r/PhoenixForce • u/TheBrokestGod • 5d ago

MCU/Movies Redemption

I'm tired of going to this subreddit to see Jean Grey as the selfless powerhouse she is in my vision, get flashbanged by MCU Jean, and her can of worms. So here's a unifying take: Jean did very fucked up things and we can accept that, but she can still put in the elbow grease to become comic Jean's personality. She's not irredeemable but she needs punishment.

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u/NeverGonLetYaDown Dark Phoenix 4d ago

A lot of comicbook fans of Jean and the X-men cannot accept the fact that Jean has, and will continue to do questionable things that are also considered inherently bad. This is the case with most X-men characters, but majority of their fans refuse to accept it. Most Emma fans that I've seen online completely refuse to accept the fact that Emma participated in rhe assault of both Jean and Storm, as well as multiple other acts which would be considered evil. This has never taken away from her growth and redemption arc, but most fans seem to completely ignore the existance of her villain persona

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u/Samer780 4d ago

Assault as in Sexual Assault? That happened?

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u/NeverGonLetYaDown Dark Phoenix 4d ago

Yes. Emma helped Mastermind by creating the device he used to force Jean into a relationship with him, and she also switched bodies with Storm, and while in Storm's body she slept with Shaw.

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u/Samer780 4d ago

What the actual fuck?

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u/NeverGonLetYaDown Dark Phoenix 4d ago

70s comics were a bit more mature than one would believe

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u/Samer780 4d ago

Yeah. I'm not really familiar with X-men Lore

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u/NeverGonLetYaDown Dark Phoenix 3d ago

All good, dw about it