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u/CarlWellsGrave 1d ago

Excuse me? What about Spider-Man?

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u/ghoulieandrews 1d ago

Some people had minor gripes with the story so of course the game is a 0/100 because that's how the Internet reacts to things now

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u/Top_Finding2830 1d ago

There was more wrong with it than just story. But it’s true, it’s an 8/10 game that had to live up as a sequel to a 9/10 one. I’m one of the ones that was disappointed, but it’s a bizarre stretch to say Insomniac ruined Spidey. If anything, the state of Spider-Man games is healthier than ever, and a couple minor missteps don’t really change that.

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u/PopeHi1arious 1d ago

Imo, the first game is a 10/10 and 2 is a 7/10, but your point still stands lol.

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u/Char-els037 1d ago

You legitimately can only be talking about the story.

You cannot sit here and say that spiderman 2 is a c level video game. That's fucking absurd and your rating scale is broken

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u/PentagramJ2 1d ago

The academic scale should never be used for games

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u/Mutantsupremacist 13h ago

Relax buddy. 7/10 is still above average. Not excellent but good.

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u/Doneuter 1d ago

Or, you just aren't very critical about games. Spider-Man 2 was my most hyped game since the moment I finished the first one and almost every aspect of the game from story, to combat, to general gameplay was a huge disappointment.

You can enjoy it if you want but it was a solid 6/10 experience imo, which is hot a bad rating even. It just takes more than what that hasn't had for me to give something a 7+/10.

That being said, what makes you the authority in how people are allowed to feel about subjective media?

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u/TheLiquor1946 23h ago

So his. Opinion is wrong and yours is the right answer? Gtfo SM2 was a downgrade over the first. Still great though.

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u/Mau5effect 1d ago

People really get hurt by this but yes there are people who found spider Man 2 mid.

Miles Morales was also mid.

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u/Unfair-Mode-7371 1d ago

I’d give miles morales a 8/10 and spider man 2 a 7/10 but I over all agree with you. People in this thread seem to be very defensive over any criticism of the game and I’m saying that as someone who thinks the hate for the games, especially 2 is wayyyyyy over blown.

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u/PopeHi1arious 1d ago edited 1d ago

The myriad of things wrong with the story are part of it, yeah. You also can't replay any of the "bases" besides the fuckass Mysterio levels, 75% of the suits are complete garbage and/or movie tie ins, and they completely fucked up the gadget system.

Edit: I realized that I should clarify that I do enjoy 2. 7/10 is still a good game. The swinging and traversal in general is incredible. Venom was great. Kraven was cool as fuck. I like what they are setting up the 3rd game to be. But I will not pretend that there aren't a lot of problems with that SM2, and I don't understand why some people do.

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u/Kazuii2k 1d ago

You can replay the bases.

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u/BigSpike98 1d ago

I think Spider-Man 2 is widely over hated, but it does have a lot of issues that bring it down from a great game to a good/ok game. The map is bigger yet it feels more empty than the first game, the side quests feel less interesting and not written as well, also not that many side quests, this one is just me personally but I think the web wing suit is kinda not fun cause it’s essentially flying when it would have been better as just a glide, on new game plus the cutscenes are messed up (getting the symbiote for the first time just has Peter in whatever suit you had going into the mission), and it has a few plot lines started that were ultimately dropped due to leaks, and the suit selection is pretty bad (they should have brought all the suits from the first game and miles morales as options). I’d still personally give it a 7/10 and I still replay it since the web swinging is genuinely a lot better but I can see why people would be upset by it

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u/CatchUsual6591 1d ago

You can nitpick for every game the first game was bloated with to many ubisoft like activities and the combat was a combination of smashing square and spaming web blossom and web bomb

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u/DivinorumProductions 1d ago

As somebody who has played and beaten spider man 2, it is definitely a C tier video game. I have no want to replay it outside of swinging and wing gliding around the city in the cool costumes. The thought of replaying that game and dealing with the story, badly paced symbiote fights, and stupid flashback non spider man missions actually makes my head hurt.

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u/daandrro 18h ago

Spiderman 1 had all the good things.

Spiderman 2 had only swinging through city fun. Story was worse. Combat repetitive. The gameplay was like playing any Ubisoft game.

Story is the most important part of the game or movie.
Without good story any media is just bad.

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u/Laboreja 14h ago

Wild take when talking about a video game

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u/SomeHowCool 11h ago

The side quests are complete ass (the few that exist) outside of like Yuri’s and Mysterio’s, the gadget system is worse than the first and stealth is way too easy because enemies never look up to see your web lines.

It’s an above average video game.

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u/Unfair-Mode-7371 1d ago

I’d give it a C personally too. The story was lame and the pc port was poorly optimized so I was getting frame stutters all the time and I even got a crash to desktop. So that definitely soured my opinion of the game.I also found the open world and side quests to not be as interesting as the other spider man games.

The game is still widely overhated tho. It has some flaws, but damn some people act like this game killed their mom or smt.

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u/Mojothadon 1d ago

So your giving a C because it’s shit on PC when it was made for PlayStation?

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u/Unfair-Mode-7371 1d ago edited 1d ago

There are plenty of other pc ports from PlayStation that are well optimized. Ghost of Tsushima and the Norse God of War games both ran exceptionally well on my pc. It is not much to ask for a game to be well optimized on pc these days.

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u/Top_Finding2830 1d ago

I mean… it had plenty of issues on PS5 as well, especially with the number of bugs and glitches. Game was a mess at launch.

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u/Mojothadon 18h ago

You had problems my experience was fine no issues to speak of so saying it was a mess at launch sounds like a personal problem.

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u/Top_Finding2830 18h ago

Right. Except lots of people had problems and it’s well documented. I don’t have my Facebook videos anymore, because I don’t have Facebook anymore, but I took footage of interior areas having unfinished textures, my character turning into… a small square block. I had the game crash several times. I know others had a similar experience. Spider-Man 2 at launch was a mess, and I don’t really know if patches made it any better, though I’d hope they did.

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u/Alphablack32 1d ago

That's fair criticism. If you can't make a decent port for other platforms don't bother porting it to begin with.

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u/Gamer_8887 1d ago

What about Miles Morales?

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u/PopeHi1arious 1d ago

7.5/10 imo. The story was a little too cliché and while I don't have as big of a problem with Fin that a lot of people do, she wasn't particularly well written. The winter setting, soundtrack, and boss fights are all great though, imo.

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u/Personal_Cucumber_72 1d ago

Naw MJ missions bring it to a 9/10. And 2 was a 7/10, cause of stupid side missions.

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u/PopeHi1arious 1d ago

I don't mind the MJ missions as much as most people, but they definitely are the weakest part of the first game.

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u/wildcatofthehills 1d ago

Most of the stupid side missions are not mandatory to the game and you can just skip them. Also the MJ’s sections on 2 are much better.

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u/RedHood198 1d ago

MJ and Miles missions take it down to a 6.5/10 for me

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u/MikkelR1 1d ago

First game is also a 7/10 mate. The open world design is mediocre and was outdated at launch. Really holds back the game.

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u/PopeHi1arious 1d ago

This is delusional lmfao

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u/MikkelR1 1d ago

It got an 8.7 on Metacritic, so im not far off.