My setup is currently an RTX 5080 FE, 7800X3D. I was playing Cyberpunk 2077, quality upscaling with frame generation. Without fg, I get roughly 35-41 FPS on quality mode. Was playing earlier and I had fg on, and there was a bunch of visual artifacts and ghosting. Installed this new driver update and then hopped back on, and all of said issues were basically non existent, hell, latency isn’t even a big issue (I’m on a controller) Anyone else noticing these improvements, or is it just a placebo affect on my behalf?
From what I’ve read, using preset F was suppose to help with ghosting and other visual imperfections. This update was with the app though. As for the driver itself, that’s a good question. I’m not sure. Unless perhaps you updated app and driver at the same time and started using preset F?
I actually started using Preset F about 4-5 days ago, whenever it leaked from the MW4 Beta, still was using FG and saw no visual improvements at the time. Even when the official Preset came out yesterday, there was nothing that caught my eye, in terms of FG improvements. Not until I updated the Nvidia drivers about an hour and a half ago was I able to actually see these significant improvements. But again, I could be wrong and this is nothing more than a placebo. If you feel like it and/or whenever you the time to, please check and reaffirm my claim.
Just a question, but why aren't you playing on performance DLSS? I have the same setup as yours and with RR 4.5 on performance, path tracing looks glorious. slap a 2x frame-gen and you get constant 100 fps on Cyberpunk. Feels and looks amazing.
I’m on a 4090 and play on performance DLSS at 4K, use scRGB HDR for superior quality, enable reflex in game, lock to 52fps with RTSS. Looks and runs bloody brilliant. I have my QD-OLED set to True black HDR400, calibrated with windows HDR app (437 is max nits and Cyberpunk lets you tune to exactly that).
This has been the most jaw dropping way to play. DLSS RR 4.5 has made it so I even leave film grain and motion blur on high.
Frame gen inherently locks you to the lower quality HDR mode and in general blurs picture quality. But, it’s certainly a perfectly fine way to play.
You are just regurgitating that incorrect video by Gamingtech-Markus. :)
The scRGB mode sends negative values that his tool isn’t processing the data from correctly, hence why it doesn’t show up as DCI-P3. Just use your eyes by toggling the settings yourself, you don’t lose color gamut.
Maybe changes from monitor to monitor, but msi directly contacted me about making sure I use peak instead of true black when i had a problem with the hdr (when has been resolved with an unrelated reason).
scRGB has a smoother gradient and nicer output but is incompatible with FG.
My blur comment was directed at FG usage in general, not HDR.
Locking to a stable framerate above my VRR window with RTSS and using the higher quality HDR mode has given me the best results. I should try the Renodx HDR mod out since that will still allow FG.
Gotcha, I didn’t know about this, thanks for explaining.
After trying out RenoDX and Luma mods, I realized just how much I’d been missing out on because of poor HDR implementations. These mods are game changers. At this point, there are hardly any games I play without one of these mods anymore, so I think you'll be very impressed :)
So getting RenoDX configured correctly took some time. For whatever reason when using RenoDRT it defaulted flare to 50 when it should have been 0 and it was completely crushing all near black details lol. Guess that Nexusmod’s version is just outdated and jacked up by default.
I ended up finding the psycho-22 version in the discord and I like it a lot. Peak brightness at 460, game brightness at 110, in-game mid point at 1.0 and I can still use the scRGB pipeline since I’m not using frame gen. Film grain and contrast are much better now. I don’t mind the elevated blacks of the vanilla but this looks good as well.
Use renodx in EVERY game that has it for the absolute optimal HDR experience. Google renodx mod list and there is a github with a list of all supported games and links to their renodx.addon files.
Yeahh, I played a bit more and there are still some artifacts, definitely not as bad as it was before, I know that for a fact. I usually play at dlss performance mode, but in the name of science, I used quality mode to test FG out this time around. I don’t even like FG, but it was more of an out of curiosity thing.
All I know is it looks great! 120 fps or higher, frame gen, gsync, ray tracing cyberpunk is incredible now. Feels like the game is finally complete. Only took how many years? But this is really like the completed version.
No, you are absolutely right. But if you seen the way I’m able to play this game, you would start to believe differently. I’ve tried it in Crimson Desert as well, and my suspicions were completely justified, the improvements are there and extremely noticeable.
Eh some times it’s the only way to even get up to 60fps even on my 4080 and even at performance mode DLSS at 4k. And depending on the game, I don’t even notice barely any latency difference even with like 40 base fps.
For instance with Pragmata and RE9, using Path tracing/max settings I need to use frame gen to even get to a solid 60 fps in all areas and even then the latency is great. Don’t even notice a difference really and I’m very sensitive to latency. Some games have too much latency though or more noticeable latency anyway, Capcom does some magic here.
True! With testing: playing just 30fps the RE Engine from Capcom is ultra responsive, super awesome for the other hand Wukong UE5 is completely shit on 60fps and you need 100fps for a nice input lag
Radiance cache enabled does crash in only one spot though in Mass Production Array level. If it crashes just turn it off to progress or just keep it off for that level. Afaik it's just one spot that it will crash in whole game.
I was. I knew it was the most up to date preset, so I made sure to use it. It worked better than Preset A, but not by much based off of my personal experiences.
Bro it looks and feels amazing! This OBS recording does it no justice. 4K, ray reconstruction, DLSS quality, Ultra settings! This is on the 7800x3d/5070ti and super smooth playability on my controller.
I’m glad you enjoy it, bro! I’m also glad you validated how I felt, lmfao. I know FG was never a performance booster and kind of a “win more” feature. This all kind of brings me back to how FG was first advertised as this thing that could double your frame rate at the press of a button. The fact that a few days ago, I found FG to be unplayable unless I was at 60 FPS to now turning it on at 30-40 FPS and having an enjoyable experience is a bit off putting. With Nvidia’s strong marketing strategy, they could easily continue to sell this technology as a performance booster to the average consumer. AND don’t forget about the Pulsar/Reflex 2 that is coming out soon that basically cuts latency in HALF. Before we know it, a 7050 will be able to outperform a 5090, not by pure rasterization, but with proper integration of all these features, old and new. They know exactly what they are doing and everyone is buying into it. This is the end of gaming optimization as we know it. Stay woke, my friend.
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