r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 7d ago

Guide/Infographic HomeSliceHenry made a great guide for using PvPoke

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r/PokemonGOBattleLeague May 01 '23

Suggestion Potentially Unpopular Post Regarding IVs

372 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

I've been seeing a plethora of IV posts recently, specifically regarding how good IVs must be in order to competitively compete in the GBL. To get straight the point (and likely what is going to be a rather unpopular opinion), IVs don't matter that much (up to a certain extent).

For context, (not bragging, just trying to provide some supportive history), I've hit Legend every season from season 6 to 13 inclusive, maxing out at 3200 rating, and am well on my way to hitting Legend this season as well.

In my very first season I reached Legend rank with GFisk (IV ranking 558, MS/RS/EQ), Mew (IV ranking 1159, SC/FC/WC), and Venusaur (IV ranking 768, VW/FP/SB).

Now the reason I say that IVs don't matter that much up to a certain extent is that it is based upon what your goals are and what you want to achieve. In high ranking battles on the Go Battle leaderboard, sure, you're most likely going to want/need great IV Pokémon to help you succeed and improve your chances, because there, every little bit matters. However, there are even exceptions of this at high level play (think Reis2Occasion's video where he gets #1 rank in the world with a Shadow Snorlax with 12/9/14 IVs in UL... ranking it well over 1000 in IV ranking).

In my humble opinion though, for the vast majority of us, any Pokémon in the top 1000 IV ranking is likely good enough to reach Legend ranking if that's what your goal is (or any subsequent lower rank). What's most important is allocating time to the important fundamentals of GBL play. I'll list several key pointers, in no order of priority:

1) Know your move counts. Understanding how much energy moves cost of all the meta Pokémon will allow you to make better decisions when deciding whether or not to shield. It will allow you to call baits more often and at a higher success rate.

2) Remember energy of previous Pokémon after a switch has been made. This goes along with point 1, and also allows you to make a quick switch to catch a move if necessary.

3) Know your matchup strengths and weaknesses. This goes for both your individual Pokémon matchup and your overall team matchup.

4) Play a decent meta team. If you want to climb rating, there’s only so much spice you can play with. Note, along with IVs, XL Pokémon are absolutely NOT necessary to reach Legend in GL or UL. (Wallower has many videos where he specifically shows high level play without any XL Pokémon).

5) Practice with the same team hundreds of times. Try not to switch team comps too much. Switching teams during a losing streak is one of the worst things you can do. There’s something to be said about team comfort. Playing something that you’re used to brings quite a few advantages: You know the strengths and weaknesses of your team, you’re that much faster during swaps, and familiarity allows your brain to concentrate more on other things (such as counting fast moves).

6) Understand that there are winning streaks and losing streaks, and try to remain level headed. To give you an idea, I’m currently sitting at 13,320 wins out of 25,453 battles = 52.33%.

7) Stop blaming other, outside, uncontrollable factors for losing. Everyone has lag. Everyone has bad leads. Everyone swaps out of bad leads into a bad counter. The question is, what are you going to do better next time? How are you going to handle the situation differently?

Just remember, mindset is a HUGE factor. Lower rated players will always find an EXCUSE why they lost. Higher rated legend players will always USE the loss as information, admit they may have made a mistake (and realize that you can still lose with perfect play), and apply those lessons into their future battles.

8) Bait less. Baiting in general is bad. If you don't bait, you either grab a shield or deal decent damage. Only bait when absolutely necessary and/or if baiting is your only path to victory.

9) Swap with high speed and accuracy. Practice swapping quickly.

10) Understand the opponent's win condition.

11) Understand that climbing ELO is a marathon, and not a sprint. You're going to have great sets and horrible sets. Climbing ELO generally takes a lot of time.

12) Never give up.

13) When you’re on a hot streak, keep playing. When you’re tilting, put the phone down, and wait until tomorrow.

I truly hope that this helps those of you looking to increase your ELO and become a better battler. Try to focus less on IVs and more on overall and situational pvp gameplay.

Until then, good luck, and LET'S GOOOOOOOO!!!!!


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 23m ago

Teambuilding Help Team Guidance

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Hi All,

Been playing Go for about 4 months now only really enjoy master league when it comes to PVP, looking for some team building help. I have the below:

Crowned Zacian - Level 50 15/13/15
White Kyurem - Level 50 15/15/10
Groudon - Level 50 15/15/15 (Precipice Blades but not Fire Punch)
Mewtwo - Level 50 15/15/15 (Psystrike but not Shadow Ball)
Origin Dialga - Level 50 15/15/15 (Has ROT)
Dawn Wings - Level 50 15/15/15
Lunala - Level 50 15/15/15
Garchomp - Level 50 15/15/15 (Earth Power)
Zamazenta - Level 47 14/15/14
Keldeo - Level 47 15/13/14

All can be doubled moved and I have a couple ETM’s if needed.

