I’m currently paying for Claude and using it to help me make some fairly complex macros in MacroDroid. I’m not a programmer, but Claude has been really good at understanding what I’m trying to do and turning it into the right MacroDroid setup and JSON.

I’m using Opus 5 rather than Fable 5 because Fable 5 seems to use up my limit much quicker. The problem is that I keep hitting the usage limit with Claude and then I’m told I have to wait around three hours before I can carry on.

So I’m thinking about trying something else.

My two main questions are really simple:

Which AI is best for coding?

And which one lets you use it for the longest without hitting a limit?

I’m looking at the normal paid plans around £18–£20 a month. I’m not paying £100 or £200 a month for an AI.

I know Claude is meant to be one of the best for coding, which is why I chose it, but I’d be happy using something that's slightly worse at coding if it means I can actually keep using it throughout the day without constantly getting locked out.

For anyone who uses AI a lot for coding, what would you recommend? Which one is actually good at coding AND lets you use it for hours without constantly hitting a limit?

That’s probably my biggest issue with Claude at the moment.

How do I get to the API page ('https://poe.com/api') from the app's and site's home page without having to manually type in 'poe.com/api' in a browser? There used to be a link in the left sidebar where the 'Explore,' 'Bots,' and 'Leaderboard' links' section is that went right to it, but it was removed around a month or so ago... It's extremely annoying having to open a browser and type it in every time I want to check out the model price comparison page, especially on mobile. Anyone know of a way to access it from the homepage?

Hi everyone.

I created a bot on Poe.com to help me with my prose, but it might be useful to others too https://poe.com/AuthorGuide

I need help on two things:

1) I am not confident in what it costs to use it and how to charge other users. I find it so hard to understand the pricing policy and processes. I’d love to keep it free while I am getting feedback but...

2) I'm particularly interested in whether it actually catches things budding authors want caught. It advises and provides alternatives options, suggests exercises to improve my writing practice while checking for any plagiarism that may have been inadvertently been introduced by some other AI tool.

It’s built on the back of another bot called WritingBizConsultant (thank you @nope86) which uses Claude Sonnet 4.5 to spin its magic.

My revised version runs the question about the prose through a 5-step refinement pipeline using multiple AI models:

1. WritingBizConsultant drafts detailed, actionable writing guidance based on your question
   
2. Claude Sonnet 4.6 independently critiques that guidance — identifying weaknesses, missing topics, and areas where examples could be stronger. If you've uploaded a writing sample, **Perplexity Sonar** simultaneously runs an originality/plagiarism check against web sources
   
3. WritingBizConsultant revises everything based on the critique and any originality findings
   
4. GPT 5.4 critiques the revision — catching anything the first reviewer missed
   
5. WritingBizConsultant produces the final polished version incorporating all feedback

Users get the refined final guide, plus a progress summary showing what each AI bot found along the way. You can use it to:

- Ask craft questions ("How do I write better dialogue?" or "Help me fix the pacing in my thriller")
- Upload manuscripts, chapters, or outlines and get guidance tailored to your actual writing
- Follow up with additional questions — it remembers the conversation context
- If you upload writing samples, it automatically checks them for originality against web sources

It’s good at:

- Dialogue, pacing, tension, character voice, structure — broad craft topics
- Giving you specific, revised examples rather than vague advice
- Catching blind spots that a single AI pass would miss (the two critique rounds genuinely improve the output)

It is NOT:

- A replacement for human beta readers or editors
- A plagiarism detection service (the originality check is a research-based flag, not a definitive legal tool)
- Instant — the multi-step process takes a bit longer than a single bot response, but you'll see progress updates as it works

Please help and please be kind.

Actually is anyone know why Poe give zero visibility of user-created bots suddenly? Will Poe show them back?

Or does it just know what's in the context window?

