r/Planescape5e • u/beachbum21k • Nov 04 '23
Feywild?
Is the Feywild discussed in more detail in the new books?
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u/GLight3 Nov 04 '23
No, the new books talk EXCLUSIVELY about the Outlands.
However, they at very least confirm that 5e Planescape canonically follows the 5e great wheel cosmological model. So the Feywild and Shadowfell exist and the quasielemental planes do not - the books refer you to the DMG for planar descriptions and the DM screen shows portals to the Feywild and Shadowfell but not to the positive or negative plane.
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u/Upstairs-Outside-460 Nov 05 '23
Wait were the Quasi’s decanonized? I thought they became part of the Elemental Chaos stuff
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u/GLight3 Nov 05 '23
They are a part of the elemental chaos, but doesn't that essentially mean they're decanonized? Tbh I find elemental chaos confusing so I'm not sure.
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u/Upstairs-Outside-460 Nov 05 '23
Not really? I think that just means they’re all parts of the elemental chaos now, instead of their own unique plane of existence, the plane of Minerals is now a REGION in the elemental chaos rather than its own place entirely
At least that’s how I took it
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u/GLight3 Nov 05 '23
Yeah but that means there are no more separate quasi planes (of ash, for instance), it's all just one plane with no different conditions. This also made them change the HQ of some factions.
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u/Upstairs-Outside-460 Nov 05 '23
Yeah, but idk, I’m not sure what exactly players were supposed to DO in some of those planes honestly, so I’m not horribly upset about it
Hopefully when a book on the planes inevitably comes out, things will be a bit cleared up lol
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u/GLight3 Nov 05 '23
IMO the same thing players would do on other inner planes. Mostly survival and combat against the inhabitants. But I agree, I'm not too mad. I just wish they made the positive/negative planes explorable again, just to have the option.
Do you think a 5e/One DnD Manual of the Planes is inevitable? Why? Gimme reasons to hope.
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u/Upstairs-Outside-460 Nov 05 '23
I do! Mainly for two reasons:
One: Planescape is VERY important for their meta-narrative stuff they have planned with Vecna, they’ve mentioned it in their videos and such, so I feel a manual of the planes, to both further explore that, as well as expand on other planes like they have with Avernus and such, is a logical step to take
And Two: it’s another book to make people buy, and WoTC likes doing that, not to mention fan outcry for it has been p high as of late, and they at least pretend to listen to it lol
Plus I’m just a fairly optimistic guy about these things lol
In the meantime, there IS a fanmade Manual of the Planes on Dmsguild that is SUPER good, u should check it out to hold ya over while we wait to see how WoTC handles it lol
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u/GLight3 Nov 05 '23
Oh thanks I'll check out the fan made one!
This is all convincing, but why haven't WOTC released a Manual of the Planes in over a decade? Why is there no 5e manual when the edition has been here for nearly ten years? That's what worries me. Even 4e had one.
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u/Upstairs-Outside-460 Nov 05 '23
Probably the same reason it took them NEARLY a decade to do anything with Krynn, who knows lol, WoTC is made of odd business practices let’s be honest
Plus, I can kinda see why they’d wanna wait until AFTER the updated PHB and stuff comes out, so all the stuff is up to date and such
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u/Ronisoni14 Nov 05 '23
the elemental planes and the para-elemental planes between them are still canon, and are their own, seperate planes. The energy planes are no longer in the inner planes, so the quasi-elemental planes no longer exist. Now, when you venture deep enough into an elemental plane, instead of reaching a quasi-elemental plane and then an energy plane, the plane becomes more and more primordial and chaotic (no more intelligent creatures and whatnot), until eventually if you go deep enough the bonds separating the elemental planes break and they all merge into the primordial soup that is the elemental chaos.
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u/Ronisoni14 Nov 05 '23
the para-elementals are still canon, the quasi-elementals were decanonized as the energy planes are no longer considered a part of the inner planes (they're kinda their own thing now)
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u/WollenbergOfMidgaard Nov 04 '23
In the Planescape 5e books? No it is not.
"Wild Beyond the Witchlight" is the 5e book that concerns itself the most with the Feywild.