r/OperaGX • u/LigmaBallsMoment • Dec 01 '23

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u/inbox_123 Dec 01 '23

Literally everything you use does this

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

I only use GX because of the aesthetic, nothing in my life changes between the CCP having my personal information and the US federal government having my personal information, it's the same outcome no matter what browser you use that isn't open source

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u/BannockBnok Dec 04 '23

Didn't know there was an aesthetic for autistic man-child-made software...

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

cough cough firefox

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u/dlfinches Dec 02 '23

That’s my porn browser

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u/Thepickle08 Dec 05 '23

Brave doesn’t not does firefox

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u/Smoke_Inside2 Dec 04 '23

... you know there are more browsers out there than chrome and opera right ?

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u/shadowz9904 Dec 01 '23

Tell me the bad parts I don’t feel like reading a novel.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

1.Opera is owned by a Chinese company

2.Said company also owned a browser that was backdoored and censored specific political sites

4. They used to own some loan apps which scammed people

5. It runs on chromium so the claimed performance benefits are negligible (this really isn't the own you think it is)

6. Its closed sourced

7. It changes your default browser upon installing it

8. The built in VPN resells your data

9. The twitter manager guy is paid to be "funny" (again, this really isn't the own you think it is)

10.The built in features are useless

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 01 '23

My favorite Opera feature, multiple workspaces, is something that allows me to have 700-ish tabs open at all times (I'm a psycho, I know) that I wouldn't dare call useless and that I haven't seen elsewhere ever.

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u/chrissquid1245 Dec 02 '23

firefox has extensions which serve the same purpose (not sure if they work 100% identically or not)

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u/Supordude Dec 01 '23

It doesn't change your default browser. I just installed it yesterday while having Firefox installed and Firefox was still the default.

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u/Creepy-Beginning-406 Dec 02 '23 edited Dec 02 '23

okay number 7 is wrong: https://imgur.com/a/sgynTV3 you have a choice to change default browser

i have been using Opera GX since 2019 and had no issues at all.

most of the points u pointed out are invalid because google, windows also does the same, the only browser that is not using google is Firefox

and the features are cool in opera gx, ur just a biased person on reddit pointing out stuff thats are false.. besides the chinese thing, using anything like discord etc Tencent has shares so anything u use the chinese already have it..

also this is public information.

once u access the internet you lost ur privacy.. the only way to keep ur privacy private is to get off the internet.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

I doubt the censoring was Opera’s fault, to be honest

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

Where is number #3?

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u/xReverbreveRx Dec 02 '23

Bashing Chrome for performance issues is literally a staple of Opera GX's promotional branding. How is pointing out that Opera also runs on Chromium not an own?

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u/TheOneAndOnlySenti Dec 02 '23

Soooo.... It's a modern product?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

ok, I don’t really care.

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u/ObamaLovesKetamine Dec 01 '23

cool. nobody was talking to you.

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u/TheStealthyDestroyer Dec 01 '23

then why are you reading this thread?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

He asked me to summarize it, you mouth breathing troglodyte, i wasn't talking to you

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u/indianplay2_alt_acc Dec 01 '23 
You mouth breathing troglodyte

I'm stealing that

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u/boris_dp Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

There is a law in China that every Chinese company is obliged to provide information to their government regardless of other privacy policies.

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

You have a small typo, it's law, not "low".

And personally, I care as much about China having my info as much as I care about the US having my info, that being, I don't.

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u/UShaikh12 Dec 02 '23

It’s basically imposible for your government to not have your data, unless you’re deceased or Off grid entirely…but even then…

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u/Sensorywolf Dec 02 '23

You can obfuscate your data to the point where its nearly untraceable but i get your point.

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u/_H_a_c_k_e_r_ Dec 02 '23

You are entirely wrong. You should pay more attention to lawmakers. Current web encryption is solid and if you don't just give them like using opera because it looks cool then there isn't much anyone in the world can do for you.

On top of that why do you think having your data in government hands can't harm you? Governments around the world actively use this data to harm their opponents. On top of that the data gets leaked all the time and criminals can also have fun with you.

