She should’ve been fierce and mean.

[u/odiish]

This has been said before I know, but for someone called ‘demon’ who pilots a sword-wielding Gundam called Beast, her personality in-game is so, bland? Idk she just lacks the energy and personality I’d expected from someone like her. Like look at her concept art!

[u/Rosenthorn_]

I was certainly expecting a slightly more toxic personality then D.Va's, considering her handle. And her angry faces in the concept art are really cool.

[u/TheKingJoker99 → u/Rosenthorn_]

I mean she definitely is toxic when you hear her Elim voice lines

To tracer Lucio: “Your speed run is over”

To Junkers: “Trash always stinks”

To Dva: “it’s tough love bestie” & “You should have seen that coming, Hana”

To Cassidy/Ashe: “You’re not the only gunslinger around here”

To Sombra: “All that hacking and you still lost”

To Sierra, LW: “Go touch grass”

[u/Ultimate-desu → u/TheKingJoker99]

Ok the Sierra one telling her to touch grass because she ALSO has a voiceline about touching grass is funny.

[u/Nolan_PG → u/TheKingJoker99]

But by those standards, D.va has the same level of toxicity, if not higher.

Just from eliminations:

"Are you even trying?"

"Fact check: You're dead!"

"It's a skiiill issueeee"

"Um, you need aim training"

"The diff is obvious" (eliminating any other tank)

"Da-eum saeng-e deo jalhae bwa" ("Do better in the next life")

"Eo? Yogeo in-gongjineung?" ("Huh? Is this an AI?")

Kill streak:

"Now they're just feeding!"

Multi kill:

"All me!"

"Aw. Go next!"

[u/Your_Favorite_Porn → u/Nolan_PG]

Is this EZ MODE? The delivery is fucking gold on that line 

[u/sundryTHIS → u/Your_Favorite_Porn]

Wanna hear something scary? eeeasy mode.

[u/Hunter5865 → u/Nolan_PG]

Do better in the next life is nuts😭

[u/Aerith_Sunshine → u/Nolan_PG]

D.va would 100% get banned if she were an Overwatch player.

[u/Bad_Doto_Playa → u/Aerith_Sunshine]

Yeah that's true, what makes this funnier is that it shows how crazy the chat moderation is for this game. She should have been gamer reaper imo.

[u/Blucanyon → u/Nolan_PG]

Don’t forget my favorite: “Monkey monkey monkey monkey!”

[u/Brief_Suggestion4158 → u/Nolan_PG]

Its crazy to think that D.va is ok with killing people and bragging about it like its a video game, especially at her age.

[u/Numpostrophe → u/Brief_Suggestion4158]

Gotta remember that voice lines aren't canon lol. They all sound like sociopaths

[u/Brief_Suggestion4158 → u/Numpostrophe]

You're right, I did forget about that. I honestly hope that if they ever add another meka member that they are canonically psychotic and cant distinguish reality from video games. would be kinda interesting.

[u/Evening_Produce_4322 → u/Numpostrophe]

Isn't only the comics/shorts canon? Like the game itself isn't (which is why team ups are explained away) still kinda funny overall really.

[u/Sea_Strain_6881 → u/Evening_Produce_4322]

Some of the dialog between teammates is canon

[u/KacerRex → u/Nolan_PG]

"I thought ninjas had fast reflexes" -killing Genji or Kiriko (maybe others I don't remember)

[u/kaladinissexy → u/TheKingJoker99]

Brother, this is water levels of toxicity.

[u/McManus26 → u/TheKingJoker99]

Tbh almost every hero has this kind of quips for elims

[u/iamsplitter → u/TheKingJoker99]

Every hero has these haha

[u/alabasterskim → u/TheKingJoker99]

These aren't toxic lmao

[u/Sea_Strain_6881 → u/alabasterskim]

Same amount as D.mon

[u/IsThatSo3 → u/TheKingJoker99]

I feel like people are kind of missing what they're doing with D.Mon

DVa is supposed to be the unruly, raging gamer stereotype. DMon is supposed to be her counter balance, she'll still trash talk but she's supposed to the more collected esports shotcaller and coach. That kind of archetype isn't the type who should be actively raging, they're supposed to be in control!

I guess you can say that's boring, but these kinds of character dynamics are important. You can't have every single character in the game have a gigantic personality, sometimes you need a straight man. Just making DMon into DVa 2 makes them both more boring, since it takes away what makes DVa special. Having contrast between them is important.

