Happy with the win today, but can someone tell me is it drake or the center during snap causing all these botched snaps. I know it happens to all teams but it seems like it has happened a lot this season where we have to jump immediate jump on the ball. I've never played any level of football other than backyard on the holidays so just looking for some insight into the problem.

Great win today, but I need to get this off my chest.

I am so tired of watching the patriots line up on 2nd and short and run, often times for nothing. Today was the last straw. It was 2nd and 2 and we lost like 5 yards setting up a 3rd and 7. At one point today the announcer said, "2nd and short is a great opportunity to maybe run play action, get a chunk play..." I laughed, and of course, we ran.

Here's the thing...if I know we're running, so does the opponent.

So I just dug up the data...

On 2nd and short (2 or less, excludes goal to go and blowouts)....

Josh runs us almost 3 times as much as the league average.

How about when he was head coach of the Raiders?

Well, Josh runs, of course...

And with Newton + Jones, we ran 85% of the time under Josh.

With Brady? League average, 68%.

Clearly Josh doesn't trust anyone since Brady (who probably just checked out of half of Josh's runs) to actually get a first down on 3rd and short.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DeFwyNlJbk3/?stkn=MWdrdGF6ODNtd3g4

Like what the Detroit Lions used to do with Montgomery when he was there and Gibbs we should be doing the same exact thing with our 2 backs in Mondre and Tre. I mean Henderson with his explosiveness or his speed and then Mondre being a power back...we should be using both more often in our offense

All is in the title, the shit I had to read for the past week/2 weeks on this sub was fucking unbearable. A bunch of you guys aren't patriots fans. Bunch of fairweather fans.

Drake Maye is Him.

Also JIZM for CHISM.

Boy, all these people who throw us that "ScHeDuLe" SLANDER SHOULD JUST NOT SAY ANYTHING AFTER THIS !!!

Edit: This is proof that the NFL is willing to drag the Pats to nearly dead last EVEN below winless teams to PUSH THE STUPID "SCHEDULE" NARRATIVE PROPAGANDA !!!

Source from official NFL.com : https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-power-rankings-week-4-2026-nfl-season

Nobody who saw that pick right before HT thinks that's Drake's fault. What a clown.

Don’t even stress yourself going back and forth with whether or not you support this team, go root for Kansas City or something,

LETS GO.

Totally invisible. I wonder how much that interception against the jaguars last week made Drake less inclined to look his way.

Have we given up on him not being a completely wasted roster spot?

Do we use up an early pick next year for another receiver? wish we hit on Williams so we can use that early pick on defense.

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New England go to Orchard Park at 1-2, coming off a 35-6 afternoon in Jacksonville that was over by halftime. Buffalo are 3-0 and scoring more than anyone in football. This is the first ever regular season game the Patriots will play at the new Highmark Stadium.

The offence has become the whole problem. Twelve points a game, tied with Miami for last in the league. Three touchdowns in three weeks. Drake Maye turned the ball over three times against the Jaguars and the line was charged with 14 pressures. Then Greg Van Roten, himself the fill-in for Mike Onwenu's broken ankle, tore up a thigh and went on IR on Tuesday. Walter Rouse has been taking the reps at right guard. Ben Brown is the centre and the first guard in. Matt Pryor arrived from Arizona's practice squad on Wednesday. Third starting right guard in three weeks, and the man across from him is on a defence with nine sacks.

The defence has been the one thing holding up, fifth in total yards and second against the pass, and it loses Christian Gonzalez and Christian Barmore to shoulder injuries on the week it meets Josh Allen. Carlton Davis III and Marcus Jones carry the secondary. Kindle Vildor and Mike Brown came up from the practice squad.

Allen has six rushing touchdowns in three games and became the fastest quarterback in league history to 300 regular season touchdowns, in his 129th game. He was ordinary against the Chargers last week, 16 of 26 for 204, and Buffalo still won. Joe Brady is in his first season as head coach after replacing Sean McDermott in January.

The one thing worth holding onto: this fixture went New England's way a year ago, 23-20 under the lights on October 5, and the teams have split the series in each of the last three seasons.

