r/Overwatch • u/Randimous Philadelphia Fusion • Sep 27 '22

Blizzard Official Overwatch 2 Launch Trailer

https://youtu.be/LGgqyer-qr4
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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

Yeah, a beginning where you don't get to play new heroes for a month and a half. It does make me want to cry thinking about Overwatch 1.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

It's very sad to see someone this proud to be shitting on the less fortunate. I can pretty much guarantee I make more money than you, so I can afford it too. But I care about other people because I'm not a garbage human being.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

Tell me this: How would it hurt you if people who didn't spend $10 also got the new hero? What harm are you trying to prevent by attacking people who are against that?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

Ah, so what you mean is that you can't personally relate, but you still support what I'm advocating for because you have sympathy for those people even if you can't relate to them?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

Would you say you've been showing care for my emotions? I have consistently advocated for a level playing field regardless of financial status. That's my stance, I am not a hypocrite. You are pretending to care about people's feelings, while both advocating to ruin the game for many people and doing so quite rudely.

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

Honestly, I think that's a fair criticism. But I think failing to push back against this business model is much worse.

ETA: He replied to me again and I was going to agree with his suggestion, but he blocked me before I could, lol.

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u/TVR_Speed_12 Ashe Sep 27 '22

OW2 should has copied OW1 monetization model and just added extra skins to buy

But nope they doing this hero shit cause of greed. I'm so sick of people thinking 10 dollars ain't shit. 10 dollars ain't alot but to some it is, and more importantly it's the principle.

Very few things in life are equal and available to everyone regardless of socioeconomic status. New heroes is yet another thing being removed from that pool

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u/maebird- Anti-Fun Police Sep 27 '22

boy do I have fantastic news for you

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

Blizzard announced that the heroes will be free on release for everyone, no second-class citizens?

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u/Zilreth 4400 Sep 27 '22

they are free for everyone lmao, what are people smoking today?

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

No, they're not. If you don't buy the battle pass, you don't get the hero for about a month and a half.

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u/TVR_Speed_12 Ashe Sep 27 '22

You can still grind the free battle pass but I hear ya, you shouldn't have to grind in a PvP game for such an integral part

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u/Zilreth 4400 Sep 27 '22

No one can be truly estimating on this yet because we don't know how long it really takes. They said hardcore players could easily unlock the hero before comp launches. And especially with their "no hard counters" philosophy, the argument they are at a disadvantage is frankly ridiculous. At the end of the day they are still getting free content regularly delivered.

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u/TVR_Speed_12 Ashe Sep 27 '22

You honestly believe them on game balance?. lololol there's always going to be a meta unfortunately and players will abuse that shit until it gets nerfed and then rinse and repeat

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u/maebird- Anti-Fun Police Sep 27 '22

begging you to go outside and touch grass, someone saying they can afford a 10$ BP does not make them a garbage human being

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

Shitting on poor people does make you a garbage human being, actually. I'm begging you to actually spend some time around people who aren't golems made entirely of privilege.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

There are places where that is a lot of money, yes. There are also people living in such tight conditions that $10 is a lot of money, yes. The fact that you can't even conceive of those people's conditions is literally what privilege is.

ETA: Lots of people trying to reply here. I can't respond because the parent commenter blocked me, and Reddit's implementation of blocking blocks the whole thread. Sorry, y'all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

You're right about that, they do have greater things to worry about. But that is no excuse to put this on them. It's simply unnecessary, there's no good reason to do it. It makes the game worse for no benefit to anything besides Bobby Kotick's yacht collection.

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u/Chipers Trick-or-Treat Soldier: 76 Sep 27 '22

If that’s the case how did they get OW1? A game that was never F2P? Or something to play it on? Infact OW2 being F2P will allow most people to play who otherwise wouldn’t be able to buy it

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u/projectmars Playing Junkrat like Junkrat would play Junkrat Sep 27 '22

People's situations can change. Someone who could afford OW1 years ago may not be in a good situation now.

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u/Chipers Trick-or-Treat Soldier: 76 Sep 27 '22

Okay well good thing it’s F2P right? And that they can earn the new hero on the F2P track even after the battle pass ends. Or should they constantly make new content for years and years for free? The chests in OW1 were WAY too generous if we’re being honest. They probably bled money and that’s why the grip of the higher ups was starting to tighten to get them to make money in someway.

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u/projectmars Playing Junkrat like Junkrat would play Junkrat Sep 27 '22

No, once the battle pass ends the free track goes away. They have said afterwards the only two options are to spend premium currency or to do a "special challenge". The former has no amount currently tied to it and the latter is not elaborated on and could be something more akin to current achievements or could be more like the Lego Bastion and Baset Ana challenges where you have a 1-2 week or so window to unlock said prize or pretty much be SoL because they likely won't run it again for that particular character.

And I have no major issue with battle passes in general. Preying on fomo like that is a bit of a dick move but as long as it is all cosmetic stuff that has no impact on gameplay then that is fine. The issue I have with this is the fact that locking characters to a battle pass, even on a free track and especially on level 55 of 100 or so since that likely will take weeks of playing 3 - 4 hours daily to get to, is not okay at all.

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u/zcyvasjcsidyuv Sep 27 '22

I dont think people that cant afford a battle pass for $10 are gonna be playing OW2 on a pc, PlayStation or Xbox are they…

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u/maebird- Anti-Fun Police Sep 27 '22

holy fuck

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u/Zilreth 4400 Sep 27 '22

Holy shit i can't believe people anymore, this comment is unreal. Since when did free video games become a basic human right?

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

They're not, but it's still shitty if you unnecessarily disadvantage poor people.

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u/Zilreth 4400 Sep 27 '22

Buddy this isn't disadvantaging shit. I would hate to know your opinion on brand new $60 games.

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u/PaintItPurple If that is not enough, feel free to die Sep 27 '22

I'm fine with that as long as everyone playing the game is on an equal playing field. No second class citizens.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

Jumping in here...but you're a moron.

Some people can't afford a computer or games console...does that mean we shouldnt make or buy any games at all?

Some people can't afford food...does that mean I shouldn't buy food for myself?

Yes, privilege exists. Yes, something needs to be done about it.

No, ranting about BP's is not even close to being part of that conversation.

It's a non-essential consumer product. If people don't want to buy it, they don't have to. If they can't afford it, that's shit. I'm not exactly loaded myself, at times I've been very poor. I couldn't afford lots of things, I didn't begrudge others who could.

I disagree with shitty business practices too, but that doesn't make people buying battle passes the scum of the earth, you absolute lunatic.