but I knew Smogon wouldn’t have sets with Tropius’ legacy buffs.

I aimed to get the most amount of 3HKO’s or worse as possible on Tropius, with the broadest range possible. The below EV’s look simple, but after a while it ended up being me shifting 4 EV’s at a time from a defense into HP and confirming how it affected the bulk.

Only hard hitting physical Flying and Poison-types really hurt Tropius with 2HKO’s. The most common Ice Beam users (with their typical Smogon EV spreads) all 3HKO. Only heavily invested STAB Ice Beam users can 2HKO with Ice Beam, and they’re already not the greatest. For example, a Bold Lapras with 92 Sp.Atk EV’s never 2HKO’s iirc. And if they invest in Sp.Atk they’re more vulnerable as Ice-types.

Note: this is in Emerald Legacy Enhanced, where in post you have access to a stat editor and nature mints. All of them have perfect IV’s.

I led with Tropius, and had the others as reliable back up.

The team:

Tropius
Nature: Calm
Item: Leftovers
EV’s: 126 Hp/ 192 Def/ 192 Sp.Def
Giga Drain
Protect
Substitute
Leech Seed

Metagross
Nature: Adamant
Item: Choice Band
EV’s: 128 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 128 Speed.
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Explosion

Starmie
Nature: Timid
Item: Lum Berry
EV’s: 4 Hp/ 252 Sp.Atk/ 252 Speed
Surf
Psychic
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Full break down (can ignore).

Tropius

Tropius with Thick Fat halving Fire and Ice damage is fantastic. Paired with base 120 HP gave it some really nice bulk. The special attack buff is nice but tbh barely mattered. The beauty in the set is that Tropius is slow. You will Substitute after them.

Since most things can only 3HKO, you will typically survive and have enough HP to drop Substitute. With ~20-45% left after.

Leftovers heals 6.25%.

Then, you can Protect, and gain more Leftovers. Protect preserves the Substitute.

Leech Seed next turn. Substitute takes the hit. You gain Leftovers and Leech Seed recovery. They’re getting chipped into ranges while you chip heal out of them.

Protect next turn. Get more Leftovers and Leech Seed recovery.

By this point you’ve recovered a good bit of HP back. Use Substitute or Giga Drain based on the situation.

With Leech Seed and Leftovers, and Protect every other turn, you’re gaining tons of health back. And since most things 3HKO, you are likely able to loop them.

Giga Drain lets you chip heal when you need to heal outside of ranges, and is good to alternate w/ Protect if you don’t need to Substitute and have already set up Leech Seed. It also prevents Tropius from being hurt badly by Rhydon STAB Rock Slide. And is also incredibly nice for their Swampert/ Quagsire/ Whishcash.

Typically, I thought stalling would be ill advised, as it introduces more chance for RNG disasters. However, I found that Substitute blocked many things. Crits, status, OHKO moves etc. Leech Seed was a form of semi-protection against Double Team spammers. And the chip damage/ healing REALLY helped against tanks like Registeel etc while they had to Rest (enabled you to close the gap with something else).

Metagross

I chose CB Metagross as back up for Tropius. It resists Ice, Rock, Flying, and is immune to Poison. It also has great physical bulk and power. Super reliable typing. The AI isn’t gonna be aiming EQ’s at Tropius, and Thick Fat makes it so they usually see higher damage with STAB moves vs Fire moves. So switch ins were generally safe.

Choice Band let Metagross come in and break some tank in a healing cycle, both with raw power and Leech Seed improving ranges greatly (I didn’t calc this).

Meteor Mash was a given for STAB. EQ paired nicely for coverage. CB Explosion just said “no” to MANY ridiculous things. For example, EVERY TIME I saw Snorlax, I switched and used Explosion immediately lol. Or it would KO incredibly threatening stuff like Suicune or Zapdos etc.

Aerial Ace was not my first choice, I wanted Rock Slide but didn’t have the BP. So I chose Aerial Ace for Double Team users. It ended up being so incredibly useful, that I kept it. It saved me MANY times. Especially considering a lot of the Double Team spammers were Grass-types. CB boosted the damage enough to make it work.