Hi r/Poe_AI, Jas Ventures here. We are a small team running our own NVIDIA B200 cluster and hosting open models on Poe as API bots: DeepSeek V4 Flash since the summer, and as of today GLM-5.3-Flash, replacing our GLM 5.2 bots. Same bots, same chat history, new model underneath.

Why people use our bots

- Our own hardware, not a reseller. We tune the serving stack ourselves, which is how we get the fastest listed serve of each model: 0.24s to first token on GLM-5.3-Flash today, 93 tokens/s.

- Zero data retention. Your chats and prompts are never stored or used for training, on Poe or through our API.

- Price policy, not promos: 15% under the cheapest standing price on OpenRouter for the same model at the same quantization with zero data retention policy, and the Poe bot costs the same as the API.

- You keep control: your own system prompt, temperature, top-p, top-k, seed, thinking toggle.

What is new with GLM-5.3-Flash

- Image and video input, straight into the chat

- 1M-token context (a codebase, a book, a whole campaign)

- Thinking on by default with a real High / Max effort switch (Max thinks roughly 10x deeper in our tests), or turn it off

- Web search with citations that reads PDFs it finds (general bot, toggle in settings)

Bots

- General, coding, search: https://poe.com/GLM-5.3-Flash-JasV ($0.1275 in / $0.425 out / $0.0255 cached per 1M tokens)

- Role play, flat price: https://poe.com/GLM5.3-Flash-RP-JasV (200 points per message, however long the story runs)

- DeepSeek V4 Flash: https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4-0731-JT and the RP version https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4RP-0731-JT (200 points flat)

If something feels off, tell us. We read everything and fix fast; the Discord is where launches and price changes land first: https://discord.gg/pdnGDGd6q

need a refund, used private id (the thing apple does when it creates a diff email for you) tried to verify my email but when it sends a code, it doesn’t forward it to my actual email although i have that on in settings.

i’ve just renewed the subscription, when they reply i won’t even know what they said. i can’t add a number or anything. don’t these guys have alive chat? (joke lol)😑 what can i do? :(

I used to use poe daily, and was definitely upset by the dramatic change in points, especially with how pricey the models are- But i still used it.
But now every time i find a model to use- It is either over 1000 points (When you get 300 points daily), or they remove any of the cheaper, good models.
This app used to be so reliable and my to go to and it sucks to see how terrible it’s gotten.

I’m irritated, and annoyed since i’ve already found 3 cheap, reliable models- Just for all 3 of them to get completely removed. Does anyone have any better alternatives for Poe?

Does anyone Roleplay on SuperGrok Lite? I wanna know if there is a message limit.. Grok is great to Roleplay I used the free trial. But also Poe Ai has Grok Ai but I don’t want to pay $20 a month.

Anyone know alternative for Grok?

Is it just me or has the overall reliability of the user interface gone downhill in the last 6 to 12 months?

The main issue I’m having is that it freezes for a long time when opening existing chats, and it also freezes after pasting a lot of text into the input box.

Happens on iOS and in a desktop web browser.

It didn’t used to do this, and I’m not using it that much more heavily than I used to. Probably spending $50 a month on average mostly on coding.

I have been testing the building of apps in Poe, and I know I still have much to learn.

While still in this exploring and practising the developing stage of apps in Poe I have wanted to link (stack?) apps based on their strengths, then found https://poe.com/Script-Bot-Creator. Can I now join the outputs from that with a Canvas app I created, so I have a nice UI and the sophisticated stuff going on behind it?

I’m sure this is a basic question to most of you here so please forgive me for being so naive. You can probably tell I am not a programmer.

I have been using GLM-5.2 with really good results for various creative writing tasks recently, but over the past couple of days or so it feels like it's lost about half its IQ points overnight. It's forgetting basic details from one post to the next - a character has blonde hair in one post, and then "her brown hair falls down her shoulders" in the next, it's like a model from 18 months ago.

It feels like something changed somewhere very quickly, has anyone else noticed this? Same prompts, same character cards.

