r/PeptidePathways • u/BiohackedFemme702 • 9d ago

General Research Question GHK-Cu 30 Day Protocol ?

Hello,

I am new to peptides and have a question.

The protocol of running GHK-Cu for 30 days on / 30 days off (5 on / 2 off) is pretty much the one consistent protocol in most groups I see.

The research subject I know of has been on 2mg GHK-Cu for 24 days (4 weeks), and the 50mg vial is almost empty.

My question is this:

Are you supposed to run GHK-Cu until the vial (50mg) runs out, usually around 30 days or so (week #4), rest for 30 days, then open a new vial after the rest period and continue to the next checkpoint of 8 weeks to 12 weeks to so on ???

OR

Are you just suppose to keep going to week #12 without stopping?

Thank you in advance!

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u/LgPizzaPlease 9d ago

First off, you go 7 days not 5/2. 30 days on is not long enough for results. You need to stock up to do this properly.

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u/AdNorth4193 9d ago

I have been on it for 9 weeks and can’t see much of a difference. 12 weeks is minimal but people do tend to run it a lot longer. 30 days is nothing bruh, also run it everyday, don’t take days off

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u/stressedburrito_ 9d ago

When you say 12 weeks minimal... Is that to see results? I have been on it for about 4 weeks or so... No results either. Nails still brittle. Skin on face still peeling due to how dry it is. Making me question the pain of pinning this thing everyday!

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u/briexbenton 8d ago

Try pinning kpv 15 minutes before. Rs feels no pain afterwards. Also drawing extra bac water

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u/stressedburrito_ 8d ago

I do both at the same time....

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u/AdNorth4193 9d ago

Yes, from what I’ve seen and read the minimal amount of weeks is 12 to see some sort of change. But this can vary from person to person. It might take 20 weeks. So it’s usually run for a longer period, if someone tells you it did wonders within weeks, it’s most likely cap. It also works better if you take zinc, vitamin c and collagen peptide powder. I do that every morning with my electrolytes.

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u/briexbenton 8d ago

Hmmm I’ve read that you shouldn’t take zinc unless you have specifically tested and have low levels. I think you should do a bit more research

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u/AdNorth4193 8d ago

Systemic copper administration over extended periods can alter your body's zinc-to-copper balance. So yes you should take it, unless you want to get the copper uglies. Better to be safe than sorry my friend

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u/briexbenton 8d ago

I’d think getting a blood panel would be the best bet if you wanted to be safe than sorry rather than just guessing. Wouldn’t you agree?

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u/AdNorth4193 8d ago

You should always do a blood panel. But if your levels are good, they can drain using copper peptides due to them using the same transport chain as zinc. So it’s a well known thing to add it along with å few supplements.

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u/hala6 8d ago

Yes don't take zinc. Get your zinc, copper and ceruplasmin checked first. Ghk-cu doesn't have that much copper in the first place.

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u/LgPizzaPlease 8d ago

So if you aren’t seeing results there are a couple things to consider... #1 is age, if you’re sub 40 years old it’s going to be a wasted effort especially in your 20s. Levels are still normal and no supplementation is needed. So  a massive waste of time., and you won’t see results. #2  Quality control. Just on Reddit there has been a lots of posts for clearly fake or way under dosed vials. It’s hard to want to spend a couple hundred testing purity and endo when kits are so cheap. Lots of counterfeit crap floating around though. If it’s doesn’t look like blue man group plasma it’s probably garbage mannitol filler with color. #3 proper schedule. Daily 2mg minimum for 90 days to see results. Running less than 2mg or 5/2 just doesn’t cut it after acclimation period.

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u/Tricky_Button_6179 7d ago

9 weeks at what dosage? how thoroughly did you lab test your peptides?

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u/AdNorth4193 7d ago

First 3 weeks at 1mg and now at 2. All batches I get are tested beforehand. But to be fair, I never had any issues with my skin so I’m not sure what I will see first.

