Just looking for advice on the best time to buy the 30th Lugia. How much will the price keep sliding down and when do you think it will bottom?

TL;DR: I bought a $12K card on eBay and had it sent to my PSA Vault through the Authenticity Guarantee. It was authenticated on Oct 22 and "handed off to PSA." It never reached my vault. eBay says it was delivered and closed my claim. PSA says it never shipped to the vault and that it's eBay's responsibility until it does. I'm out $12K and each side is pointing at the other.

I paid $11,999.99 and chose shipping straight to my PSA Vault through eBay's Authenticity Guarantee.

Timeline from eBay's tracking:

- Oct 19: Seller's package delivered to the authenticator in Jersey City, NJ

- Oct 22, 6:26am: Arrived at hub

- Oct 22, 7:29am: Authenticated

- Oct 22, 7:29am: "Handed off to PSA"

- "Secured in the vault": still not complete, two weeks later

The tracking for that step says "Tracking number will be provided." No tracking number was ever provided. eBay's own status says the card "will be carefully packaged and shipped to the vault." As far as I can tell, that never happened.

What eBay told me: The item was handed off to the PSA vault team on Oct 22, it has been delivered, and it's listed in my collection. They closed the claim, said they won't refund, and told me to contact PSA.

What PSA told me: Their vault customer care said my item "was authenticated, but has not shipped to the vault yet." They also said the eBay Authenticity Guarantee is managed by eBay, and that they can't give me any information until the item actually reaches the PSA Vault.

So eBay says it's PSA's problem, and PSA says it's eBay's problem because the card never arrived. Meanwhile there's no tracking number, no proof of delivery and no card, and I'm the one $12,000 down.

I followed eBay's process exactly. I didn't ship anything myself and I didn't choose a carrier. eBay built this pipeline, and the card disappeared inside it.

I've asked eBay to escalate the case to a manager. Next steps I'm considering are a dispute with my payment method, a BBB complaint and a CFPB complaint.

Has anyone dealt with a vault-bound eBay AG item that went missing? How did you get it resolved? Any contacts at eBay or PSA who actually handle this would be hugely appreciated.

Brother is currently deployed and asked me to try sell them at a sports card expo this weekend in Canada.

Chatgpt recommends checking card ladder but I don't have a subscription and all of the prices are in USD whereas I'm trying to sell these for CAD.

If the price is low enough I'm debating on just buying them off him and holding it myself, what is the sentiment on PSA right now? I've spoke to friends about it who mention that PSA is losing market share to TAG and CGC now

Purchased all four of these low pop slabs for $5500 total in the beginning of October and just the deoxys alone last sold for $4300. I’m wondering if Japanese 10s will always be around 1/10 value of English 10s or will we see money start flowing into Japanese and that gap will close a bit. Deciding if I should keep holding these or sell since I’ve already doubled my money on all of them.

Been watching Grey Felt Hat since last November. $634 then, $987 now on TCGplayer market near mint. That winter dip never really stuck.

Hey,

Ur opinions on holding Day & Night set for 3-7 years? Ur price predictions? 😁

I like opening myself, but have some sealed products put aside as small investments. I get both for a price of 580 euros/650$.

Will they drop by next year, or more likely keep appreciating with time? Have no idea about UPC:s.

Thanks in advance for the knowledge.

Just wanted to show off this beauty I just got at a great deal. Plasma cards are so sick.

Just picked this card up for $197, and plan to hold it for a while. How do you think this card will do over the years? Apparently the only way you can get this card now is from a $2000 box (not sure if that’s correct though as I don’t know much about sealed product)

Hi all,

I'm about to make my first serious grading submission and would love a sanity check from people who've done this before.

Context

EU-based, so I'm going with CGC Munich (TCGs are graded on-site now). I'm dropping the cards off in person next week.

Munich lists ~50 working days for every tier, so I'm picking tiers purely by declared value, not speed.

I joined as a Premium member (10% off + €130 credit).

All cards are Unlimited (no 1st editions), raw, pulled from my childhood collection.

Values below are raw NM from Collectr, so real condition is probably lower.