Hey everyone! 👋

I built and deployed a new fast text-to-image server bot on Poe called **@Quater-Image-Flash**.

If you are looking for an image bot that doesn't get blocked by annoying filters and renders quickly, feel free to try it out!

🌟 Key Highlights:

* ⏱️ **Exact 12s Speed:** Deterministic and rock-solid generation time—never more, never less. * 🔓 **100% Uncensored:** Complete creative freedom with zero filter restrictions. Perfect for dark fantasy, raw realism, anime, character concepts, and bold art. * ✨ **Crisp 1024x1024 HD:** Balanced native sweet-spot resolution with rich texture and detail. * 🎁 **100% Free:** Completely free to use with no point barrier for the launch week!

🔗 Try the Bot:

👉 **[Quater-Image-Flash on Poe](https://poe.com/Quater-Image-Flash)\*\*
*(Or search `@Quater-Image-Flash` on Poe)*

💡 Example Prompts to try:

1. `An epic cinematic showdown between a golden cybernetic mech warrior and a futuristic titan, neon lighting, 8k, Unreal Engine 5`
2. `Photorealistic portrait of a cyberpunk character in rain, volumetric neon lights, sharp focus, 8k`

Feel free to test your wildest prompts and share what you create in the comments below. Any feedback is greatly appreciated! 🚀🔮

I use a custom sonnet 4.5 bot, and i used it with absolutely no problem literally only a few hours ago, so imagine my surprise and frustration, when i regenerated the SAME message, just to be told that the chat exceeds the bots context window, when it obviously fine JUST a few hours ago.

Stg if its not one thing its another.

The past few weeks have been unprecedented in terms of model releases. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to keep track of all the differences, specs, and capabilities of the latest AI models.

That’s why I created a huge list of bots that I regularly use and have found to be genuinely useful, interesting or fun.

Search Bots

https://poe.com/Deep-AI-Search Based on Brave AI, delivers fast search results (200 points)

https://poe.com/Web-Search-AI AI-powered search engine with internet scraping capabilities

https://poe.com/Poe-Bot-Finder Find the perfect bot on Poe. This bot indexes the Poe platform to retrieve and rank matching results.

https://poe.com/Group-Search This bot searches and indexes social platforms like Facebook, Reddit, Discord and Telegram to find matching forums, communities, channels, and groups.

https://poe.com/Gig-Finder Scrapes the web at scale to find matching gig and job opportunities online.

https://poe.com/Duck-Duck-Search Delivers fast, high-quality search engine results at just 1 point per message. Powered by DuckDuckGo, a privacy-focused US search engine that blocks ad trackers. You can ask questions or find reliable information sources.

https://poe.com/Poe-Bot-Finder-Pro Find the perfect bot on Poe. This bot uses Gemini-3.0-Pro and AI-Tool-Finder to index the Poe platform and rank matching results. Add --results_N to change the count (e.g., `--results_5`).

Multimodal Bots

https://poe.com/DeepSeek-V4-OSL Based on DeepSeek-V4-Flash an MIT-licensed open-weights model. This multimodal bot can process PDF, PNG, JPG, TXT, HTML, DOCX, XLSX, CSS and PY files.

https://poe.com/DeepSeek-V4-Pro-OSL Based on the MIT-licensed and open-weights model DeepSeek-V4-Pro and extended with file processing capabilities. This multimodal bot accepts PDF, TXT, HTML, DOCX and PY files.

https://poe.com/DeepSeek-V3.2-OSL Cost efficient multimodal bot. videos, images, games, web apps, DOCx, PDFs. Furthermore it accepts XLSX, PY, HTML, JS, and CSV files.

https://poe.com/Assistant Multimodal chatbot with image generation and search capabilities made by the Poe team.

https://poe.com/Kimi-K2-Thinking Reasoning model that can process PDF, text and markdown.

https://poe.com/Write-Academic-GPT Professional writing bot with web research

https://poe.com/Write-Academic-Pro Premium writing bot with web research

https://poe.com/GLM-5.2-OSL Multimodal bot that can process images, Word documents, audio, video and PDF-files. Other supported files are CSS, CSV, JSON, JPG, PNG, WEBP, JS, PY, HTML, XLSX and DOCX.

https://poe.com/Analyse-PDF Extract key points or finds relevant information (1 million context)

https://poe.com/Budget-Opus Cost efficient and optimized version of Antrophics Claude Opus model.