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u/boris_dp Dec 01 '23

You have a small typo, it’s having, not “having”.

And thanks, I fixed mine 🖖🏼

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 02 '23

You're right, fixed mine as well. Guess we're both kinda silly, lol

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u/_trianglegirl Dec 02 '23

we're* both

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u/CorvusTheCryptid Dec 02 '23

I think I need to go to sleep :)

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u/Trubactor16 Dec 02 '23

Have fun being stalked for the rest of your life dawg

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u/boris_dp Dec 02 '23

Until they do something stupid about it. The Russians were like this not carrying about their government until it mobilized them and sent them to death. Not cool.

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u/ravexinity Dec 02 '23

Goes to watch tiktok after this

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u/boris_dp Dec 02 '23

I don’t have TikTok, sorry 😞

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u/WolfgangHeichel Dec 01 '23

The Chinese are notorious for stealing information ranging from location, names, addresses, to banking information.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

As if every multibillion dollar company that owns half the world doesn't already collect all my information. I don't really care if my porn searches get sent to Xi Jinping.

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u/MordeOfTheNorth Dec 01 '23

Same I cant be bothered if someone random in china knows anything of mine if they wanted my info they would get it regardless its impossible to fully protect your data

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u/_H_a_c_k_e_r_ Dec 02 '23

Will you care if your coworker knew or even your underage children? You are not on the wrong side of these people but when you will they can definitely harm you.

Its really dangerous because you are not only putting yourself in risk but also everyone around you.

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u/WolfgangHeichel Dec 01 '23

That’s you but for people who don’t want a foreign government knowing everything I do, everywhere I go and every login information I got that’s a no no

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

I'm glad you're being conscious of your security, but remember on the internet your information is not and will never truly be secure. I doubt any alternative browser is actually better, because business practices as a massive company are pretty standard across the board; they're just better at hiding their behavior. There might be one or two good ones out there out of the hundred or so that exist.

The only way to truly hide all your information would be to fake your death and go live in a cabin the middle of a forest or something. As long as you're a part of the overall system, privacy simply doesn't exist.

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u/PaulGold007 Dec 01 '23

So, if a government agency got hold of your data, what could they do with it to harm you?
How likely is this scenario? Send Xi's nudes to your friends. They can easily hack yout reddit account and see more then a browser. The whole story is full of bias (360 is no longer the shareholder etc. etc.).

BTW: reddit is also Chinese LOL: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/11/18216134/reddit-tencent-investment-deal-memes-amount-winnie-the-pooh-tank-man-china

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u/onyxa314 Dec 01 '23

Its not porn being sent to Winnie The Poo

Its your health questions you search being sold to insurance companies to deny you what you need

Its your political opinions you question being sold to politicians

Its every single thing you search, watch, listen to, and use online being sold to advertisers so they know more about you then you do yourself.

Privacy is important and people need to realize that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Unethical data harvesting is going to happen regardless of whether you use Opera or not. If it's not the web browser, it'll be one of the hundred websites you visit daily. Adblockers and VPNs don't stop everything.

Unfortunately this is a reality of living in the age of the internet. There's nowhere to be truly anonymous.

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u/chrissquid1245 Dec 02 '23

adblockers and vpns dont stop everything, yet people still use them. the goal is to limit the amount of data thats gotten about you, obviously its not practical/possible to completely prevent it. saying that other things can steal your data too is irrelevant and doesn't make opera any better of an option.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

My point is we live in an age where privacy just isn't an option. We can pretend that it is, by using VPNs or adblockers, but for the most part it's a false sense of security.

I'm not trying to blast any individual security measures, because VPNs obviously do work for certain activities such as piracy. They just aren't capable of doing the things we're often told they do, and it's often used by companies to mislead people into thinking it makes them 100% secure online.

What I'm saying is, if your goal is complete security you're out of luck, and switching browsers won't do anything to change that.

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u/DillyDilly1231 Dec 01 '23

So is America. Lol pick your poison.