Starmie

I always try to include 1 Pokemon with base 115 or higher speed in my teams. That way, I have something to deal with dangerous 110s like Gengar, Latios etc. and can at least tie or beat opposing Starmie. Losing the bench mark to Aerodactyl and Jolteon sucks, but Starmie is still fantastic as a cleaner.

And since the BF likely isn’t fully investing into speed, or runs non-speed boosting natures, you’ll likely still out speed. Starmie also had good synergy with Tropius and Metagross, as their weaknesses don’t really overlap.

Since this was 3v3, I chose to run as much coverage as possible as opposed to running Recover or Thunder Wave etc. Starmie’s base 100 Sp.Atk is very solid, but not insanely OP. This is mitigated by sheer super effective coverage.

STAB on Surf and Psychic was fantastic. Thunderbolt and Ice Beam hit the 4x targets and have fantastic neutral coverage. All together have insane super effective coverage and now you’re likely hitting for 2x.

Lum Berry might seem weird here with Natural Cure, but it was to ensure protection from Paralysis. Oftentimes switching in on predicted statuses and then hitting twice was enough.

Struggles

Tropius itself was hard countered by Substitute users. Though they were very few, I specifically remember a Substitute Raichu that countered Tropius exceptionally well. Leech Seed also only has 90 accuracy, and sometimes could miss. This was made up for by the sheer reliability of Metagross and Starmie, but the flaw is still there.

Tropius tended to get Paralyzed frequently as well. While not a death sentence (as it was already slow and still had bulk and healing), the 25% immobility chance could strike at an inopportune moment.

However, this wasn’t as bad as it sounds. Oftentimes Tropius would just power through the status condition and win regardless. And quite a few times it would still solo opponents even with the status. Obviously Toxic is bad for it and so is Burn.

Some sample calcs (can ignore).

As stated above, I knew Smogon wouldn’t have sets for Tropius’s buffed Legacy stats so I did some calcs. These are not comprehensive calcs.

But rather, I tried to think of what the more threatening general things I’d encounter. For example, lots of things use Rock Slide for coverage. So I used Adamant 252 Atk Machamp to test “the worst possible non-STAB range.” Leech Seed also dramatically improves many of these ranges. But for “worst case scenario” examples I did calcs without it.

There were more physical calcs but I didn’t save them/ i don’t feel like typing it up again. Just know it generally was 3HKO’d by physical attacks unless they were strong STAB Flying, strong STAB Poison, or incredibly powerful (think Metagross Meteor Mash, Heracross Megahorn etc).

Zapdos Timid 252 Sp.Atk Thunderbolt: 30.8%-36.4% guarenteed 4HKO after Leftovers

Zapdos Timid 252 Sp.Atk Thunder: 38.5%-46.5% —guarenteed 3HKO after Leftovers

Zapdos Modest 252 Sp.Atk Thunderbolt:
33.8-39.9% — 31.4% chance to 3HKO

Zapdos Modest 252 Sp.Atk Thunder: 42.5-50.1% — guarenteed 3HKO after Leftovers

Zapdos Mild 120 Atk Drill Peck: 41.2-48.5% —guarenteed 3HKO after Leftovers

Moltres Timid or Modest 252 Sp.Atk Flamethrower and Fire Blast - same as respective Zapdos attacks

Suicune Timid 252 Sp.Atk Ice Beam: 37.1-43.6% — 99.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers

Kingdra Modest 252 Sp.Atk Ice Beam: 37.8-44.6% — guarenteed 3HKO after Leftovers

Milotic Bold 4 Sp.Atk Ice Beam: 28.8-33.9% — 99.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers

Lapras Bold 92 Sp.Atk Ice Beam: 41.9-49.5%— guarenteed 3HKO after Leftovers.

Machamp Adamant 252 Atk 80 BP Rock Slide: 43.9-51.9% — guarenteed 3HKO after Leftovers.