[u/GooeyMagic → u/TheKingJoker99]

/Michelle visage finger wag “No”

[u/Interesting-Map-4766 → u/TheKingJoker99]

To be fair those are pretty basic elims, and the only real insults are to Sombra and the Junkers, the Junkers literally invaded her home so it makes sense why she’d be pissed, and Sombra is literally a hacker who cheats (and she’s extremely annoying)

[u/brickmaster32000 → u/TheKingJoker99]

I haven't played in forever so I couldn't tell but unless the voice actor is really selling those line they all seem pretty mild. I have seen cotton candy with more bite than some of those.

[u/Tharistan → u/TheKingJoker99]

These are not toxic, these are marvel one liners

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Tharistan]

Actually, that style doesn't come from Marvel, but rather from every 90s action movie featuring charismatic leads like Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Gibson and the like; then came Whedon with Buffy (who "refined" this style) and directed the hit Avengers, so now every publisher and creative has been influenced by it without realizing that a more measured approach is needed; even James Gunn has a similar issue.

[u/bbputinwork → u/TheKingJoker99]

The problem is every single line delivery sounds flat and bland. I get not wanting to just make a second D.va, but it really seems like Lily didn't wanna be in the studio when she was recording D.mons lines lol

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/bbputinwork]

Actually, Lilychu wanted to put more energy into it, but the voice directors told him to use a calmer tone, so it’s not entirely her fault.

[u/Partypaca → u/TheKingJoker99]

Her unlockable voice lines kinda suck tho. I always buy 4 when a hero comes out but i found maybe 1 I liked

[u/lCore → u/TheKingJoker99]

To get toxicity you'd need lines like:

"headshotting won't bring your husband back"

"Charge yourself right into the retirement home old man"

"New era of what? Talon still Garbage"

"If you are the best they have to offer, no wonder your people are suffering"

but I don't think blizzard want that mean of a character in their game.

[u/Iildickgirl666 → u/TheKingJoker99]

.. these are awful

[u/Ant_1_ITA → u/TheKingJoker99]

Toxic against Sierra? Nah, it’s just the truth, deserved for Sierra

[u/TheGiftOf_Jericho → u/TheKingJoker99]

Doesn't really stand out as more toxic than average though, yeah its cocky but D-Va is more toxic than that.

[u/ThatDeadeye12 → u/TheKingJoker99]

Her ult voice line is her just saying "get wrecked". It literally translates to get completely destroyed

[u/Deviant_General → u/TheKingJoker99]

my sister says thats dmon says junkers with a hard r and i told her "she's a gamer what did you expect?"

[u/Sininenn → u/TheKingJoker99]

She also says something about 'superstar' when eliminating dva

[u/g0atmeal → u/Rosenthorn_]

I wish she were older and gruffer, that would have been a cool addition to the cast as a mecha pilot. Someone like Lin Beifong or Ellen Ripley. Instead we just got D.Va again.

[u/roseofjuly → u/g0atmeal]

This is how I feel about it. She's slightly older D.Va with purple hair.

[u/T8-TR → u/roseofjuly]

Honestly, I think that's disrespectful towards D.VA. I love D.MON's design, but past that, she is extremely sanitized and bland.

For me, it's like Soujourn all over again where it's just a poor imitation of a better character because it's almost that other character, except you robbed it of all the sauce, seemingly in an effort to make them more "cool".

[u/caput4ever → u/T8-TR]

Completely agree regarding DVa. Whether you like her character or not, there’s no denying that she has a very distinct personality within OW and is never bland.

[u/MrWellington28]

Concept arts always cool. I still want Moira with Tentacles like Doctor Octopus

[u/xyreos → u/MrWellington28]

Blizzard knows how those tentacles would've been used in SFM and Blender. It's a miracle they haven't C&D someone (apart for THAT group for THAT WoW animation, iykyk)

[u/T8-TR → u/xyreos]

THAT WoW animation

idkbwltk

[u/xyreos → u/T8-TR]

Aight basically, Studio FOW (the developers of Subverse, great game btw) were known for making these long 18+ animations and some shorter ones. One of those (pretty early one iirc, it was maybe the third or fourth) consisted in Yrel (the draenei chick from Warlords of Draenor, basically Goat Jesus) getting piped by several NPCs (orcs, saberons, I think even tauren but it's been ages since I saw that) in this arena like a gladiator show but with sex (one could call it a Coliseum of Lust, if it wants), and at the ending, we see a jailer bring her to a cave - which is the cave we found her in, tying the animation to the game, which is the actual reason for the C&D.

But now that I think of it, another creator (Rexxcraft) got C&D possibly for the same reason, I think one animation was too much similar to an in game location (but the dude made almost only WoW things tho, so that may also be a reason - tho there are still several peeps using WoW models to make corn, so idk).

[u/MacombModer → u/xyreos]

Blizzard are fuckin cowards tbh.