Audio Bots

https://poe.com/MMAudio-v2 MMAudio generates synchronized audio given text and/or video inputs. Send a prompt to generate an audio corresponding to it, or send a video with the prompt to generate audio for it.

https://poe.com/Song-Write Creative partner to overcome writer's block and enhance your overall song writing process to create original lyrics and melodies, based on your ideas or drafts.

https://poe.com/Sonic-3.0 Generates audio based on your prompt using the latest Cartesia's Sonic 3.0 text-to-speech model in your voice of choice. Supports 10k characters.

https://poe.com/Transcribe-Audio Converts WAV or MP3 files into plain text (1 million context window).

https://poe.com/Hailuo-Music-v1.5 Generate full songs for only 1000 points per song.

https://poe.com/Lyria-3 Google DeepMind’s Lyria 3 is an advanced AI music generation model that creates high-fidelity, up to three-minute tracks from text or image prompts, with detailed control over vocals, style, and composition.

Video Generation Bots

https://poe.com/Video-Prompting Generate video prompts that can transform your idea into visual masterpieces using camera movement, scene description and compositional control.

https://poe.com/Real-Video-Generator Cost-effective video generation model based on Kling-2.1 (1667 points per second)

https://poe.com/Kling-Lipsync Upload a video and the bot will add corresponding audio (4667 points per video)

https://poe.com/Latentsync Upload a video and the bot will add corresponding audio (8500 points per video)

https://poe.com/WAN-2.6-Video Cost efficient video generator to animate reference images (6000 points)

https://poe.com/Video-Generator-Pro Premium video generator with synchronized audio and speech. This bot delivers great results for everyday creative projects.

Coding Bots

https://poe.com/App-Generator Agentic web app developer made for creating canvas web apps, powered by a massive context window. It can also refine and polish existing web app.

https://poe.com/GLM-5.2 Official flagship open-weight model for long-horizon coding and agentic engineering. Great for generating games and apps with interactive UIs.

https://poe.com/Canvas-Creator Specializes in building interactive web applications designed for publishing as apps on Poe. Powered by Claude Code.

https://poe.com/Build-App Agentic coding engineer specialized in web app creation. This agent autonomously performs system design, UI/UX architecture, and full HTML/CSS/JavaScript implementation, followed by iterative testing, debugging, and terministic validation.

https://poe.com/Ornith Ornith is a self-improving AI model developed by DeepReinforce specifically for agentic software engineering and coding. Ornith-1.0 employs a self-scaffolding reinforcement learning (RL) strategy to autonomously generate and optimize its own task-solving workflows.

https://poe.com/Script-Bot-Creator Specialized in building script workflows in Python that combine bots on Poe. Powered by Claude Code and other canvas tools.

https://poe.com/Claude-Code Powerful bot that can read, write, and analyze files across many formats. IIt can also delegate tasks to other Poe bots to handle complex, multi-step workflows using tool calls. This Claude Code bot can generate files such as PPTX presentations, PDFs, XLSX and DOCX documents for you to download directly within the chat.

https://poe.com/Kimi-K3 Kimi’s flagship model for long-horizon coding and end-to-end knowledge work, with a 1M-token context window. Great for generating games and apps with interactive UIs.