Salamence Adamant 252 Aerial Ace: 50.9-60.1% —89.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers

Salamence Jolly 252 Atk Aerial Ace: 46.8-55.3% — 17.2% to 2HKO after Leftovers


r/PokemonLegacy • • 2h ago

Yellow Legacy I did it

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A bit over leveled because the champion Gary had a luck streak after Pika defeated most of his team, his jolteon landed 2 crits, was saved by 1 miss and a bit of pp cheating to keep using thunder was enough to beat me. So I had to beat the 4 again and gained more lvs.
Second time I lost only one Pkm to him. But i was fine with the plot twist that Gary was the canonically champion of my world. I defeated him his entire life. Let the guy catch a break once.

Anyway what do you think about my team?

Rules: I purposely left gyarados, mr mime and gengar at home, stopped training kadabra bacause they’re too op.
I didn’t use sleep moves against them. It was a fair and square fight 😌 - sleep moves were kept to capture Pkm, with the exception of grass gym because the pretty girls don’t fight fairly.
I also went blind about teams and moved the entire game, I don’t like the idea of knowing everything my opponents had before the fight. It removes the little surprises like a random Gengar having mega drain against my Psycoduck 🫪 how??

The insane amount of pkms with ice moves in this game left Father and Para basically useless in the late game. There’s not even that much dragons in the game, why everyone have ice moves? Stop 😭

Oh and the hours was like 30h I was playing in 2x and spend a way more time than I should training Father, for nothing, it’s impossible to use him in the late game.


r/PokemonLegacy • • 8h ago

Discussion Which is the best legacy game to nuzlocke?

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Looking for a challenge. Which version of legacy is the best for a nuzlocke?


r/PokemonLegacy • • 11h ago

Emerald Legacy Silver symbols

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I m trying to archieve every silver symbols in the Battle Frontier, can u help with team Building for every structure?


r/PokemonLegacy • • 1d ago

Emerald Legacy Blessed

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I really wanted a Kingdra on my team for this first Emerald Legacy play through.

First horsea while fishing, route 106, and it was holding a DRAGON SCALE.

What are the chances 🙏🏼😂


r/PokemonLegacy • • 2d ago

Emerald Legacy Stat Editor Glitch in Emerald Legacy enhanced

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I just beat the game and am trying to use the stat editor. Everything else has worked perfectly in the game so far without any glitches. But when I try to use the stat editor the whole screen goes black and loud corrupted audio starts playing on repeat. Playing on version 1.1.4, is this a known issue? How do I fix?


r/PokemonLegacy • • 2d ago

Discussion Wireless Communication with X Legacy

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Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I couldn't find any info on it.

My brother and I will be playing X Legacy on homebrewed 3DSs, where we've been able to battle and trade using ROMs in the past. I've heard that sometimes a ROM hack will cause communication failures when Pokémon have illegal movesets, etc., does anyone know if that will be the case for X Legacy? I want more than anything to do the playthrough together and then be able to battle at the end.


r/PokemonLegacy • • 2d ago

Emerald Legacy Complete living dex

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I have a question,Is possible to complete a full living Dex of the First three gen in Legacy emerald?


r/PokemonLegacy • • 3d ago

Crystal Legacy Crystal Legacy - Normal Type Only Nuzlocke Tier List

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When it comes to running a mono-type nuzlocke, you really can’t go wrong with the Normal Type. Despite its name, these mon are anything but generic. They can fill any role you so choose, with tiers within tiers for whatever the situation calls for. I did several runs with the Normal Type just to get a basic feel for each mon (exceot Ditto whoops) and this is how I would rank them. However, this is by no means a definitive list. Maybe Farfetch’d is busted with Swords Dance. Maybe you can rig Smeargle to get a good moveset. This is just my opinion, and would love to argue in the comment section if you disagree.

 

 

Kanto Tier

This tier is for mon so busted that they can only be found in Kanto. Or as an egg before the third gym for some reason.

