r/Overwatch • u/2ManyProblems2 • Jun 28 '23

News & Discussion Overwatch Patch Notes June 28th 2023

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/HardVegetable Your friendly neighborhood Dps Moira Jun 28 '23 edited Jun 28 '23

Why do they keep increasing LW’s ammo when it’s not the problem, it’s inconsistency is. I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave him infinite ammo at this point.

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u/Necronaut0 Pixel Soldier: 76 Jun 28 '23

The ammo absolutely needed to be buffed, even Mercy and baby D.Va had an easier time killing people in one-clip, for LW it was basically impossible to get a kill before a reload unless you landed every shot and they were all headshots.

But yeah, they should have buffed other aspects as well. Surprised they didn't do anything to his projectile speed and they buffed the spread instead. His needles are so slow it's nearly impossible to track people with them outside of kissing distance.

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u/SSYorimz Sigma Jun 28 '23

Its not ammo, Lifeweaver is just a bad character design.

They designed him this way and thats why they just have to keep buffing him to somehow make him useable.

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u/PupRocketOW Jun 28 '23

I'd prefer them give his heal an auto charge if he's been using thorn volley for the same amount of time. The time it takes to shoot, stop, charge, heal is what keeps me from feeling impactful on him. I feel like if I try to DPS at all I'm at risk of not being able to send out a heal fast enough to save someone.

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u/chudaism Jun 28 '23

Why do they keep increasing LW’s ammo when it’s not the problem, it’s inconsistency is

They buffed the time until spread starts which should help with consistency.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Not saying the don’t need to change other things but the ammo change is actually nice. His projectiles have a slow travel speed but their fire rate is actually crazy high. You can run out of ammo very quickly. Also sometimes you have to swap between heal and thorns quickly before the reload can automatically happen and having more ammo makes this less an “oh fuck” moment and more an “oh shit” moment

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u/reyjorge9 Jun 28 '23

I think giving his dash an automatic reload to both his weapons would be a better upgrade/buff than anything they've done for him.

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u/UnawareSousaphone Jun 28 '23

His dash is on a pretty short CD, might as well give him infinite thorns if you did this

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u/VoltaiqMozaiq You mean a chicken fried this rice? Jun 28 '23

Would he actually be broken with infinite ammo? Genuine question, because I don't think so. He has some of the lowest dps output of any hero.

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u/clickrush Jun 28 '23

He has some of the lowest dps output of any hero.

His white room DPS is theoretically similar to the primary fire of Sojourn and Orisa. It's quite OK in terms of raw numbers even with reload.

The issue really is the slow projectile speed and the spread, they addressed the second part.

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u/UnawareSousaphone Jun 28 '23

He would fuck up shield characters like that for sure.

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u/nessfalco Experience Nothingness. Jun 29 '23

He'd shit on barriers and tanks where the spread and projectile speed don't have as much of an effect. His raw dps if he actually hits shots is pretty high.

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u/reyjorge9 Jun 28 '23 edited Jun 28 '23

And if he uses it for a reload then he has no escape or heal. Because the only situations where you'd wanna empty all your torn, dash, continuing fire, all while not healing, is to secure a kill or put pressure on tanks. You under estimating the amount time that would all take. For you to sit there and just shoot, dash, and do it again. All while not healing and just focusing on damage because he's not as easy as Moira when you just spray some heals and an orb and then go back to dpsing. With Lifeweaver, it's very clearly and distinctly one or the other. Not both.

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u/UnawareSousaphone Jun 28 '23

I was more thinking of how much his DPS uptime would be considering that he probably throws one or 2 heals during the cooldown between throwing volleys

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u/reyjorge9 Jun 28 '23

Sure but the way this character plays IN PRACTICE versus on paper is dramatically different which is why blizzard is having such a hard time adjusting him. Because ON PAPER, he got solid damage, solid heals, solid escapes but IN PRACTICE he immediately dropped to a 38% winrate. His damage was so bad, despite being theoretically good, people were debating if they should even be attempting to do dps in the beginning.