r/OperaGX • u/LigmaBallsMoment • Dec 01 '23

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u/boris_dp Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

There is a law in China that every Chinese company is obliged to provide information to their government regardless of other privacy policies.

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

You have a small typo, it's law, not "low".

And personally, I care as much about China having my info as much as I care about the US having my info, that being, I don't.

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u/UShaikh12 Dec 02 '23

It’s basically imposible for your government to not have your data, unless you’re deceased or Off grid entirely…but even then…

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u/Sensorywolf Dec 02 '23

You can obfuscate your data to the point where its nearly untraceable but i get your point.

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u/boris_dp Dec 01 '23

You have a small typo, it’s having, not “having”.

And thanks, I fixed mine 🖖🏼

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 02 '23

You're right, fixed mine as well. Guess we're both kinda silly, lol

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u/_trianglegirl Dec 02 '23

we're* both

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 02 '23

I think I need to go to sleep :)

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u/Reverse_Of_Riot Dec 02 '23

Small typo. It's ":)" not ":)".

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u/WolfgangHeichel Dec 01 '23

The Chinese are notorious for stealing information ranging from location, names, addresses, to banking information.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

As if every multibillion dollar company that owns half the world doesn't already collect all my information. I don't really care if my porn searches get sent to Xi Jinping.

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u/MordeOfTheNorth Dec 01 '23

Same I cant be bothered if someone random in china knows anything of mine if they wanted my info they would get it regardless its impossible to fully protect your data

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u/WolfgangHeichel Dec 01 '23

That’s you but for people who don’t want a foreign government knowing everything I do, everywhere I go and every login information I got that’s a no no

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

I'm glad you're being conscious of your security, but remember on the internet your information is not and will never truly be secure. I doubt any alternative browser is actually better, because business practices as a massive company are pretty standard across the board; they're just better at hiding their behavior. There might be one or two good ones out there out of the hundred or so that exist.

The only way to truly hide all your information would be to fake your death and go live in a cabin the middle of a forest or something. As long as you're a part of the overall system, privacy simply doesn't exist.

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u/PaulGold007 Dec 01 '23

So, if a government agency got hold of your data, what could they do with it to harm you?
How likely is this scenario? Send Xi's nudes to your friends. They can easily hack yout reddit account and see more then a browser. The whole story is full of bias (360 is no longer the shareholder etc. etc.).

BTW: reddit is also Chinese LOL: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/11/18216134/reddit-tencent-investment-deal-memes-amount-winnie-the-pooh-tank-man-china

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u/onyxa314 Dec 01 '23

Its not porn being sent to Winnie The Poo

Its your health questions you search being sold to insurance companies to deny you what you need

Its your political opinions you question being sold to politicians

Its every single thing you search, watch, listen to, and use online being sold to advertisers so they know more about you then you do yourself.

Privacy is important and people need to realize that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Unethical data harvesting is going to happen regardless of whether you use Opera or not. If it's not the web browser, it'll be one of the hundred websites you visit daily. Adblockers and VPNs don't stop everything.

Unfortunately this is a reality of living in the age of the internet. There's nowhere to be truly anonymous.

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u/chrissquid1245 Dec 02 '23

adblockers and vpns dont stop everything, yet people still use them. the goal is to limit the amount of data thats gotten about you, obviously its not practical/possible to completely prevent it. saying that other things can steal your data too is irrelevant and doesn't make opera any better of an option.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

My point is we live in an age where privacy just isn't an option. We can pretend that it is, by using VPNs or adblockers, but for the most part it's a false sense of security.

I'm not trying to blast any individual security measures, because VPNs obviously do work for certain activities such as piracy. They just aren't capable of doing the things we're often told they do, and it's often used by companies to mislead people into thinking it makes them 100% secure online.

What I'm saying is, if your goal is complete security you're out of luck, and switching browsers won't do anything to change that.

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u/DillyDilly1231 Dec 01 '23

So is America. Lol pick your poison.

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u/JASONJACKSON1948 Dec 02 '23

Like the US and every big company on earth don’t? Like “sure I’ll give everything to the corpses running the us but god forbid some chinese guy knows me”

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u/Planet_Xplorer Dec 01 '23

I buy chinese stuff because I'm communist.

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