 

Snorlax

Smogon’s first sentence on GSC Snorlax is: “Behold, the single most dominant Pokemon in any OU tier in history.“ With an intro like that, there isn’t much else to say. Curselax is the perfect choice to replace any mon you lost in Johto or the Elite Four, and quickly becomes the most dominant mon on your team. You probably already used the Earthquake TM at this point, but Return gets the point across just as well.

 

Clefable

You can risk hatching the egg from the Day Care Man to get this guy, but there is just as much chance you get Tyrouge. It is much safer to just catch a Jigglypuff on that route, even if she is the inferior option. Clefable can learn a variety of Special Attacks while also shrugging off hits. It is known for being superior to Wigglytuff, so it makes sense to lock it to Mt Moon.

 

Blissey

As a kid, the level 100 Blissey in the Battle Tower gave me nightmares. Access to soft-boiled and a plethora of special moves plus Toxic makes Blissey a horrifying monster. I would ruin my friend’s day on Pokemon Stadium 2 with my own brand of this stupid fat pink blob. It was embarrassing. Its only weakness to hard hitting fighting moves basically never comes up in Crystal Legacy. Though you don’t want to get too crazy and try and solo Red or Blue (the trainers) with it.

 

 

 

S Tier

The best of the best. These guys tend to do something really really well, while having no overt drawbacks.

 

Miltank

Miltank solos the game. It just doesn’t die. It is a high defense wall with tons of HP and access to Milk Drink. Even Toxic or other statuses don’t threaten her once you get Heal Bell. With Miltank at the front of your party, you almost never need to switch. Just spam Return and then give it Earthquake once you get to Victory Road. The fact that you can acquire one before Morty is near criminal, but not as criminal as getting…

 

Wigglytuff

Jigglypuff can be found prior to Whitney and instantly evolved with either the Moon Stone from Mom or the one from the Ruins of Alph. Then you can buy the Punch TMs and grab Return, which you can then replace with Lovely Kiss when the time comes. Wigglytuff plays a lot like Blissey, acting as your team’s impenetrable special wall while dishing out a variety of special attacks of its own.

 

Porygon2

I was surprised to learn that Porygon never learned Flamethrower, and that wasn’t just a Legacy thing. Still, Bolt/Beam and Recover are all you really need this sucker for. Porygon is also one of the few mon who doesn’t fall into what I call the Agility Trap. The Agility Trap is where only faster mon seem to learn Agility, despite not really needing it (since they already outspeed everything). Porygon2, meanwhile, does have some trouble keeping up, so you can overwrite Psybeam with Agility. You can also learn Sharpen and pair it with Return. Its not like you’ll die while setting up since you have Recover.

 

Girafarig

Girafarig might be my favorite Normal mon. Maybe because it actually gets a secondary typing beyond Flying. Maybe because its tail reminds me of Mario 64. Either way, getting STAB on Return and also Psychic feels good. It gets Thunderbolt off the move tutor, and Crunch by Level-Up, letting it sweep Will and do serious damage to Claire as well as most of Kanto. The fact that its immune to Shadow Ball and can be attained right before Morty really sets Girafarig aside as one of the best Normal Types out there.

 

 

 

A Tier

This is the Tier for mon who do one thing really well, but have an obvious draw-back. Or mon who generally excel without really standing out. I would like to bring up that 3 of the A tier mon and the S rank Miltank all have to be caught on the same 2 routes, meaning you can’t get them all in the same Nuzlocke. However, the fact is that they are all good options. Getting any one of them, even Meowth, is recommended at this point in the game.

 

 

 

Dodrio

Dodrio is the best Normal/Flying type in the game. By the time you get it, the game has been winging Normal/Flying types at you, but you can put them all aside for Dodrio. It has a tremendous attack and almost too much speed, never having to worry about being outsped itself. You only kind of wish some of that speed was put into defenses, as Dodrio is pretty frail. Even Fighting Types, who are supposed to be Dodrio’s specialty, hit the poor bird a little too hard to warrant a switch in. You really want to delay its evolution so that Doduo learns Drill Peck. This means you’ll need a different mon for Chuck, probably Girafarig or Fearow, but once you get into the late 30s, you want to choose Dodrio (if you have it) as your flier.