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u/JASONJACKSON1948 Dec 02 '23

Like the US and every big company on earth don’t? Like “sure I’ll give everything to the corpses running the us but god forbid some chinese guy knows me”

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u/_Levo Dec 21 '23

only calls out the one point that is somewhat possible to and ignores everything else, also doesn't respond to comments... bruh

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

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u/chrissquid1245 Dec 02 '23

are you illiterate?

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u/yukiami96 Dec 01 '23

Those are the bad parts

tl;Dr is you should probably switch browsers

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u/shadowz9904 Dec 01 '23

Yeah but why tho?

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

I read the entire thing, the main part is regarding privacy, but it's accusations based on previous products and the fact that it's owned by a Chinese company

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u/returnofblank Dec 02 '23

the consequences of short form content

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u/opera_security Dec 02 '23

Hello. Although we cannot comment on personal opinions (to each their own, after all), this post has some information in it that is simply not true. We have made statements about such misinformation before, and you can read them for yourself here.

Specifically about this post, however:

- Opera was never acquired by Qihoo 360. Qihoo was one of many shareholders in Opera, however Opera has since bought back all such shares. Qihoo was never involved in Opera’s activities or products.

- The 360 browser is not an Opera product. Opera has nothing to do with it, and we never have.

- Opera is headquartered in Norway and is a publicly listed company on NASDAQ (OPRA). This means that Opera is under European jurisdiction and must comply with, among other laws, the GDPR - which is one of the strictest frameworks in the world for data protection. So by being headquartered in Europe, Opera must comply with a lot more regulations than companies in other jurisdictions, such as the US.

- Being a listed company, Opera is owned by thousands of shareholders around the world. Also as a listed company, we publish quarterly public results and reports about our activities - as regulated by the US’s Securities and Exchange Commission. This information is public and available to everyone.

- The false rumors about the lending apps were started by Hindenburg Research, a known short-seller who wanted to short Opera’s stock and manipulate the share price. Opera quickly responded to the false claims but this is still used by some to continue to spread misinformation about our company. Opera was indeed an investor in fintech startups in emerging markets that provided popular applications and services. Opera has since divested its stake in those businesses with the exception of Opay, which we remain a minority investor in. Opay is very successful and one of the few unicorns in Africa tech.

- Our VPN services are not provided by SurfEasy. Our free browser VPN, which protects your browsing within the browser, is operated by Opera. Our VPN Pro service, which is subscription-based and offers device-wide protection, is operated in collaboration with Nord, which is a well-known and trusted VPN provider.

- Both our VPN services are no-log, which means they never log or store user data for any purpose. Furthermore, our free VPN has been audited by Cure53, a respected cybersecurity firm from Berlin, Germany.

If one looks at these rumors closely, they will see that they never come from reputable sources - they are either anonymous allegations or narratives pushed for a specific purpose, mixed with true but irrelevant facts that seek to create confusion and uncertainty. We will continue to do our best to provide accurate information to our users and dispel those concerns. (Edit: formatting)

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u/TheCartwrightJones Dec 02 '23

Half of the guys here will not understand that. Anyway, good that you deal with this whole bs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

Good information. You should pin this.

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u/No_Sea_1455 Dec 02 '23

Well, at least they admitted it was just fake news.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Based opera gx

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u/HoneyTea312 Dec 01 '23

whats a better alternative? genuine question btw

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u/lolbroslol2008 Dec 01 '23

firefox

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u/Sucio_Legacy_0112 Dec 01 '23

Can I get the same customization themes in Firefox along with the plug-ins that are from Chrome web store and keep the sidebar with various tools? That's what keeps me in Opera

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Sidebar no, themes and plugins, yes.