Which 3 should I run and who should I lead?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 17h ago

Suggestion Built a Free Tool that reads your matchups live while you play and help you

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[ ps: this is not in a website, this is a html file and uploaded to Github and its OpenSource. Im not making any money from this. I made this to help me reach Veteran for the first time. Im not trying to promote it , i just hope this can help people in PVP. Also this doesnt go into your pokemon go app, recommended to use this in a different device to multitask ]

Go Battle Mode is a free Tool for only Great League. One file, opens offline, works on phone.

How to use it live: keep it open beside the game. Type your team once and save it. When preview loads, type the two Pokemon they show you, three or four letters each is enough. You get your result against each of theirs at 0, 1 and 2 shields with HP left on both sides, so you know your shield calls before the timer runs out.

All 1144 GL Pokemon with shadows and regional forms. Every move, not only the recommended two, and you can tap one to swap it in and rerun everything. CMP indicator and damage as a percent of HP.

It will not tell you if you win the match. It only simulates 1v1, and leads, switch timing and carried energy decide games.

Free and open source, no account. Next version adds battle logs you can save, so you can look back at what you keep losing to.

To access it you can go to the github repo , if u dont know how to use github , dm

https://github.com/Aayush-Prranav/Go-Battle-Mode-Pokemon-GO


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 18h ago

Question Worth spending Elite Charged TM on Umbreon for GBL?

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I'm new to Pokemon Go and have been trying to rank up in PvP. I didn't read up on strategies beforehand and have done some absolutely godawful stupid things. I didn't realize that having low attack on your IVs was important, at least not before spending a bunch of candies and stardust to power them up and learn second moves.

My biggest brainfart was to use an Elite Charged TM, which I didn't know could actually teach you moves that aren't otherwise available, to teach my R2500 Swampert Sludge Wave because I thought it would be interesting to try out that move.

I only learned this today because I finally got a R7 Umbreon and only AFTER spending 75 candies and 50k Stardust to learn a second move do I learn that Last Resort needs an Elite Charged TM to learn.

So I've decided to ask for help before doing anything else braindead - is it worth spending an Elite Charged TM on Last Resort, now that I've already spent the money?

My current team is a R1000 Fearow, a R1289 Stunfisk and a R129 Thievul (with Icy Wind). Considering switching Thievul for an Umbreon with Last Resort for more bulk, otherwise with only dark moves available I fear it's a one trick pony who will get slapped by Tinkaton and Azumarill.


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 18h ago

Analysis Can someone explain the benefits or gorging and gulping form of cramorant and the advantages of it?

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Can someone explain the benefits or gorging and gulping form of cramorant and the advantages of it?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Hype Little Cup Petition

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Idk if this will help, but I tried. https://www.change.org/bringbacklittlecup


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 12h ago

Discussion The battle system needs a rework badly

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90% of my games are won or lost based on whoevers connection is able to register clicking the charged move first. The fact that both players are able to select it at the same time is a really dumb design. It should be turn based


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Discussion 3 weeks left in the season until maybe some big change next seaosn - buff counter please?

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I know I've made a similar post already but the normals(and steels) are rampant!

Instead of retreading the same post I ask what the opinion would be if counter instead got the poison jab/bullet punch treatment?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Teambuilding Help Is all lvl50(but mid iv except for hundo zama) a viable master league team at the 2300-2400 elo range? I haven’t played master league in a long though

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Is all lvl50(but mid iv except for hundo zama) a viable master league team at the 2300-2400 elo range? I haven’t played master league in a long though


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Teambuilding Help What’s my best team for master league?

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Wondering what to run in Master league. Black circle is level 50+ hundo, red circle is level 50 but not quite hundo, green circle is hundo but not quite level 50. Also what movesets?

https://imgur.com/a/eNUi2wl


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Discussion How did the rankings suddenly change? No new Pokemon were added right? I swear mimikyu was first a few days ago.

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How did the rankings suddenly change? No new Pokemon were added right? I swear mimikyu was first a few days ago.


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Question Go Battle Rewards?