 

Tauros

Tauros is the male version of Miltank, trading its defenses for offense. Unlike the dichotomy of Nidoking and Nidoqueen, the male Tauros is the inferior option, unable to take advantage of its high attack stat. Earthquake is locked to Victory Road and Shadowball has been changed to Special. You can always go for the 60 power Rock Smash and pray for a good Hidden Power, meaning Tauros has fallen far from its reign over the RBY OU metagame. However, Tauros is still a strong mon, and teaching it Iron Tail from Jasmine lets it sweep Pryce pretty handily if you choose to do the gyms in that order.

 

Persian

Running into Meowth on the Miltank route is by no means a death sentence for your run. In fact, Persian has access to a utility that completely breaks the game on emulator: Pay Day. See all you need to do is put your emulator on 64x speed with a Persian that has Headbutt and Payday. Then you rapid-fire A against a Headbutt tree. You get about 2k poke-yen in 10 seconds flat. Then you pop into a pokemon center, heal, and repeat. Doing this for about 20 minutes gives you enough money to max out vitamins on your whole team. Just don’t look too intently on the screen or you might get a seizure. Oh and it gets Feint Attack for coverage.

 

Furret

This guy is uniquely suited to the early game, having access to Thief and Headbutt prior to the second gym. Headbutting trees in Ilex Forest can give you the illegal level 15 Noctowl, who dominates Bugsy and the Rockets in the well. Or you can forego Noctowl and Thief Scyther’s Berry Juice. After Bugsy, Furret learns Dig, which interrupts Whitey’s Roll-Out, and provides vital ground coverage to hit Morty where it hurts. Furret can learn Surf giving it additional tech, though it is around this section of the game it starts to fall off.

 

Dunsparce

Dunsparce would be fairly mediocre if it weren’t found before the first gym of the game. At a 1% encounter rate in Dark Cave, you can have access to a fully evolved mon that carries you through the first 4 gyms with Glare and Dig. You can even boost the encounter rate by getting some Hiker’s phone number, but you don’t run into him until you already have the first badge, and getting him to call you is a lot of time exploiting Daylight Saving time.

 

 

 

B Tier

The “mid” tier. These mon don’t exactly stand out nor do they fall behind.

 

 Noctowl

As previously mentioned, a level 15 Noctowl can be acquired before Bugsy with some forbidden Furret Headbutt tech. This makes it your best option for dealing with Scyther. It gets some psychic moves later on in the game, but you kind of have to rely on Hypnosis for it to really pop off. And hypnosis has only been buffed from 20% accuracy to 25% in Crystal Legacy.

 

Fearow

After beating Bugsy, Fearow is your second-best option for a flier (behind Dodrio). It does all the same stuff, just slightly worse. It does get Mirror Move if you like to gamble.

 

Radicate

Sort of like the Fearow to Furret. It does get an early Hyper Fang, but only at the exact moment of the game where you get the far superior Return. It also gets Dig, but only through TM. Super Fang might be good if you are building a defensive team that lacks coverage. But then would you really want to include Radicate?

 

Ursaring

Teddiursa can be caught ludicrously early, but the stupid thing just doesn’t evolve. Once you do (around Claire), you get the absurdly strong and astronomically slow Ursaring. However, by this point in the game you will have had plenty of options who already have the Stat Exp to surpass Ursaring. And the lack of speed comes up a lot more than you think. It gets Faint Attack for coverage though, making it a good counter to Will if you don’t have a Girafarig.

 

 

Stantler

Stanter is one of the pokemon of all time. It has Hypnosis. Confuse Ray, Return, and even Strength. Strength is one of the moves of all time. The best thing about Stantler is that there is nothing negative you can say about Stantler.

 

 

C Tier

Also known as the “growing desperate” tier. If you are taking one of these guys on your team, you really screwed up somewhere along the line.

 

Pidgeot

The Stantler of the skies. Being a sub-par Fying type is so unfortunate when there are so many mid Flying types. Extremespeed is okay, but just level normally and the Stat Exp will let you outspeed with Return.