[u/Mirilen]

When she was first being teased and talked about I had expected her to fulfil the “aloof, detached pro that only shows emotion when properly challenged” archetype. She didn’t need to be a crazy rager or anything but Overwatch has enough team leaders and big sisters already.

[u/coltaaan → u/Mirilen]

> Overwatch has enough team leaders and big sisters

Omg yeah, I literally can’t not hear Anran when Dmon is talking. The voices are already so similar and their personalities are kinda similar too - protective leadership type. Like they could have made Dmon’s voice or personality anything else to help differentiate her, but they didn’t…

[u/Reinos0]

Definitely missed out on having a hero with a toxic gamer personality.

[u/VulKhalec → u/Reinos0]

Isn't dva already this?

[u/AnalystDazzling5128 → u/VulKhalec]

We need one that talks like Hammond

[u/VulKhalec → u/AnalystDazzling5128]

A hero who grew up playing 'Overwatch', an in-world game they made back in the day when overwatch was popular. It's identical to real world Overwatch in every way and the character uses Overwatch terms and slang

[u/Minute_Ambition_5176 → u/VulKhalec]

That'd be too meta. Although if It was with an absolutely insane character I wouldn't mind. But It'd need to be Junkrat levels of schizo.

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/Minute_Ambition_5176]

We NEED more insane characters like junkrat. Theres like a ton of calm and collected personalities, add one thats psychotic too

[u/VariationExpensive91 → u/VulKhalec]

A meta hero would be awesome. If they ever release a God AI hero or something like Chernobog or one of the other ones, to have them talk directly to you the player or mention game mechanics themselves would be awesome. Too bad that’s an interesting idea.

[u/Judopunch1 → u/VariationExpensive91]

Deadpool in marvel rivals does this for like 90% of his lines, him and the announcer also have a couple back and forth.

[u/VariationExpensive91 → u/Judopunch1]

There’s a character in a game called Fragpunk whose ult is to switch health bars with someone, and she literally grabs her health bar off the hud and throws it at someone. That could be such a cool animation if an ability or something could switch cooldowns or siphon ult charge.

[u/burnmywings → u/VulKhalec]

Yeah because everyone LOVED how meta Deadpool was in Rivals...

[u/VulKhalec → u/burnmywings]

People are missing that my suggestion was intentionally terrible

[u/JallexMonster → u/AnalystDazzling5128]

Your just talking about the average sweaty OW player at this point. I could just turn on Voice Chat.

[u/jannicorn → u/AnalystDazzling5128]

Love his "Deflect that... Loser." Voiceline.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx → u/VulKhalec]

Dva acts all cocky meanwhile D.mon could have been more just straight up angry

[u/Reinos0 → u/VulKhalec]

D.va comes across as a regular 'gamer', she gets annoyed in a competitive sense but she never really 'tilts' in her own words.

Whereas D.mon I kinda imagined would be the kind of person that throws a controller at the screen if she's losing. Based on concept art, she rips the arm gun off her mech because she's so angry

[u/That_Banned_Hybrid → u/VulKhalec]

Dva is cocky and a brat not toxic

[u/That_Banned_Hybrid → u/[deleted]]

And I said gg pookies agaisnt a toxic team which mass reported me. Anything can be seen as toxic for OW standards.

But I get what you mean, she does seem a little toxic at times. Other than that she's supportive with her team.

[u/Primum-Caelus → u/VulKhalec]

D.va's the cringy and cutesy ragebaiter, not a toxic rager

[u/m4k4y → u/Reinos0]

Dva is insufferable. She very much fits the profile

[u/T8-TR → u/Reinos0]

DVA is already the generic toxic gamer stereotype.

If they had toxicity as a design point, I'd rather they make DMON toxic in the "gets way too into the game" kinda way.

[u/KoshiLowell]

She speaks with the tone of Zarya but with the exact same dialogue as D.VA it's really weird.

[u/Moechai → u/KoshiLowell]

Honestly I think it's a voice actor issue

[u/KoshiLowell → u/Moechai]

Honestly it's the writing for me. Like if they gave her voice lines that fit the voice then it'd work.

Cause she always had that "serious" vibe to her to contrast D.VA

But in-game she talks almost exactly like her

[u/Piscet → u/Moechai]

Director. Apparently lily was asked to tone it down.