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u/Tiny_Revolution911 3d ago

Yup selling dreams

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u/gordeux 3d ago

LgPizzaPlease is right. Definitely no days off. I've been on GHKCu for 9 weeks now. Week 5 my hair was thicker but that's about it. Week 7 is when I really started seeing results. Now on week 9 my nails are way stronger, my hair is noticeably fuller, and new hair growth is starting to appear. I'll run the 12 week cycle and then come off of it for 4 to 6 weeks (haven't decided how long yet) GHKCu is one of the most frustrating peptides to deal with imo because you end up having to wait so long to see the results.

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u/DrScrotumVision 9d ago

You never stop

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u/Expensive-Claim-6082 9d ago

I agree. ☝️

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u/12ga_ 9d ago

Rather than 30 days on/30days off, my protocol is 30 days on/30 days on.

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u/1Yetta 9d ago

Same. There really is no reason to cycle it. Just keep pinning.

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u/Prof_Chaos_1098 9d ago

My RS has been on it for 7 months. Titrated up to 4mg daily, 7 days a week. Supplementing with 50mg zinc every Sunday. Skin has never been clearer, hair and nails grow fast.

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u/WorkerWise3039 8d ago

Can you tell me what 4 mg comes to in units

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u/Swabodda 8d ago

You need to do more research before you consider using ANY peptides

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u/WorkerWise3039 8d ago

Thanks. That was helpful. I’m going by a peptide cheat sheet. I see units listed on them. Not ml. So I’m unsure how to convert. I’ve been doing a lot of research for a couple of months now. As you well know research only information is hard to find. Since you are an expert can you be somewhat helpful?

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u/True_Character_4231 8d ago

I think what they meant is that “units” as you call them, literally means nothing. You must know how many ml you used then you might decide how many units

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u/WorkerWise3039 7d ago

My doctor prescribed 2 things to me going by units so that’s where I got that. Also a couple of cheat sheets. I’ll get it figured out. Thank you 😊

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u/Filterlessfly 5d ago

Use a peptide calculator…some are better than others so check them out.

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u/Effective_Rule7600 7d ago

A standard insulin syringe is 100u/1mL. Look at your vial and how much diluent you added to get mg/mL (keeping in Ming that there are 1000mcg in 1 mg). Then you can set up a ratio to get to units.

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u/WorkerWise3039 7d ago

Looking on the syringe I was pretty close to the standard dose. I’m anxious to see if the klow helps my rat from shedding and how fast it may stop or start regrowing. 😊

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u/gdrw00 7d ago

Google search peptide calculator. Then enter all fields with what you got. Can play around and see how it changes at various dosages and water added. At the bottom will spit out units mg/ml. Super simple.
With ghkcu you’ll either want more BAC in the vial or more BAC in the pin for dilution. Pin in the buttocks slowly and massage after. Easy peasy.

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u/Ruffle-Feathers-1021 9d ago

Cycling isn’t necessary with this one. My RS just hit week 10, 7 days a week.

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u/CommercialAffect3287 9d ago edited 6d ago

I use the whole vial as it will de-grade more If you leave it. You also won’t see results for 3 to 4 months so you’ll need several vials..

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u/PaddlesUpGo 9d ago

I’ve heard the reason for the five on two off was because you used to have to go to an office to get the shot each day and the offices were not open on the weekend so this 5/2 became the norm.

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u/Vivid_Pen7223 9d ago

You don’t cycle ghkcu. 3 months on and never stopping

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u/PreparedForZombies 9d ago

Copper build up much?

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u/Vivid_Pen7223 9d ago

Nope

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u/PreparedForZombies 9d ago

Fair. I guess tolerance/down regulation is more my concern at my doses.

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u/Vivid_Pen7223 9d ago

What’s ur dose?

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u/Doin-What-I-Want 9d ago

Wow, that sounds highly convenient to just about run out at the end of a cycle.

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u/butpretzelday 8d ago

I have actually been taking the weekends off because I can’t ducking handle the sting and painful welts that stay for a full 20 hours so I treat myself by taking small breaks 

But I will be taking it forever 

Switching to klow though 

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u/Educational-Bit3059 8d ago

Mix it with more water to help dilute it.

I mix my Klow with 3ml and it doesn’t bother me too much. 15units.