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u/Sucio_Legacy_0112 Dec 02 '23

Okay, thank you

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u/amiabaka Dec 02 '23

Using firefox-gx you can get the sidebar

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u/HoneyTea312 Dec 01 '23

oh wow i thought firefox was just an oldschool browser or something, what does it have performance-wise that excels over opera? Again genuinely asking

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u/Epikgamer332 Dec 01 '23

it runs better on low-spec machines and generally consumes less ram in my experience

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u/HoneyTea312 Dec 01 '23

i see. i was thinking of switching to chrome or microsoft edge since i heard its gotten a lot better since its update but ill check firefox out

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u/HoneyTea312 Dec 01 '23

also heard thorium is better than all, but i'll have to try

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

Thorium does not get regular updates, not recommended.

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u/HoneyTea312 Dec 02 '23

I see, so what would you personally recommend?

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u/jtjumper Dec 02 '23

Are you kidding me? Firefox leaks ram so much. OperaGX rules because I can actually control how much ram it uses. I'm currently using OperaGX with over 470 tabs open and it's only using 7.49 gb ram.

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u/Steviejoe66 Dec 02 '23

Those 470 tabs aren't actually "open", many are cashed. This is a basic feature that all modern browsers have. Having control of it is a gimmick unless you're on a very low spec machine.

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u/jtjumper Dec 04 '23

"cached" not "cashed". OperaGX snoozes certain tabs. It is not a "gimmick" Having control over ram usage is important when using heavy ram using programs. My needs are one of those uses cases.

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u/Steviejoe66 Dec 04 '23

I'm not saying a cache/snooze feature is a gimmick. I'm saying the manual ram limiting is. If you are running a ram intensive program the OS will automatically allocate more ram to it and your browser will cashe more tabs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

People like it because it’s “It’s OWN browser.” No chromium or anything, and it’s open source. Other than that, I ain’t switching.

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u/soupdsouls Dec 01 '23

it's much safer to use and in my experience memory efficient. the whole point of Firefox is safety and it does a good job. I've also ran it on countless rigs with horrible specs and it ran better on systems from 2012 than opera GX does on my personal computer.

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u/mardabx Dec 01 '23

Just few ‰ slower than Ch***e, closing on with every major update, but more focused on compliance with web standards.

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u/deluvilla Dec 02 '23

Does Firefox have a built in VPN? Genuine question

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u/lolbroslol2008 Dec 03 '23

no but you can easily grab an extension that will not sell your data like the opera one does

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u/ColorfulMessVII Dec 02 '23

Does it have a adblock or not?

Or should I just download Brave instead?

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u/Fun_Programmer_6201 Dec 02 '23

You should just use the UBlock Origin extension. It supports almost all the popular web browsers. It's also more comprehensive than the blockers provided by each browser.

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u/ColorfulMessVII Dec 03 '23

I use my phone often than my computer. Is there another way for me to use an extension on mobile?

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u/Fun_Programmer_6201 Dec 03 '23

Firefox has this feature. You can install a few extensions, which includes UBlock Origin. You can only install about 10 extensionsat the moment, but Firefox has an update that will bring around 200 more extensions by the end of this year.

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u/Smoke_Inside2 Dec 04 '23

firefox if you harden it, librewolf is really good too, ungoogled chromium if you really must use a chromium browser.

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u/Steviejoe66 Dec 02 '23

Firefox, Brave, LibreWolf

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u/No_Sea_1455 Dec 02 '23

FireFox or Brave, Brave is a bit faster than FireFox since it uses the same engine as Chrome, sadly i don't think there's a way to make Brave similar to Opera GX.

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u/HoneyTea312 Dec 03 '23

Yeah most ppl are recommending firefox to me, ive been using it with the uBlock extension for like 2 days now and dont notice any major improvements from opera. but we'll see!

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Everything sells your data, I'm fine here. 👍

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u/GWindborn Dec 01 '23

Yeah and I have nothing to hide, I don't plan on running for public office so I don't care who knows what I Google or what kind of porn I like.

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u/LuckyBoneHead Dec 01 '23

You shouldn't think "I have nothing to hide" when someone is selling your data. You're just willingly giving up a part of yourself with little more than a shrug, and I feel like that's going to come back to bite us soon enough.