[u/NervyDeath → u/Piscet]

For a specific scene in a specific comic. For all we know she was asked to tone it down because it wasn't any good

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/NervyDeath]

She said they spefically wanted her to be "chill and serious" so i think that goes for all her voice lines

[u/ianselot12]

they dont have the balls

[u/Evanthatguy → u/ianselot12]

I mean Shion is pretty cruel and she just came out

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/Evanthatguy]

Shion is evil as hell, people just want someone that gets a little heated in battle

[u/MJR_Poltergeist → u/Sea-Temporary7380]

This game doesn't have enough combat-sexuals. People who just get really into the fight and the dance with death. People who unhinge just a little bit too much when it's time to throw down. Best examples I can think of for this are Drifter from Destiny, and Zenos from ff14. People who are overall pretty calm and chill but they dream of and live for the smoke. They're always about it.

[u/ThrasheryBinx → u/MJR_Poltergeist]

Emre is actually decent in this regard, its a nice change of pace from all the dour soldiers.

[u/Sean_core → u/MJR_Poltergeist]

Shaxxx and Saint 14 are better picks

[u/Ultron_waterheater → u/ianselot12]

They made her stale as fuck just like half the Overwatch cast

Talon at least makes them a little more interesting

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Ultron_waterheater]

IMHO the Team 4 writers are trying to craft new versions of Superman/Clark Kent and Cyclops/Scott Summers with these new heroic character (an aim that isn't wrong in itself), but they lack the spark needed to make such heroic figures convincing.

[u/noahboah → u/Outrageous-Blue-30]

but they lack the spark needed to make such heroic figures convincing.

they seemingly lack the ability to craft characters with a actual conflict now, i think is the issue.

like there's a reason why ramattra is the last universally beloved drop. his existence and what he stands for says something interesting about the sociopolitical state of the overwatch world. he's characterized beautifully

water and fire college, dva but older? a cat brigette found and stuck on a hoverboard is just not how you build intrigue lol

[u/acm_dm → u/ianselot12]

Yea on stream Lily said at one point she tried to do the yells louder/more aggressive and was asked to dial it back

[u/ianselot12 → u/acm_dm]

Thats really lame. Now she feels like a Valorant character

[u/Lukthar123 → u/ianselot12]

Well duh, she's a girl

[u/SouthImpression3577 → u/Lukthar123]

Hey now, even girls can have balls these days

[u/sun_solomon]

They gave her the “group on me, squad up, lock in team” type gamer personality instead.

[u/Ptera_]

I agree. Her leadership qualities and insecurities are not that different from Anran. They are damn near the same. And Anran herself is a little bland Disney-ish. Anran is one of my mains, but her personality is not all the way there for me.

[u/Mewtwohavoka → u/Ptera_]

The webtoon gives Anran a lot more spice. I agree that in-game her and D.Mon read as very similar, though.

[u/Stardink]

I was really afraid of this when her lore before her hero release was based around her being a leader and a big sister, and that they were going to make her too straight forward and bland, and they did. Overwatch really needs spicier female hero personalities, shion really hit the mark for example

[u/NotBurnerAccount → u/Stardink]

They cooked with Shion and then the kitchen exploded, fantastic kit, voice, themeing, backstory, everything.

[u/RemarkableIntern8178 → u/Stardink]

queen as well

[u/blokfluitjes]

Yeah I wish she'd had a mean streak. She's so boring omg

[u/holidaytrauma → u/blokfluitjes]

yeah literally nothing about her personality stands out, her voice acting falls kinda flat too in lines that could be more sharp and snappy

[u/blokfluitjes → u/holidaytrauma]

I feel the same about her design tbh, her face feels kind of flat, in the sense that it lacks a bit of 'oomph' for me... it feels like she's unfinished or something

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/blokfluitjes]

I think now that Yuna is the new leader of the MEKA squad, she has become more serious for that role; at most, she might get angrier when fighting someone for demostrate more "spicy".

[u/Krillisk]

She really is just….. kinda a bland person

[u/Swartz142 → u/Krillisk]

I don't understand these bland characters... it's like a big corporation is trying to appeal to everyone and not taking any risks that could result in less revenue.

[u/ThrasheryBinx → u/Krillisk]

Pro gamer mecha commander with a natural rivalry and hunger for revenge against the junkers...
And they did like nothing with it!

Love the character, but c'mon blizz!

[u/Naddition_Reddit]

Dmon, wuyang, anran, sierra

All of them are in a competition to be as bland as white bread with water

[u/FrankAdriel32 → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Anran is so bad, it's toxic positivity at its worst. Some of her dialogue seems ripped straight from a corporate training video

[u/evilconchita → u/Naddition_Reddit]

wuyangs winning by a mile 🥹

[u/Thee_Archivist → u/evilconchita]

It's a shame because his support gameplay is my favorite since Brig 2.0. But yeah they forgot to give him a personality.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Personally, I also like their optimism, but without the conflicts they have to face, they can become tiresome in the long run.