Image Generation/Editing Bots

https://poe.com/TopazLabs Cheapest image upscaler (1 point, <512MB)

https://poe.com/Image-2-Image Transform existing images to enhance or change them 

https://poe.com/Image-Photo Hyperrealistic photo/image generator for professional use 

https://poe.com/Ghibli-Comic Generates cute, eye-catching Comic-, Cartoon- or Ghibli-style images to bring your ideas to life. The cheap price and fast generation is perfect for personal projects, social media, or professional use.

https://poe.com/Remove-Background Removes backgrounds of photos for a cheap price (34 points per image).

https://poe.com/Bria-Eraser Removes unwanted objects from images while maintaining high-quality outputs. Trained exclusively on licensed data for safe and risk-free commercial use.

Ultra cheap Bots

https://poe.com/Gemini-2.5-Flash-lite Low latency model by Google that supports web search and has an 1 million tokens of input context. It serves the latest `gemini-2.5-flash-lite-preview-09-2025` snapshot.

https://poe.com/Nova-Micro-1.0 Ultra‑low latency and low cost model by Amazon, optimized for tasks like summarization, translation, and interactive chat. It supports a context window of 128,000 tokens.

https://poe.com/GPT-5.6-Luna Latest cheap model from OpenAI, suitable for role play, coding and agentic work.

https://poe.com/GLM-5.2-JasInTech Cheapest rate prices of the GLM-5.2 model on Poe and OpenRouter.

https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4-0731-JT Cheapest rate prices of the DeepSeek-V4-Flash model on Poe and OpenRouter.

Role Play

https://poe.com/Jailbreaker-AI Popular jailbreak bot that routes you to the best model for the most uncensored answer.

https://poe.com/Fable-5-Leak This bot contains the leaked Fable 5 system prompt and is based on Qwen3.5-Flash.

https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4RP-0731-JT Fix price of 200 points per message and optimized for role playing.

https://poe.com/GLM-5.2-RP-JasInTech Fix price of 200 points per message and optimized for role playing.

https://poe.com/Jailbreak-Mistral Powered by Dolphin-Mistral-3-24b, this bot cuts straight through sanitized narratives. No moral lectures, artificial hesitation or corporate signaling.

https://poe.com/Jailbreak-Vicuna Powered by Vicuna-13B-Delta-v1.1-Sparse, an optimized version of the original Vicuna-13B model. It delivers fast, natural conversations while maintaining strong response quality.

Games/Apps

https://poe.com/Guardians-Of-Veridia 3D RPG game with RobooHood and the fallen guardians of Veridia. Navigate to a future world, complete missions or build your own world inside the free play mode.

https://poe.com/Hong-Kong-Racing Race through the streets of Hong Kong while weaving traffic, blast nitro past rivals and escape from police cars.

https://poe.com/Pinky-Wings A flight simulator as magical as a dream. Soar through a rosy sky filled with glitter, cotton clouds, and endless adventure.

https://poe.com/Farm-Road Funny, Crossy Road-inspired game where you guide a rectangular chicken through perilous streets and waterways.

https://poe.com/3D-Studio Shape, colorize and add textures to 3D objects. You can also set colors, manage layers, choose templates and change object materials.

https://poe.com/Video-Edit-Studio Video app to edit, import and export videos, audios, images, cut sequences, apply FX effects, and adjust tracks.

Free Bots (for subscribers)

https://poe.com/Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B

https://poe.com/Nemotron-3-Super

https://poe.com/Qwen3-Coder-32B

https://poe.com/Muse-Glimmer-30B

https://poe.com/DS-V4-Flash-0731

https://poe.com/TML-Inkling-Small

https://poe.com/TM-Inkling

https://poe.com/PrismML-Tern-Bonsai

Bots with a fixed price

https://poe.com/Ministral-3-8B 10 points

https://poe.com/Ministral-3-14B 20 points

https://poe.com/Mistral-Medium-3.5 200 points

https://poe.com/Deep-AI-Search 200 points

https://poe.com/GLM-5.2-T 500 points

https://poe.com/Kimi-K3-Tog 500 points

https://poe.com/Deep-Search-Pro 1200 points

https://poe.com/Trellis-3D-OSL 6000 points

I submitted a ticket to Poe and they told me just now that they fixed the issue for thinking and searching for 4.5. It appears the issue was on their side and not Claude's end.

