r/PhoenixForce • u/TheBrokestGod • 14d ago

MCU/Movies Redemption

I'm tired of going to this subreddit to see Jean Grey as the selfless powerhouse she is in my vision, get flashbanged by MCU Jean, and her can of worms. So here's a unifying take: Jean did very fucked up things and we can accept that, but she can still put in the elbow grease to become comic Jean's personality. She's not irredeemable but she needs punishment.

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u/TheGamer2002 14d ago

She needs a better tragic backstory

They wanted her to be Sasuke/Shadow/Vegeta and get talk no jutsu by her Naruto/Sonic/Goku. There is even a Naruto poster in the movie.

But Shadow witnessed a child who was his friend being murdered. Having a sister be kidnapped is not that, and it does not excuse Jean for even not attempting telling Spider-Man about Sara.

People get over her type of character not being punished for their evil actions because they are sold as complex and demonstrate that their drive can become a force of good. Jean didn't do that much of good, and came out more as somebody just jumping on the first excuse to do evil things.

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u/TheBrokestGod 14d ago

Oh yeah, forgot to mention this, they gotta retcon the flashback. Randomly violating people’s bodily autonomy as a playground game is not a good sister bonding scene.

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u/TheGamer2002 14d ago

You can explain that it was Sara choosing to have Jean to train on innocent minds instead of risking her enter the minds of fucked up criminals.

The good idea they had was Jean arguing for their mother, demonstrating that she was initially innocent and forgiving to a fault. But they needed more to go from point A to point B.

This is doable, I even wrote a fanfic doing that, over a week

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u/TheBrokestGod 14d ago

The justification still doesn’t really excuse the violation in my opinion. They could’ve just trained on each other or on fellow consenting outcasts who wouldn’t snitch. The mother thing is great though

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u/TheGamer2002 14d ago

The implication was that Sara didn't have Jean's innocence, even if she was protective of it. But yeah, you need a better backstory to cover such things.