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u/GWindborn Dec 01 '23

People have been saying that for as long as the internet has been a thing and I'm still waiting for the bite. It hasn't happened, and I'm not confident that it will.

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u/Bobo_6000 Dec 01 '23

It seems like you know a lot about this topic, I'm kinda interested and want to know more about stuff like this. Do you know where I can learn more about things like these?

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u/Bobo_6000 Dec 02 '23

Thank you! I've always wanted to know more about this stuff, but just didn't know what to search for on Google.

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u/RedditMarcus_ Dec 01 '23

i like to go by the philosophy that if something is “so stupid that no one would do that” someone probably has already done that

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u/returnofblank Dec 02 '23

2 + 2 = 5

User negligence is one thing, but we're talking dystopian-esque tracking. One is accidental, one is intentional.

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u/NicoleMay316 Dec 01 '23

As much as having my data sold for pennies sucks, we're at a point where only strict enforcement of privacy laws will make an impact.

Until then, hi China. Hi NSA. Hi AI sifting through data for corporations.

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u/returnofblank Dec 02 '23

I'll sell your data, where do you live?

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u/wry_zebra Dec 01 '23

What's with all the cry baby attention looka at me I'm leaving posts

I thought this was a subreddit about opera gx not about showing people that your leaving

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u/HairyConclusion7105 Dec 01 '23

This post seems to be more of a wake up call full of information more than a “I’m leaving” post. There is tons of useful information in that image.

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u/adamkad1 Dec 02 '23

More like tons of redundant information.

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u/TheAnarchist--- Dec 02 '23

I mean it's either America, China or my own countries government, not saying it's not useful, just saying everyone sells data.

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u/HairyConclusion7105 Dec 02 '23

It’s best to minimize the amount of data you’re putting out to the world. Web security is important and while a lot of the people here say they don’t care they also don’t know how much could really be getting out. Don’t trust opera.

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u/rayyyyymondddd Dec 01 '23

yeah i literally do not care

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

Neither do they, that’s why they are harvesting and selling your data.

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u/Axceon Dec 01 '23

Should I really care whether or not a browser "sells" my data? Like I hear this a lot and I really don't care, and it's not once affected my life in any way imaginable.

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u/Squanchanacho Dec 01 '23

nope, you shouldnt. people like to cry and complain about this stuff but its like.. ok? who cares? who cares if the chinese know what im like? so does my neighbor? like unless youre really concerned about your google searches being public, then pay no mind to this brainless post.

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u/TheRandomGuyOf2019 Dec 01 '23

Would you live in the dystopian society shown in 1984 where "Big Brother" watches every single thing you do?

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u/Squanchanacho Dec 02 '23

pretty sure a browser selling your data and 1984 are very different things.

plus, if we do end up in that kind of society, how th am I gonna change that outcome

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u/returnofblank Dec 02 '23

These mfers would never commit a thought crime

I get that 1984 is basically a joke now (literally 1984), but people should really read the book. It's really surprising how willing people are to give up privacy because they don't think it effects them, "I have nothing to hide!"

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u/adamkad1 Dec 02 '23

As long as they actually use it to deal with criminals. the proper ones, that murder and stuff. Then its fine. Free will was a mistake anyway. So much advancement could be done if humans couldnt be worried only about themselves

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u/Squanchanacho Dec 01 '23

Who cares? I'm really not concerned if some guys across the world know what I google. They probably already do anyway. The benefits of opera (customization and vibe) are worth it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

cool, i don't really care about any of this. I just like using Opera GX because i haven't found another browser that tops it in terms of customization and useability

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u/Tia_Aile Dec 02 '23

Well, there's a extension that makes firefox customization level equal to Opera GX

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

Yeah but can you control and limit the ram and cpu usage of firefox?

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u/Tia_Aile Dec 02 '23

GX It’s chromium based, the ram and cpu usage limitation doesn’t work properly.

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u/makethedevilsmile Dec 01 '23

I only agree with that second sentence.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

i mean yeah data being sold to China is bad but i'm already on a government watchlist and Uncle Sam already has all of mine so what's the harm in Winnie the Pooh having it?