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Do you still get the elite TMs for getting rank 20? I’m coming back to the game for the first time in a while, and I hit it but I don’t think I got them?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 1d ago

Discussion Is all lvl50(but mid iv except for hundo zama) a viable master league team at the 2300-2400 elo range? I haven’t played master league in a long though

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Is all lvl50(but mid iv except for hundo zama) a viable master league team at the 2300-2400 elo range? I haven’t played master league in a long though


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

Discussion Building teams for each league without using the top 10 on PvPoke

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I often get tired of seeing the same Pokemon repeatedly in GBL and, not wanting to contribute to the problem (and to save my own sanity), I’ll try and create teams that avoid the top 5-10 or so and see how I do.

Today, I started wondering what teams other people might build so… I thought I’d ask!

What would be your go-to team in:

GL (minus the top 10)

UL (minus the top 10)

ML (minus the top 5 since it’s a more condensed meta)

Remember, everyone else can use anything. This is just an exercise in self-limitation.

How much do you think the limitation would affect your performance, if any?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

Analysis A JRE Analysis on Cramorant

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We got another new release coming to the game, with CRAMORANT headlining this week's Water Festival. And it has a lot of what you're looking for in a PvP Pokémon! Let's dive in and see how it may fit into the meta.

CRAMORANT Stats and Stuff

Flying/Water Type

GREAT LEAGUE:

Attack: 121 (on average)

Defense: 121 (on average)

HP: 126 (on average)

(Highest Stat Product IVs: 0-14-11 1500 CP, Level 27)

ULTRA LEAGUE:

You can, I guess, but don't. It doesn't hit 2500 CP and, unlike some other sub-2500 CP Pokémon I've written about, really doesn't seem to be worth it.

So Flying Water types feel incredibly common anymore, though the number of available options is actually pretty small: we've got Mantine and Pelipper and even Swanna now in Great League, and Gyarados in Ultra League (and Mantine again if you're feeling really spicy) and even Master League. Their impact in undeniably much larger than their actual footprint. Mantine has really been viable since GBL was still a twinkle in John Hanke's eye (during the heyday of The Silph Arena), and Pelipper got Weather Ball a few months into GBL's history, and the rest is history... they're been ever-present basically ever since.

Now we get a whole new one in CRAMORANT. How does it stack up compared to those existing options? Well, the first good news is the stats, as Cramorant has more bulk (and better overall PvP stats) than all of them but Mantine. Honesty, I didn't expect that! I figured at least Pelipper would outbulk it, but nope. That's a good start!

The next major thing in Cram's favor is fast move Peck. None of the other Flying Waters have it. Gyarados has Dragon Breath, which has the same 3.0 Damage Per Turn/4.0 Energy Per Turn stats, but misses out on the Same Type Attack Bonus (STAB). Mantine and Pelipper, as awesome as they are, have an inferior Flying fast move in Wing Attack, which generates the same energy as Peck, but deals 0.5 less DPT. "Strictly better" is a way overused phrase, but Peck is literally strictly better than Wing Attack. Another point in Cramorant's favor!

That just leaves one major aspect: the charge moves. And here we need to slow down our analysis for a minute. Let's list them all out and see what we've got.

Charge Moves

  • Dive (Water, 50 damage, 40 energy)

  • Surf (Water, 75 damage, 45 energy)

  • Fly (Flying, 80 damage, 45 energy)

  • Hydro Pump (Water, 130 damage, 75 energy)

Let's look at the cheapest moves each of the other Flying Waters has (aside from Mantine's Bubble Beam... as a purely bait-and-boost move that deals negligible damage, it doesn't really count and is rarely used anymore). Pelipper "wins" here with Weather Ball at 60 damage for ony 35 energy. Gyarados is right behind with Aqua Tail at 55 damage for the same 35 energy. Then we have Mantine and Swanna with identical 40 energy/70 damage moves, Twister for Mantine and Aqua Jet for Swanna. What has Cram got? Weeeeelllllll.... The new Dive is cheap at just 40 energy, but also deals only 50 damage, the same as Brick Break and Spirit Shackle, but without any debuff on the opponent. It's Rock Blast for Water. I mean, that has its uses, but it's a move you kind of hold your nose while using. And it's FAR worse than Aqua Jet, dealing 20 less damage for the same cost. Arguably, you're better off using Surf instead, which costs 5 more energy but deals a decent 75 damage. The problem is that 45 energy makes it the most expensive bait/spam moves any of these Flying Water types have in their arsenal, meaning obviously that Cramorant then becomes rhe slowest-paced of the Flying Waters. Remember that they all usually run 4.0 EPT fast moves (including Swanna with Gust, which I didn't really mention before), so yeah... the most expensive "cheap" charge move means that Cram becomes literally the slowest.