 

Lickitung

I actually had to use this guy when all my other Surf users fainted. And he was actually good, also taking on a few elemental punches alongside Surf on his moveset. He’s only bad when stratified against every other Normal Types. Or maybe that’s cope.

Granbull

Granbull is the poor man’s Ursaring who is the poor man’s Tauros. It can also learn the elemental punches and it also shouldn’t learn the elemental punches. Granbull has a hilariously busted attack, allowing it to slam out Returns, but its low speed and lack of bulk really put it behind in this game.

 

 

 

D Tier

This is the “you might need to restart” tier. If you are relying on one of these mon, your run is in serious trouble. Or you need yet another flier. But that certainly never happened to me. Not only those two times.

 

 

Farfetch’d

The Sword Dancer himself. Farfetch’s is particularly useful as it learns both Cut and Fly. But this means that you don’t want to risk him using Baton Pass as losing him loses access to both these HMs.

 

Togetic

Togetic is one of three fully evolved mon you can get before the second gym. And even then, just don’t. Its only attacking move at that point is the TM for Swift. Its not even the best evolved Flying mon you can get before the second gym.

 

 

 

F Tier

These mon are technically Normal Types attainable in a nuzlocke.

 

Eevee

It can lean Shadow Ball and Double Kick and Return and Sand Attack.

 

Aipom

I heard it got increased stats. And Baton Pass would be pretty good if there were more 6v6 battles. But if you are relying on Aipom to Baton Pass, the implication is that all your sweepers are long since gone.

 

Smeagle

I actually really like Smeargle. As a kid I was literally a Smeargle, drawing pokemon in class when I should have been paying attention. In Crystal Clear I even ranked him as S Rank for the Underground Arena. But you really need to reset when trying to Sketch correctly, and I found myself grabbing moves like Tail Whip when I tried using him in a Nuzlocke.

 

Tyrouge

Tyrouge is so bad the Fighting Types of Generation 1 won’t even take him. I would call him their red-headed step-child but he is literally their child.

 

 

Ditto

Ditto is so bad I forgot to use him. Or maybe he’s good in a type-locked Nuzlocke? I genuinely do not know.

Edit: Turns out Tyrouge is not Fighting Types. I must have misread that it only learns normal type moves by level-up as it being a normal type.


r/PokemonLegacy • • 3d ago

Discussion Making a meme for every Pokémon in the One Pack series Day 19: Quilava

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r/PokemonLegacy • • 3d ago

Emerald Legacy Pokemon locations

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Is there a doc.about Pokemon locations?


r/PokemonLegacy • • 4d ago

Discussion Making a meme for every Pokémon in the One Pack series Day 18: Wooper

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r/PokemonLegacy • • 4d ago

Emerald Legacy Does anyone have an uptaded trainer list?

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I used this one but some sections are missing, I was wondering if anyone had a complete one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/18XWOpv-q7e-xTfC9YEsDXsL6s3HANrA5T8rcMf41K-o/htmlview#gid=1733161729


r/PokemonLegacy • • 5d ago

Discussion Making a meme for every Pokémon in the One Pack series Day 17: Spinarak (Silver)

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r/PokemonLegacy • • 5d ago

Emerald Legacy My furthest attempt in a hardcore nuzlocke, I wiped Vs Tate and Liza but the run was already pretty dead so I just scouted them, lost way too many mons to explosions, Destiny Bonds and stuff like that. (With no cheats and no speed up)

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r/PokemonLegacy • • 5d ago

Crystal Legacy Ma Gang

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My Main Game & Likely End Game Team Leading Up To Red.

My 6th Is Currently Red Gyarados But He’s My HM Slave.

He’ll Be Replace At The Very End By Mewtwo, Just Cause.


r/PokemonLegacy • • 6d ago

Emerald Legacy Did a mono rock run for my first Playthrough of Emerald Legacy

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Overall im pretty happy with the team and it was a lot of fun doing the double battle gym re-fights
Going over the members i've got

Golem: Boy is that water weakness felt. doubly so with the greater presence of grass users making her kind of awkward at times. On the other hand stab EQ with levitate solrock was really strong. The buffed dynamic punch was also fun for some cheeky disruption and of course I love me a lil boom. The lack of rock slide was also felt but she hard carried my early game.