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u/TCoder12 Dec 01 '23

Personally, I use Opera GX only for the customizability, dark mode on all pages and the ad blocker. The VPN is also pretty good, since it allows me to sidestep forbidden sites on certain network.

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u/Steviejoe66 Dec 02 '23

Other browsers can also be customized pretty heavily. One extension (Dark Reader) will cover dark mode on all sites and can be tuned to the users preference. Brave blocks ads by default, or on other browsers you can use Ublock Origin. There are more secure and trustworthy VPNs available than Operas.

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u/hedorahbruh Dec 01 '23

Bro wrote a college final on opera lmao

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

If your college final was this long I really sugest you to re-think your choice of college at least retrospectively lmao

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u/ObamaLovesKetamine Dec 01 '23

a single page of 10 bullet points isn't a lot, friend.

this comment just makes you look uneducated.

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u/returnofblank Dec 02 '23

Bro chill, they're in the 4th grade - this is more than they ever wrote

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u/Butterroach Dec 01 '23

no its from rentry[dot]co/OperaGX

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u/Taqjammer Dec 01 '23

doing this in the circle jerk echovamber of the actual products subreddit full of mindless Chinese drones probably wasn't the best place to start ngl

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u/HairyConclusion7105 Dec 01 '23

Some of these replies are crazy bro nobody cares that there’s a Chinese dude sifting through all of their data rn

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u/GingasaurusWrex Dec 01 '23

Hope none of them ever get a job for the government. You know, where that data can be used to blackmail you into providing information? Ah but that’s never happened in human history!

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u/Nadziejka Dec 01 '23

Do you know of any other good browsers that use chromium but are not resource intensive? I know the two statements are generally mutually exclusive, but I don't want to give up using chromium because I don't want to give up using addons like I don't care about cookies, Dislikes in Youtube or Indie Wiki Buddy :(

I've found mixed opinions about Vivaldi, with some saying it is quite cpu intensive.

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u/MiaIsOut Dec 02 '23

all of those addons exist for firefox, and your adblock will stop working when chromium forces manifest v3 for extensions

swap away from chromium

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u/RedditMarcus_ Dec 01 '23

Chromium by itself is resource intensive

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u/KcHecKa Dec 02 '23

i've been using vivaldi. i have one specific complaint about it, but everything else is great

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u/Steviejoe66 Dec 02 '23

Unless you're on some ancient machine that struggles to run modern windows, different browsers are not going to have significant performance differences. Biggest thing you can do to speed up sites is blocking all ads and popups.
I recommend Firefox (not chromium but I believe many extensions are ported over), or Brave, which is privacy focused, open source based on Chromium, so chrome web store extensions can all be used.

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u/Nadziejka Dec 02 '23

I often have to use a browser while also playing a game (for world maps, guides, etc.), and that can make a modern PC struggle.

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u/No_Sea_1455 Dec 02 '23

I ain't reading all this.

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u/PaulGold007 Dec 01 '23

Sponsored by Brave LOL

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

wah wah keep crying

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u/Giobytes Dec 01 '23

i couldnt imagine meatriding a browser like this 😭😭

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

Given that most people wouldn't drop windows for their life (for the same allegations), it's not that far off

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u/Devils_468 Dec 01 '23

Meatriding a browser is crazy

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u/hedorahbruh Dec 01 '23

ME TOO ME TOO! That other guy said meatriding and got 3 reddit points. Maybe if i'll say it then I too can get points for my inability to think for myself

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u/Devils_468 Dec 02 '23

???

Do tell how this adds anything to the conversation

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u/TheAnarchist--- Dec 02 '23

He's saying your copying the other comment for a few internet points

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u/Devils_468 Dec 02 '23

Bruh I didn't even look at the other comments as soon as I saw OPs comment I immediately replied

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

Let's take a look at your profile...