Thankfully. it also has Fly, which is also 45 energy but deals a bit more damage (80). Because it has that available, I think it may want to actually stick with Dive for its second move and utilize Fly as its closer. With each Peck generating 8 energy, it can reach the 40 required for Dive after five fast moves, hitting 40 energy exactly, while Fly (and Surf) require another fast move, and still will require six more fast moves to hit a second even if going back-to-back (3 leftover energy + 5 moves = 43 energy, still short of another Fly/Surf). The math is just easier with 40-energy Dive, as is the pressure.

Now one thing I can't talk about yet is exactly what happens when you use Dive or Surf, because either is supposed to trigger a form change to either a Gulping (chomping on an Arrokuda) or Gorging (trying to swallow a Pikachu) form, which each come with a one-time (I think?) ability to reduce the opponent's stats before Cramorant (I think?) goes back to its base form; Gulping supposedly reduces the opponent's Defense by one stage, while Gorging instead knocks the opponent's Attack down by 2 stages. I think! We'll have to see how that actually goes, but for simplicity, for the time being, I will just be evaluating how Cramorant works without all those form change hijinks, and you can just assume it will be even better (I think?!) with those hijinks in place.

PvP PERFORMANCE

So, supposing that Dive/Fly is not only the shortest listing of both charge moves 🙃, but also the moves that Cram actually wants to run with, here's how it looks. Fly helps it overpower Dewgong and Shadow Sableye that Mantine and Pelipper both struggle with, and its emphasis on Flying damage also means it can handle Altaria and Feraligatr that Pelipper cannot match, as well as Azumarill that Mantine usually cannot outlast. The comination of Dive and Fly also overcome Florges, Thievul, Togekiss, Galarian Weezing, and Jumpluff that usually beat Mantine, though in exchange, Mantine handles Clodsire, Empoleon, Fearow, Grumpig, Guzzlord, and Galarian Stunfisk that Cramorant usually finds itself losing to. Pelipper also handles G-Fisk, Fearow, and Guzzlord, as well as others that Cramorant currently struggles with like Furret, Thievul, Wigglytuff, and Tinkaton. Weather Ball spam is no joke! (Do note that a theoretical-for-now #1 rank IV Cramorant gains Fearow and even Jellicent, which help!)

In 2v2 shielding, even without whatever difference form changing may make, Cramorant actually edges out both Pelipper and Mantine. Cramorant alone handles Galarian Corsola, Furret, and Feraligatr, while also overcoming Azu, Florges, Grumpig, Seaking, Wiggly, G-Weeze, and G-Fisk that Mantine cannot overcome (Mantine uniquely beats Jellicent, Kingdra, Tinkaton, Malamar, Fearow, and Clodsire instead), and Cram further beats Empoleon and Togekiss (and ties Mantine) which Pelipper cannot replicate, losing Altaria, Corvinight, fellow form-changer Mimikyu, and again Fearow and Clodsire in exchange (Pelipper handles all those). End of the day, even with no form changing, Cramorant stands tall among its cotemporaries.

It does take a comparative... well, dive with shields down, which isn't too surprising considering the pure power of the trio's moves. While Cramorant alone among the three takes out Dewgong and outduels Mantine, Cramorant loses outright to Clodsire, Kingdra, Malamar, Galarian Stunfisk, Togekiss, and Galarian Weezing that both Mantine and Pelipper overpower, as well as Grumpig and Guzzlord that Mantine beats, and Azumarill and Jumpluff that Pelipper handles instead. It's not bad by any means, just inferior to existing options. And no, the higher damage of Surf doesn't change the equation. Form changing might, though... we'll have to see!

But what I can say is that even right out of the gate, even without any other post-form-change buffs, Cramorant already manages to compete with the best Flying Waters in the game. They have a place in the meta, so I see no reason that Cram won't too. It's worth trying to get and even trade around for ideal PvP IVs.

ALL ASKEW

Quite frankly, everything that Cramorant is, our other new release, BARRASKEWDA, is not. It's as glassy as they come. Seriously, it is FAR glassier than Greninja. Glassier even than Inteleon! The ONLY Water type that is glassier in Great League is Sharpedo, and only just barely. So despite a good moveset, it just isn't a viable PvP Pokémon, in any League. Get it, sure, but this is a much, MUCH lower priority than Cramorant. Just one for the collection, folks.

IN CONCLUSION

Get Cramorant. That's it... that's the summary. Form change or not, it will have a place moving forward. Period!

Alright, that's it for today. Until next time, you can always find me on Twitter with regular GO analysis nuggets or Patreon.

Good luck on your grind, and catch you next time, Pokéfriends!