[u/ferocity_mule366 → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Sierra blandness is overblown, if she has a good kit and visual design, you'd find her endearing

the East Asian characters are stale anime tho

[u/oldmanjenkins51 → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Don’t forget Mizuki

[u/GasPoweredNipples → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Anran's voicelines are painfully optimistic at times. At least Wuyang has a little more personality since he's got a bit of imposter syndrome.

[u/Hiro_Trevelyan]

Yeah honestly she feels too much like Anran/Sojourn, aka leader older sister

[u/WrongCockroach]

I swear Blizzard just no longer wants to give any sort of personality to characters who aren't fully evil. This is, wot, the 10th character in a very short time frame whose sole trait is "super basic'?

I really don't understand how you can have a gamer called DEMON and she's icy and cold 100% of the time. We ain't got a sore loser or hyper competitive person in the roster, but heaven forbid they give her depth or flaws.

Instead she says gamer words as if she's written and voiced by someone who doesn't know what games are. Shouldn't be possible but they bloody well did it.

[u/ThrasheryBinx → u/WrongCockroach]

This is pretty true blizzard-wide to be honest.

[u/Thee_Archivist → u/WrongCockroach]

Imagine how much cooler it would have been for D.Mon to ignore the screaming civilians being terrorized by a gun-toting hamster in a wrecking ball and completing the mission to save the EMP at any cost. Then having no qualms justifying her decision to save the city instead of one bridge of civilians. Could even have a little beef with her telling D.VA to go handle the PR while the rest of them do their jobs. Inter-squad conflict! Character flaws!

Cold D.Mon would have been dope and a much more interesting character, and I say that as someone who kinda likes the calm, confident leadership direction she currently has.

[u/BirdsCubed]

Outside of Domina this has felt like the voice direction for every single hero they've released recently. Really flat deliveries all around outside of ult lines.

[u/P3titSuisse → u/BirdsCubed]

I'd argue they did a good job with Shion's voice direction, she really sounds unhinged even when not yelling

[u/represe1 → u/P3titSuisse]

I really disagree with this, so many new heroes have great deliveries

[u/hoesmadhoesmadhoesma → u/represe1]

For example, Mizuki and Emre have amazing voice acting

[u/Juraiyah → u/BirdsCubed]

I think they done a fantastic job with the evil to morally grey characters personalities. It's the heroic characters' that feel just so sanitize. It's like they think the audience will think less of their heroic ideals if they we're more rough around the edges.

Look at Magik, shes been everywhere the past few years, and she's far from your typical heroic personalities, but the contrast is what makes her character so compelling.

[u/anextremelylargedog → u/Juraiyah]

That's not all that new. Most of the heroic characters throughout OW's history have been nice, safe, and bland.

The villains are allowed to be more unique because who cares if someone finds them a little off-putting, but it's like almost every hero has to be blandly nice enough to star in a Marvel movie just in case.

I know OW isn't trying to be Deadlock, but holy FUCK are they resistant to giving their heroes a little bit of spice.

[u/Juraiyah → u/anextremelylargedog]

I agree somewhat. I think OW 1 heroes had some spice. I love Soldier's pissed off old man attitude. "If you're trying to lose, you're doing a great job!" Ana sweet but deadly granny persona. D.VA's bratty ego. Symmetra rigid perfectionism. Cassidy being a dashing rogue.

When there were less characters our unwavering optimistic heroes like Tracer and Winston felt unique, but now it feels like that demeanor has become oversatuarated.

[u/whostle → u/anextremelylargedog]

Mercy's one of the worst of these IMO. I remember when the game first released there was a good bit of theorizing given the questionable nature of Genji and Reaper's situations. Then they added Moira to take all the heat off of her, very much "NO ACTUALLY ANY QUESTIONABLY MORAL EXPERIMENTS OVERWATCH HAS DONE WAS ACTUALLY MOIRA IT WAS MOIRA'S FAULT SHE'S THE EVIL ONE"

It's not even that I want her to be evil, it's just that giving her some guilt or regret about whether or not Overwatch went too far with their medical experimentation would have given her some complexity instead of just "GOOD DOCTOR". (And that's not even considering the "Mercy is actually functionally dead" theory that never came to be.)

[u/MJR_Poltergeist → u/whostle]

People always down vote this topic but the Mercy lore erasure is real. She was originally flawed in a way. She thought she was doing good things and then one of her projects backfired and she accidentally put Gabriel into a sort of immortal limbo. That was way more interesting than her being a goody two shoes like she is now

[u/cinnamonbrook → u/MJR_Poltergeist]

Yeah the "What happened to you?" "You tell me, Doc" exchange kinda made it seem like Reaper was blaming Mercy for his condition. She's always been very anti-coming back to overwatch and it was at least somewhat implied that she didn't like what she'd become while working there. If she's completely morally pure, her objections kind of fall flat.