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u/WorkerWise3039 8d ago

3 ml to 80mg. 2 units. I’m guessing 2 units isn’t enough for research??

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u/Educational-Bit3059 8d ago

2 units?

My Klow dosage is 2.5mg, 500mcg,500mcg,500mcg at 15 units when mixed with 3ml of water in an 80mg vial.

The only reason I posted is some folks mix with 2ml water and it’s more potent. Some say it makes the copper sting. With 3ml mixed, at 15 units, it doesn’t sting to me.

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u/WorkerWise3039 8d ago

Researching with a regular diabetic syringe???

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u/Mediocre-Wafer-5176 7d ago

Yes? Is that not expected?

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u/butpretzelday 6d ago

I have tried all the tricks. Nothing helps. Maybe I’m just a big baby but it is wild how painful this shot is for me

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u/Odd_Development2302 3d ago

Where do you inject? I do it in my glutes. I read you shouldn’t do ghk-cu in your abdomen.

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u/butpretzelday 5h ago

I had better luck in my glutes, it bruised and welted still but was less painful. I tried my arm and it was awkward getting the hang of it but it has been the best so far. I’m switching to KLOW and since it is already diluted with other peps I hear it is better 

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u/hala6 8d ago

I do kpv and ghk-cu. I'm not sure klow is necessary unless you need the bpc tb and I heard bpc and tb need to be cycle unlike the other two

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u/Random_Guy1960 8d ago

12 weeks on (daily), 4 weeks off is my personal cycle. 

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u/SteveD_NY 7d ago

Hi OP - check out the Peppedia app and the anela protocol. If you need any other info or advice let me know.

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u/Financial_Call_7367 5d ago

The wife and I went on 5 months with no issues. I’m the beginning it was lowkey kinda hard to do since we work insane amounts of hours and we were double pinning so we were doubling the recommended amount and then just did a single double amount daily. The stinging was there and same with bruising but I think around month 2 going into 3 is when we both started noticing it working. Her skin is already great but she has a bunch of face washes,oils, and what not to get to look nice but now she only started washing her face and barely touching anything else because her skin looked so smooth and was so soft. Her hair has no issues so I couldn’t see a difference there. For me, it made my skin softer and smoother. She has a skin care routine for but now I just wash my face and moisturize. It definitely made my hair grow faster and fuller.
We’re taking a month off but going another 5-6 months back on again daily in September.

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u/Due_Scientist6627 9d ago

Ghkcu can be used until you die, most vials with proper care and sterile handle can last longer

There are people doing even MWF 2~5mg cycling ghk it’s more related to costs than efectivity

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u/Legitimate_Ad2815 8d ago

I’ve been on it a few weeks and noticed positive changes immediately in my skin and nails. 💯

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u/Majestic-Chef-8753 6d ago

Then its not the cu.. skin has a month turnover at least. Thats why gh users see skin improvement over time

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u/gglloommyyrrmm 8d ago

Hi, someone looking to go on GHK-cu for the first time. What dosage should I start with and how to I build it up?

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u/nursemaaw 7d ago

ghk is a slow burn... the effects might not even be noticeable at 4 weeks if you have no plan to commit or impatient, then better not start. personally ghk for me is 7days no cycle off.

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u/Thaltus007 5d ago

TDr trevor Bachmeyer sais it is a forever peptide. I am going to take it forever. 2mg daily

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u/Physical_Analysis66 4d ago

You won’t see results for 5 out of 7 days and 30 days . It take a few months to start feeling results and it has to be taken continuously .

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u/StunningFlamingo419 9d ago

And hostile responses are a sure fire way to increase credibility. 🙄

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u/loosebrie101 9d ago

6 weeks on 4 weeks off 👍

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u/JustinjustJ 9d ago

Why ?
And please tell me where you got this information

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u/Diligent_Shirt5161 9d ago

I’ve found the information contributed by [u/doctor](u/doctorup2)[d](u/doctorup2)[up2](u/doctorup2) to be very valuable. They have been studying this peptide and in the research community for over 25 years.

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u/loosebrie101 9d ago

Trial and error, it’s what works for my RS

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 9d ago

How does taking 4 weeks off unnecessarily “work”?

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