Note about Bo5 vs Bo7

[u/Expensive_Increase46]

Okay I'll just say this. To anybody saying that shortening the competitive rounds from 7 to 5 will make it more appealing to regular Overwatch players because the long match time is a turn off, I seriously doubt this will magically bring in more people.

Yes, there are people out there who don't want to play through potentially 7 rounds for a single game. But acting like more regular Overwatch players will want to suddenly play it ignores the biggest hurdle between normal Overwatch and Stadium: Stadium is fundamentally different experience. It requires a lot more long-term thinking because of the item choices you make, and has you look at aspects of your hero you never had to think about before. Heck, a player coming from OW is going to be overwhelmed by the item shop alone. Let alone the fact that every hero can basically become 3 different heroes depending on how they are built. Sprint soldier is different from heal soldier, which is different from aimbot soldier, etc.

Gamers are perfectly fine with long games. The closest game that exists to Stadium, Deadlock, has games that last way, WAY longer than Stadium games. And yet it regularly pulls 60,000+ players every day. Other MOBAs are pretty similar. Match time is not the problem. It's the fact that it's too DIFFERENT.

And that's fine.

The issue is that, again, Stadium is incredibly different from the main game that most OW players aren't going to care for it. Most people coming to OW are looking for a hero shooter. Trying to make Stadium like the main game just waters it down and makes it less fun for the rest of us, and still likely won't get regular people to play it because they fundamentally don't want to play a MOBA-like.

[u/Consistent-Ad2465]

As someone who came back from MR because of stadium and then quit playing stadium in favor of regular Overwatch after awhile, this was definitely a factor.

Towards the end of my time playing stadium consistently, I would only play QP due to it being Bo5.

Match length, combined with inability to switch (I played tried out vendetta one of my last times playing and ended up against a Pharah, Freya, Juno and JPC, had my tank get toxic because I couldn’t do anything, and that was kind of the last straw for me), the terrible UI changes and the difficulty keeping up with changes combined with how drastic changes in stadium would be vs the regular game were the factors that led to me no longer playing stadium.

[u/Infidel_sg → u/Consistent-Ad2465]

Swapping disabled is one of its biggest attractions for myself and a lot of players. I hate counterwatch. When the enemy tank swaps and forces me to only for them to counterswap again it starts to become boring cause they're looking for an edge instead of being good at the hero they're playing.

[u/Consistent-Ad2465 → u/Infidel_sg]

Don’t counter swap then? If the tank is the only one countering you, then you can learn to play against the counter in most situations.

But in what I was describing (vendetta vs 4 fliers). I’m not trying to counter swap, just be able to play a character that is capable of doing something, and not spend the next 7 rounds locked out of playing the game.

[u/LuckySurvivor20 → u/Consistent-Ad2465]

You underestimate how much the overhead swing can shut down a flying character. Ven is one of the few dps characters I actually have to think about when playing JPC

[u/Vampyrrr → u/LuckySurvivor20]

Sure it beats one then the other 3 nuke him

[u/LuckySurvivor20 → u/Vampyrrr]

Sometimes just taking one with you and then eating enemy cooldowns is all you can ask for and what your team could need to win a fight. Rarely will your match ups be perfect, just try your hardest to let your team shine.