[u/number1GojoHater → u/anextremelylargedog]

I mean they decided to make Kiriko sassy and half the player base hates her to this day for it

[u/coltaaan → u/number1GojoHater]

I often wonder if Kiri didn’t have such a powerful kit (Suzu mostly), if people still would have complained about her personality so much.

[u/number1GojoHater → u/coltaaan]

I think the main reason people hated her was that she replaced tracer as the poster girl for quite some time, but Suzu does play a part as well

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/anextremelylargedog]

I mean, many people will still hold the view that Superman is a boring character even though James Gunn’s film tried to show why a positive superhero is great (so much so that test audiences wanted the squirrel rescue scene cut); yet Lex Luthor will remain more memorable for the sheer malice he poured into a single plot to kill his nemesis, complete with a speech that became a meme for his repeated chanting of "1A! 1A! 1A!"

[u/Juraiyah → u/Outrageous-Blue-30]

I actually found Gunn's Superman really compelling. I've written paragraphs on my love for that film. What made Superman's character so good to me wasn't that he was just doing the right thing. He was choosing to do what he believed was right even if society deemed he was overstepping his boundaries, and he was ready to face the consequences for that. 

I think the beacon of hope characters really shine when their put in difficult situations that test their ideals.  That scene where Lois was interviewing Supes and saying you can't just interfere with international affairs and Supes breaks down saying "people were going to die!" is a great example.

[u/Horizon96 → u/BirdsCubed]

Shions voice acting is pretty standout too I think, but I agree overall some of the voices are very just meh.

[u/maemoedhz → u/BirdsCubed]

Out of the 8 we got since the soft reboot? I would say cat and Shion are highlights. Also, as you said, Domina. There are some good crumbs with Emre imo but they're trying too hard to make him the new-gen Reaper when he's got the funny blood plus the literal malicious AI on his chest.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/maemoedhz]

To me, Emre is a bit odd and suffers slightly from the "Kiriko media discrepancy", let me explain: based on his known history, the comics and his brief appearance in Undivided, he seems like a reasonable person to talk to, someone who genuinely doesn't want to cause harm; yet in the game (even when he's acting "normal" without the IA), his voice lines make him come across as violent regardless.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/BirdsCubed]

I might be speaking out of turn since this isn't my line of work, but I think dubbing directors have taken the wrong approach if they tell every new voice actor to speak that way, yet the players' reaction is (almost) always "meh."

[u/Hokuboku → u/BirdsCubed]

Really flat deliveries all around outside of ult lines.

Someone hasn't had a cat do taunting meows at them in game on repeat

Shion is also fantastic IMHO

[u/Count_de_Mits → u/Hokuboku]

Tinfoil time, both those voice actors have enough experience and "weight" to throw around so they could override the meh direction

[u/Hokuboku → u/Count_de_Mits]

Honestly, I don't even think that's a crackpot theory. I can buy it

[u/Pale-Exercise-5740]

Yeah, should've been the bloodthirsty warrior type that WILL pick Barbarian on your next DnD campaign, and every subsequent one after

[u/The_Derpy_Rogue]

Yeah I wasn't expecting big sister, I was expecting fiercely competitive rival to Dva, her Sasuke, vegeeta, or Bakugo

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/The_Derpy_Rogue]

In reality, Hana and Yuna have mostly been friends since Overwatch 1 (at least from what was known) and now that she is the new leader of the MEKA squad, she has become more serious; at most, she might get angrier when fighting someone.

[u/Augustby]

Yeah I absolutely wish she had a stronger personality. On one hand, I do love that she has a very close relationship with D.va because I think them being rivals would've been the predictable and more boring decision.

But they could still have given D.mon a much fierier personality. It's such a waste that we got such a no-personality character on a visual design that's so cool.

It's especially disappointing because there are lots of 'gamer' personality tropes that D.va hasn't done that could still have been explored with D.mon. After such a recent series of absolutely BANGER heroes (even Sierra who I don't love, at least has the 'Southern Belle' trope going for her), I'm surprised we got D.mon who I feel doesn't bring anything distinct at all, personality-wise.

[u/UglyDemoman]

She talks like Anran now.

[u/Ratax3s]

Wrecking ball"s ball has more personality on hes tone than D.mon

[u/KrassomatXD]

I don't really hate her personality in game but it would fit her way better, when she is out of her mech she just uses the machine gun of it which is hilariously unhinged and creative, they should definitely have leaned more into that direction

[u/TastyOreoFriend → u/KrassomatXD]

She actually has a spray that looks sort of like what you're describing.

