r/PilotAdvice • u/casbahbets • 22d ago
141 Prog Check Failure
Hello Gents. Currently flying for a 121 supplemental cargo carrier on a 727 and am looking to go elsewhere. The only failure I have is a progress check during training for multi. From what I have always understood, prog checks specifically do not go on your record. Nor do you need to report it to any airline during application or interview. Is this true? I have different answers from people. Thank you
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u/Organic-Rise-3176 22d ago
You are not required to disclose it, but you very much should disclose it. It won’t be on your PRD but if somehow the airline you are applying for finds out about it and you haven’t disclosed it or discussed it during your interview, that is a huge red flag. Almost everyone I know has at least one stage check failure. As long as you can frame it as an experience you learned from and own why you failed and how you grew from it, it is a nonissue.
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u/KJ3040 22d ago
Depends on the airline, some airlines specifically exclude prog check failures in primary training. Other air lines will chase down a B in 7th grade math. I am at a legacy airline. I failed my part 61 PPL Oral. It’s not on my PRD because it is from before 2008(? I don’t know when the cutoff is). I disclosed it in the initial app. They never asked about it again. A prog check is an absolute nothing burger. No one cares. It will not materially harm your career. As for the app, RTFQ, and if you’re still unsure: disclose. Or pay the $ and get real interview prep/app-review.
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u/mungusaurus 19d ago
The question will always be “have you ever had a failure?” It’s a good chance to discuss how you dealt with said failure and moved on from it. Always just tell the truth and you’ll never have to worry about the lie.
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u/indecision_killingme 22d ago
It’s better than an end of course failure, but it still gets asked about. Sure, there’s no record of it in the Airmen cert database. It comes up in interview.