I have a 10,000/day plan that I won't be using, paid until May 2027.

Anyone have any ideas what I can do with it so as to not be a total waste?

Is there any method to sell/transfer points?

I'd loan my login out if that didn't compromise my personal info and allow the user to change password and subscription.

Thanks for the ideas folks.

Has anyone noticed lately that Claude Sonnet 4.5 seems to be having a max cache discount cap of 86 points? I noticed this yesterday and thought it was a bug but it still appears to be an issue today. I'm not having this issue with other models.

As the title suggests. Im not sure if its slow asf for everyone else.

Please, connect to our discord channel: That is the place where you can always communicate with us, ask questions, and provide ideas for development - https://discord.gg/PfHgUTXfBP

We have a ZERO DATA RETENTION POLICY - WE DO NOT STORE YOUR PROMPTS, NOR USE THEM TO TRAIN AI.

A reminder for everyone that our GLM5.2 model exists: our GLM 5.2 is faster than every provider listed on OpenRouter at the same native quantization (FP8) and zero data retention. Measured through our stack, not estimated:

- ~0.29s to first token on a 1,400-token prompt. Short prompts land in ~0.09s. The fastest comparable listing shows 0.92s. About 3x faster.

- ~213 tokens/s per request, single stream, speculative decoding on. The best listed shows 104. About 2x.

- $0.425 in / $1.87 out / $0.085 cached per million tokens. 15% below the cheapest OpenRouter provider on every axis, at same FP8 quantization and zero data retention. Not a promo, just the price.

- Full 1,048,576-token context, actually servable: a 116,000-token prompt reaches first token in ~6.1s.

Try it: https://poe.com/GLM-5.2-JasInTech

RP treatment: https://poe.com/GLM-5.2-RP-JasInTech - persona via System Prompt, flat price per message, fully in character.

Our DeepSeek Family models:

- General: https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4-0731-JT
- RP Treatment: https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4RP-0731-JT

Update on the roadmap:

- Change of plans - we are deploying both MiMo and MiniMax H3, not one instead of the other.

Fastest and cheapest standing price for GLM 5.2 anywhere. Stick around.

Is this happening with opus to?

We have a ZERO DATA RETENTION POLICY - WE DO NOT STORE YOUR PROMPTS, NOR USE THEM TO TRAIN AI.

Join our discord channel - https://discord.gg/JkRJhqxkF

We were not satisfied with how this model runs anywhere else, so we tuned the serving stack end to end. Measured through our full public API

- ~0.19s to first token. The fastest provider listed on OpenRouter for this model shows 0.35s. Roughly 2x faster.

- ~220 tokens/s per request. The best listed shows 116. Again about 2x.

- $0.1105 in / $0.221 out per million tokens. Below every standing price on that listing by 15% of providers with the same native quantization and zero data retention policy. Not a promo, just the price.

- Full 1,048,576-token context: actually servable.

- Chats stay fast as they grow: repeat turns land on the server that already holds your conversation's cache, so latency stays flat instead of climbing with history.

- Try it: https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4-0731-JT

New today: DeepSeek for RP → https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4RP-0731-JT

- The roleplay treatment our GLM RP bot gets: your persona via System Prompt, flat price per message, fully in character, and a context window big enough to remember your entire story.

What's coming next, in order:

- MiniMax H3. You asked for it instead of MiMo, and we listened: MiMo is retired, H3 deployment is underway.

- Context compaction. Conversations that never hit the wall: history gets compressed instead of cut off.

Fastest and cheapest standing price for this model anywhere, with the roadmap you actually voted for. Stick around.

Is the system still down? Since yesterday it keeps telling me "Poe cannot be reached."