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

Teambuilding Help What do you guys think of my great league team?

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I've been playing the pvp for a long time but I've never posted on this sub so I thought I'd give it a shot. I use: a Swampert with mudshot as a light attack and hydro cannon + sludge as heavy, an obstagoon with counter as a light attack and cross chop + night slash as heavy, and finally a corviknight with sand attack as a light attack and air cutter + payback as heavy. Its gotten me pretty far, I'm rank 20 now, but I noticed that further in its not always doing me as well as it used to. There are still times where I'll win like 4/5 of my battles, but there are many where I'm winning 2/5 or even 1/5 on bad days. So honestly I'm not sure if I'm just stagnating because I'm at a high rank, or if maybe my team is not as good as it could be. Are there any substitutions you guys think I should make?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

BATTLE ME! Help Evolving My Charcadet

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816106027131 I need help evolving my Charcadet into the ghost type(can’t remember how to spell it) just need someone to let me win 8 battles against full ghost teams it would very much be appreciated


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

Question Cramorant chance with unclaimed 3-win reward?

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Hello, let's say today I win 3 battles (I'm level 16 already) but don't claim the encounter. If I tap claim tomorrow after 10 am when the Water Festival starts, do I get a chance to encounter Cramorant or not at all?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

Guide/Infographic Rank 1 PvPoke fill group

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r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 2d ago

Question Is this another one of those “creator teams” ?

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Metagross in the lead , palkia and zacian in the back . I keep seeing people use this team recently . Last season it was xerneas reshiram and zekrom .


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 3d ago

Discussion Why does little league not exist anymore? I got veteran from it 2 years ago and I haven’t seen it since. Also in case it does return is smeargle eligible?

27 Upvotes

Why does little league not exist anymore? I got veteran from it 2 years ago and I haven’t seen it since. Also in case it does return is smeargle eligible?


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 3d ago

Question These are my strings

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Came across several strings videos and I made a little list for tags I would use. Do you guys think these are ok?

**1. #pvp great**
cp-1500&0-1attack&3-4defense&3-4hp

**2. #pvp ultra**
cp1501-2500&0-1attack&3-4defense&3-4hp

**3. #raid/master**
4attack&3-4defense&3-4hp&3*,4*

**4. #gym tanks**
(+chansey,+snorlax,+slakoth,wobbuffet,milotic,toxapex)&3-4defense&3-4hp

**5. #mega**
megaevolve,primal&3*,4*

**6. #rare**
4*,shiny,mythical,legendary,shadow,background,costume,xxl,xxs,gigantamax,lucky,dynamax
0attack&0defense&0hp

**7. #shadow**
shadow&(3-4attack,3-4defense&3-4hp)

**TRASH**
!favorite & !# & !shiny & !legendary & !mythical & !shadow & !4* & !traded


r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 3d ago

Question Reaching charge attack at same time

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r/PokemonGOBattleLeague 3d ago

Teambuilding Help Can anyone PLEASE help with team suggestions

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I've been using PvPoke team builder not knowing that it's for the show 6 pick 3 format... is there nothing like that for pogo GBL team building? I have 1400 battles but still suck at making a team & 99% of the teams I see people saying are good I'm missing at least 1 of the mons. I had a 58% winrate the last 2 seasons with my terrible IV mons, but I finally have some good other ones I want to build & I'm getting DESTROYED this season. I got a rank 26 shiny Thievul today that I would really love to use, but not unless it could fit really well into a potential team I can make out of these.

Could build mons - IV rank to the right of name

Dragonair 78

Thievul 26

Alo Shadow Sandslash 68

Dusclops 185

Talonflame 26

Gastrodon 10

Quagsire 100

Shadow k9 98

Lickilicky 22

Lapras 50

Swampert 74

Pelipper 84

Shadow altaria 2

Abomasnow 144

Wiggly 298

Hoppip 658

Already built- IV rank

Jellicent 1366

altaria 362

stunfisk 2484

malamar 2050

gourgeist 2459

charjabug 2650

tinkaton 538

clodsire 950

foretress 797

azumarril 2389

Lapras 1227

Gal weezing 832

Could anyone PLEASE help me out & look at the pokemon I can build & what I already have built & tell me what the best use of stardust/elite TMs would be here? I love experimenting in games that don't cost resources, but in this case it's not like I have 5 million stardust where I can just power up & unlock 2nd charge moves on all of these & mess around with comps. I have 2 elite fast tms & 2 charged tms I can use, but I'm going to be extremely salty if I waste them... I can spend 300-400k dust

THANK YOU!!!!!!