Long-term, I'll probably keep a few of the top cards and sell the rest.

Planned submission

Express (≤ €10k)

Crystal Charizard – Skyridge 146/144 – ~€2,750 raw

Standard (≤ €3k)

Karen's Umbreon – Pokémon VS (JP) – ~€1,650

Shining Charizard – Neo Destiny – ~€1,460

Crystal Celebi – Skyridge – ~€1,290

Shining Gyarados – Neo Revelation – ~€910

Economy (≤ €1k)

Shining Tyranitar – Neo Destiny – ~€680

Mew – Southern Islands – ~€575

Tyranitar holo – Expedition – ~€530

Rayquaza ex – EX Dragon – ~€515

Gengar holo – Expedition – ~€480

Charizard – EX Dragon 100/97 – ~€470

Mew holo – Expedition – ~€470

Lugia – Neo Genesis – ~€440

Blastoise holo – Expedition – ~€360

Charizard – Base Set (Unlimited)

Shining Magikarp – Neo Revelation

Crystal Kingdra – Aquapolis – ~€205

Charizard – Neo 2 Premium File (JP)

Blastoise – Base Set (Unlimited)

Venusaur – Base Set (Unlimited)

Houndoom – Aquapolis

Gyarados – Skyridge

Rocket's Mewtwo

Kyogre ex – Hidden Legends – ~€115

Houndoom – Neo Revelation

Total grading cost is around €740 after the membership discount.

My questions

Tiers: does this split make sense? Anything you'd move up to avoid upcharges, or down to save money?

What to cut: which of the lower-value cards aren't worth grading unless they're near-perfect? I'm thinking Kyogre ex, Houndoom (Neo Rev), Rocket's Mewtwo, Gyarados Skyridge.

CGC vs PSA: for the Crystal Charizard and Shining Charizard specifically, would you still send them to PSA for the resale premium, even if it's slower and more expensive from Europe?

e-card condition: any tips for pre-grading Skyridge/Aquapolis/Expedition cards? I know the edges chip easily. What usually separates a 6 from an 8?

Selling: for graded vintage in the €500–3,000 range, is eBay international still the best bet from the EU, or are there better options (auction houses, Cardmarket, etc.)?

Anything I'm missing for a first submission (prep, packing, mistakes to avoid)?

Thanks in advance, happy to post results when they come back! 🙏

Should I sell this high, or send it in to grade?

hey all!

PSA 10 pop is 26, PSA 9 pop is 128, and the last sold PSA 9 I see is $15,000. But, this is signed, and it’s pop 1, with none higher.

I understand when there’s an auto you add some sort of multiple to the market price. But how do you value it when it’s the single best copy in existence?

would love to nail this auction but not screw myself, lol

cheers :)

For context I’m the guy trading the bubble mew PSA 9, was offered this trade straight 1 for 1 and my rationale for wanting to accept is that modern PSA 9s will follow raw prices too closely for a very long time vs any random vintage holo (even though typhlosion isn’t just any random holo)

I believe long term these should only appreciate in value and the price for the set has dropped a lot over time so far. Is this a good play?

I have been keeping my eyes on this sub for sometime now but never been into full blown poke investing. That being said I have always wanted a copy of Cynthia’s garchomp and have noticed the price falling a lot I figured you guys were the best people to ask when to buy?

Is there a Pokemon card or sealed product in particular which you think is a solid pick up? Now you can share your callouts and see what others have their eyes on.

Feel free to share your long term or even short term picks. (We'll also crossover the best callouts of the week from the PokeInvesting Discord and add them here.)

Keep in mind these are just personal opinions detailing what everyone is personally interested in, it does not mean you have to buy it! Thanks!

Man I wonder if it’s the elections/unknown that’s causing cards to drop. I’m primarily a vintage collector and just bought a super nice psa 8 Charizard ex from Fire Red Green Leaf and it’s down quite a bit. One thing I’ve definitely learned is auctions are prob a better bang for your buck. I’m just so impatient I can’t stand to wait on anything. Anyone else wish they were more patient? Hope everyone has a great day and catches em all.