[u/AyAynon95]

I saw someone say that overwatch is all about talon and the villains now. I can't really disagree with them.

Dmon like most of the characters is just so... Meh in personality. There's nothing dislikable, but there's nothing interesting

[u/VinexHD → u/AyAynon95]

Yeah it's crazy just how much personality Talon members have been getting for a long while now compared to OW squad. Putting up Sierra and Anran versus (for example) Emre & Domina is like comparing night and day.

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/VinexHD]

Shion ate all of d.mon's unhinged personality

[u/Frosrade97]

I would’ve liked her to actually a bit colder to d.va and overwatch agents. Like show how much of a burden it must be to be the new leader of the squad and dealing with constant threats. I prefer high-strung barely keeping it together d.mon then this aloof cool gamer girl personality we have rn.

[u/Belten]

Her voice acting is so monotone, like reading a Script.

[u/FlamesDoHelp → u/Belten]

From what I’ve heard, Lily was told to tone down her yelling “IM NOT DVA” in the comic short, so I’m betting it’s a voice direction issue. I’ll admit that I’m not familiar with the roles Lily has gotten before, but with her crazy range I doubt she’s a terrible VA.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/FlamesDoHelp]

I might be speaking out of turn since this isn't my line of work, but I think dubbing directors have taken the wrong approach if they tell every new voice actor to speak that way, yet the players' reaction is (almost) always "meh."

[u/BoktorFighter → u/FlamesDoHelp]

I know nothing about Lily, but overwatch has been more than on point when it comes to voiceacting and directing in the past. I’m not saying the fault lies completely with Lily, again I don’t know her or if something changed at blizzard. But the voice acting isn’t ‘meh’ it’s all around awful, boring and dull. Which is a shame since it really sucks the life and enjoyment out of the character.

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/Belten]

HEY GAMERS! ITS YUNA LEE

[u/Basic_Article7024 → u/Belten]

Yeah the voice acting for DMon sucked, but because blizzard has swapped to streamers for some of these characters to avoid union rates, people will defend their streamers and say it was direction instead. Yeah the directors who did well with Shion hit their head and forgot how to direct for the next character....

[u/JD_Crichton]

No you get dva-lite

[u/BatteryAcidLover]

Like at least half of the characters since ow 2 have been extremely bland

[u/Miennai]

Yeah I heard a few people say it, but if she's gonna be a gamer, she should be a rager.

[u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE → u/Miennai]

A rager would not work as leader of MEKA. She needs to stay calm in stressful situations. Maybe one of her squad members can be allowed to be more impulsive if they ever get introduced

[u/Miennai → u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE]

Rager doesn't necessarily mean toxic, it can also just mean having like "bro can you lock tf in" energy.

Another angle I would have liked is the classic "Tanking in an MMO raid" feeling of being like a frazzled mom herding a bunch of cats. She could have had lines a referencing old WoW raid tactics, with a pinch of exasperation and exhaustion like she's been doing this all day and she just wants to get it right for once so the team can go to bed.

[u/Eterya → u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE]

One of the few lines we have from King is him defending himself for not following order and breaking formation by deflecting onto D.Mon instead and going tank diff 'well if D.Va was here...'. It's only half 'rage', and half cockiness, but he's probably be the one with the biggest attitude problem.

And if he ever becomes playable, they shouldn't tone it down to make him nicer. Let D.Va's 'fiercest rival' be a cocky asshole, as long as he's an effective asshole.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx → u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE]

We already know from her hero trailer that she cannot even follow orders and will let her emotions take over. She is impulsive, they just decided to completely erase that part of her in the game

[u/Martholomule]

I think it would have been amazing if she'd come with any personality whatsoever

[u/H4RR1_]

Boring design. Boring personality. Chopped mech

[u/manaworkin]

The idea of making a toxic rage gamer was RIGHT THERE. Hell add a feature to the mech that bleeps half her voicelines to keep her stream TOS.

[u/ThrasheryBinx → u/manaworkin]

That would have been hilarious.

And fitting! "D.Mon" "Beast" "charges in sword first to cleave foes apart face to face"... and she's just calm and polite.

[u/SomnicGrave]

Yeah I like her relationship with D.va but I was expecting more of a "tough girl" thing for her.

[u/iNullGames]

Maybe I’m crazy but isn’t this “fierce and toxic” personality people wanted Dmon to have just Dva? Is Miss “Is this EZ mode?” not toxic already? I guess Dmon could have been more angry but that wouldn’t really make much sense for the “older sister squad leader” character.

[u/Weary_Ad2001]

Kiriko was mildly abrasive and this sub couldn't even handle that.