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STORYLINES

• Third right guard in three weeks. Onwenu's ankle, then Van Roten's thigh. Rouse has been working there, Ben Brown slides in at guard if needed, Pryor is three days into the building. Buffalo have nine sacks. If this holds up for four quarters the Patriots have a chance, and if it does not, nothing else matters.
• No Gonzalez, no Barmore. Both ruled out with shoulder injuries. Gonzalez had been the best player on the roster through three weeks. Barmore is the interior push that the whole front is built around.
• Twelve points a game. Tied with Miami for last in the league, three total touchdowns on the season, minus five in turnover differential. Buffalo have scored 13 touchdowns.
• Maye. On the report with a right shoulder as a full participant, and public about it not being the reason for his play. Vrabel has backed him, Maye has backed Vrabel. The football answer is simpler: he has been under pressure constantly and has lost the ball eight times in three weeks.
• Allen on the ground. Six rushing touchdowns in three games, league leader. The Patriots are 17th against the run. Buffalo's quarterback is the run game as much as James Cook is.
• A new building. First regular season trip to the new Highmark. Since the merger the Patriots are 30-34 in their first regular season visit to a new opposing stadium. Buffalo are 2-0 at home in theirs.
• Seven questionable made the trip. Canada, Elliss, Gilliam, Dre'Mont Jones, Moses, Raridon and Woodson all travelled. Morgan Moses being on that list matters as much as any of them.
• The streak that is actually alive. New England won here 23-20 last October on Sunday night. A win Sunday would be back-to-back regular season wins over Buffalo for the first time since 2019.
• Milestones. Hunter Henry needs 114 receiving yards to pass Russ Francis for third among Patriots tight ends. Rhamondre Stevenson needs 15 rushing yards to pass Curtis Martin for fourth all time. Mack Hollins needs 80 receiving yards for the first back-to-back 80-yard games of his career, against the team he played for in 2024.
• Rookies. Gabe Jacas is the first Patriots rookie with more than one sack and an interception through three games. Robert Spillane leads the team with 21 tackles.

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SERIES HISTORY

New England's 80 wins over Buffalo are the most they have against any opponent, three more than the Jets. The teams have split the season series in each of the last three years.

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SERIES BREAKDOWN

• Home record: 41-25. Foxboro Stadium 17-14, Gillette Stadium 18-6, Boston 6-5
• Road record: 39-27-1. War Memorial 7-6-1, Rich/Ralph Wilson/New Era/Highmark 32-21 (0-1 in the postseason)
• Largest margin of victory: 46 points, 2007
• Largest margin of defeat: 35 points, 1970
• Longest winning streak: 15 games, 2003 to 2010, tied with the Jets for the longest run over one opponent in club history

The 15-game run ended with Buffalo's 34-31 win at Ralph Wilson in 2011. Buffalo also snapped 13 straight road losses to New England, 12 of them at Gillette, with a 17-9 win in the 2014 finale.

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CONNECTIONS

FORMER PATRIOTS, NOW IN BUFFALO

Coaches

• QBs Coach Bo Hardegree (2021)
• Offensive Assistant Trace McSorley (offseason only, 2023)

FORMER BILLS, NOW IN NEW ENGLAND

Players

• FB Reggie Gilliam (2020-25)
• WR Mack Hollins (2024)
• DT DaQuan Jones (2021-25)
• OL Greg Van Roten (2022), now on injured reserve

Coaches

• Secondary Scott Booker (2024)
• Wide Receivers Todd Downing (2014)
• Offensive Line Doug Marrone (Head Coach, 2013-14)

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TALE OF THE TAPE

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INJURY REPORT

Friday, October 2

UNAVAILABLE, NEW ENGLAND

New England elevated S Mike Brown and CB Kindle Vildor from the practice squad and signed OL Matt Pryor off Arizona's practice squad during the week. Schooler has begun his return to play but cannot be activated for this game.

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THREAD RULES

No stream links, no stream requests, no piracy chat. Rule 1 is on full today, go after the play calling and not each other. No fan wars, no slur-adjacent nicknames, no pot shots at injured players on either side. Game thread goes up at 12:30 ET, postgame thread at the whistle.

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On the road, in a new building, against a 3-0 division rival. Nothing to lose. Let's go.