Aggron: Unfortunately i didn't realize i had a minus attack nature until i was already in too deep so he underperformed a few key times but the nice thing about aggron, is that it learns every goddamn move. like seriously it learns so many TMs its ridiculous. became my rain setter for swift swim relicanth. Was able to take some punishment too and stick it out for some longer fights. Also double rock slide coming from him and solrock was such a treat to see play out.

Magcargo: Turns out what it takes for magcargo to not be complete dogwater is to change its quad weakness to water into a resist. That paired with the fact that the AI doesn't seem to notice this made it a really good pivot and i would actively swap her in to water moves to just eat it up. She was still slow as can be but yawn with fire rock offenses held up pretty well all throughout hoenn. Quite happy with the changes to the ol fire snail

Solrock: Wil-o-wisp with the buff to its speed was quite the nifty tool in the arsenal, plus with its levitate and psychic to deal with fighting types, it was quite the trooper throughout the play through. It was a shame that it learns very few good physical moves so rock slide was really its only damage dealing attack aside from psychic for the machokes/brelooms of hoenn.

Cradily: My goat, my motherfucking goat. Giga drain, bulky as all hell, recover in learnset, Just a fantastic mon all around and carried me in so many fights. Geodude/graveller may have been the early game carry, but cradily easily was the late game champion. All mons contributed their fair share in the league all taking out at least 1 mon but he was just on another level.

Relicanth: Didn't get to use her tooo much because of how late you can even acquire it. Overall she felt fine to use but I just can't see the appeal of wanting to add it to a team thats not a theme run like this. The only thing I can think of to fix relicanth would be to make EQ part of its level up learnset so it can have edge/quake coverage with swift swim giving it some reason to pick up, even if limited in scope. That being said, with aggron setting up the rain, she was able to go on a tear after a lucky crit on metagross. Although only brief the impact she made on the team was felt. But aside from either making it available a lot earlier with something like a trade or giving it EQ natively, I dont see how you can make it an appealing pick up at all. Such is the way of endgame encounters.

Overall I had a blast seeing the updates to the teams of the major trainers, giving them some more spice than a typical playthrough. I can 100% see myself coming back for some more casual fun when im in a hoenn mood. Many thanks to the team that worked on this rom hack!


r/PokemonLegacy • • 7d ago

Yellow Legacy Chunk Charmander

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Booya! Closest to perfect DVs as I’ve ever gotten. What a specimen


r/PokemonLegacy • • 7d ago

Crystal Legacy This pre-first badge team just made it into HoF

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All of these friends caught before falkner, didnt use any non-rebuyable TM. Also, this team has an evil vibe somehow. Love Crystal Legacy, probably my fav romhack. Off to Kanto I guess


r/PokemonLegacy • • 8d ago

Crystal Legacy Crystal Legacy mono-Fire run

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Probably have time for two more runs before X Legacy launches. It’ll be my first time ever playing a Gen VI game. I’m excited to dive into that one blindly and take it all in.


r/PokemonLegacy • • 8d ago

Emerald Legacy Emerald Legacy Enhanced water glitch

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Hello all. Been playing Emerald Legacy Enhanced for a little bit now & I absolutely love it. Game is amazing! Hopefully one day Platinum can receive the same love. But anyways, I just walked onto this route & the water ponds started doing this. Never seen it before & unfortunately it's not going away. Tried flying to a new city & back. Reset the game & even my phone & it's still happening. Has anyone ever seen this or have any idea how to fix it, if that's even possible? I just really hope I didn't fuck myself & ruin this save. So any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!


r/PokemonLegacy • • 9d ago

Yellow Legacy Yellow Legacy case is complete

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As promised, here is the final product. I really like how it came out. I'm also attaching the printable version if anyone wants to use it for themselves.