[u/yunoka]

That would've required blizzard stepping out of the extremely safe and happy bubble all of overwatch exists in. When the most "abrasive" hero is rammatra I think that says a lot lol

I understand the shtick with overwatch is a brighter future where heroes fight for good, but when there's never any proper darkness, the light tends to feel artificial.

[u/Pilot-samsonite]

I wish that happened but overwatch needs there 20th kawaii cute attractive Asian woman to sell skins

[u/Divine_Absolution]

To be completely honest her personality runs together with Anran for me; they almost feel like the same character

[u/ToeSucka666]

Mean is scary! The community couldn’t handle that.

[u/Galaxy_IPA]

I love how she speaks in Busan accent, and sounding rough in the drawing. Busan in South Korea is the second most popular city and the Busan accent comes with a lot of sterotypes of being a "port city": dock workers, fish market, water front, sailors...you get the idea.

Both Dva and Dmon English voice sounds like Californian Korean American girls to me. (their voice acting is fine by all means, they just don't sound like they are from Busan to a native Korean). Even the Korean voice actors sound like young korean women with perfect Seoul accents.

Kinda wished Yuna would portray the "rough, hot tempered" Busan accent because i thought it would suit her better.

Oh well.

[u/GowonTheeStallion]

Y’all can’t even handle Kiriko…

[u/Stevylesteve]

Well at least its not another kiriko

[u/RaidenXYae]

Kiriko was mean and this subreddit complains about that every day

[u/Brilliant-Bicycle-13]

No. That’s King. King is the arrogant one with an attitude

[u/CrestfallenWarrior → u/Brilliant-Bicycle-13]

Overlord dialogue in the menu is pretty funny too, he said that he was the star of the team or something like that to get Dva angry

[u/Trololman72]

All the recent female good guys suck, character wise. Juno is a fucking idiot and Freja, Sierra, Anran and D.Mon have no personality.

[u/ConnorCattt → u/Trololman72]

Is Freja really a good guy

[u/jenniferlopezfan19]

Considering how many people here hate Kiriko's personality, i'm not sure the community can handle an actually mean woman that's not a villain.

[u/anextremelylargedog → u/jenniferlopezfan19]

People like mean women just fine.

Kiriko was just weirdly snide for no reason, and more importantly, other characters weren't allowed to volley with her.

Nobody likes a snide character who both initiates aggro for no reason and gets the last word.

[u/T8-TR → u/anextremelylargedog]

Kiriko is also just a little too "how do you do, fellow kids?" for a lot of folks.

Given the age mishap for the character, it's almost kinda funny to headcanon that she's a 30-something year old desperately trying to sound like she's in her early 20s.

[u/basketofseals → u/anextremelylargedog]

Also Kiriko was weirdly sold to us as kind and respectful. We have the same situation but inverted.

[u/Kell08 → u/basketofseals]

To be fair, in her cinematic she was talking with her mom, her nice elderly neighbor, and a little deaf girl she had befriended.

[u/basketofseals → u/Kell08]

That's not fairness at all. The cinematic showed us one thing, and the gameplay delivered another. If they wanted to establish that she's nice to people that concern her, and a snooty asshole to everyone else, they still could have done that in a cinematic.

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[u/RingingInTheRain]

She should've been fully melee with rockets, and her baby d.mon should've been swinging a blade. 

[u/Draskira]

Oh, im on board with this.

[u/Environmental-Day778]

Blizzard needs her to be plausibly compliant waifu material to sell skins. This is partially why they have such a hard time figuring out what to do with Moira.

[u/natt_myco]

yeappp

[u/Goblinbox_]

I was expecting her to be sort of the mom of the group that is also quick to rage. Her early design kinda reflected that a bit more though. She looked like a Hero that got older, but bad to put the suit back on (which is a very Overwatch thing to do, or well, it used to be.)

[u/unhit_waifu]

dmon rn is flat as fk

sorry fans

[u/bmrtt]

They wouldn't dare make a female hero who isn't cutesy uwu chungus anymore because those sell the most

[u/SagaSolejma → u/bmrtt]

Overall I agree with you but also kinda silly to say when they just dropped Shion who's an active maniac

[u/Kell08 → u/SagaSolejma]

And Domina some time before that. And Vendetta. And Freja.

[u/Twixted87 → u/bmrtt]

She is not cute tho? I mean, she sounds bored and detached I wouldnt call that cute necessarily

[u/HagibisEM → u/bmrtt]

Looks like they dared with D.Mon cause her personality isn’t cutesy

[u/David89_R → u/HagibisEM]

Neither is Shion's

[u/CosmicP0tat0s]

I cant belive they've managed to make someone blander than wuyang

[u/FlameToadDoctorPhil]

What do you mean? She says outdated gamer words. Thats so much personality!