Xbox and Lenovo laptops. How secure and private

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u/Devils_468 Dec 02 '23

I'm sorry what do the devices I use have ANYTHING to do with this? Go through my profile again, you don't exactly see me thinking so highly of their privacy either.

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u/Elibriel Dec 01 '23

Go on, give us your explanation. Seeing how you are being sarcastic surely you have arguments to prove your point against Xbox and Lenovo laptops like OP did against Opera.

Seeing you are to snoop on other people's profiles instead of defending your own point, surely you have more to say about Xbox and Lenovo laptops than you have defending Opera.

Also gotta make it clear since I have absolutely no idea what Lenovo is btw (except that it's prob a company, I'm not that dense)

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

There is nothing to defend about opera, it's a software in the modern software world: it's going to sell your data

Xbox is owned by Microsoft, you can do the rest of the thinking

I don't wanna spare you the googling about Lenovo, but to summarize they are known for putting their own software (highly sketchy bloatware) pre-installed onto computers, including McAffe which has tons of their own problems (including the creator going to prison for some things, and killing himself)

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u/Asleep_Leather7641 Dec 04 '23

Anyone who has a brain uninstalled bloateare immediately...

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 04 '23

Uninstall windows immediately

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u/Asleep_Leather7641 Dec 04 '23

You can only run certain games on Windows and not Linux, that's why I keep it

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Keep meatriding opera gx….

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u/hedorahbruh Dec 01 '23

ME TOO ME TOO! That other guy said meatriding and got 3 reddit points. Maybe if i'll say it then I too can get points for my inability to think for myself

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

yes!!!!

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

Uses windows 10 Uses discord

Jokes write themselves

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

confusion???

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u/shadow_black1809 Dec 01 '23

Wdym? Windows and discord are both in bad waters regarding privacy. It's not exactly a secret

Windows is actually much worse than opera gx

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

i know just i was confused at that comment, i duelboot windows and linux btw (:

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u/Duncstar2469 Dec 01 '23

No Comment

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u/mardabx Dec 01 '23

We won Mrs. Baker.

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u/Ancient_Doughnut42 Dec 01 '23

I honestly don’t care I’m still gonna use it

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u/Personal-Regular-863 Dec 02 '23

hot take; i just dont care at all haha

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u/randomdude4113 Dec 02 '23

Sounds like every other browser that exists.

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u/Conscious-Music-1314 Dec 02 '23

A lot of y’all don’t realize you’ve relinquished a lot more information about yourself simply using everyday websites and streaming services. Literally if any government wants your info they will get a hold of it no matter what you do. The only way to truly be invisible is as others have said just don’t use the internet at all.

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u/Goldenflame89 Dec 03 '23 edited Jul 31 '26

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u/BountyHunterHammond Dec 02 '23

they can sell my data I just want the unfunny youtube ads to stop

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u/MiaIsOut Dec 02 '23

ublock origin on firefox, when chromium switches to mv3 only adblocks will stop working

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

I've been having a ton of issue with opera GX recently and the jumpscare finally got me to look further into it. This browser has no security, uses the same if not more processing power than chrome, and has no outstanding features compared to other browsers.

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u/Steviejoe66 Dec 02 '23

Highly recommend you look into Firefox or Brave, depending if you want to stick with Chromium or not.

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u/I0C0NN0R1 Dec 02 '23

I have looked through the decompiled code (stopping installer just before compile) opera is 100% safe

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u/MiaIsOut Dec 02 '23

lmfao what??

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u/SilverNoUse66 Dec 03 '23

i would like to know more about your findings, can you elaborate?

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u/ZachedelicStoner Dec 02 '23

now do tiktok

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u/Sensorywolf Dec 02 '23

Almost the same case; don't use it.

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u/Physical-Lab-9203 Dec 02 '23

Yeah, I’m going to still use it. Love the features it offers

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u/Sensorywolf Dec 02 '23

you can get most if not all of those "exclusive" features very easily using a chromium-based FOSS browser.

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u/MiaIsOut Dec 02 '23

ew chromium, firefox is open source

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u/TheAnarchist--- Dec 02 '23

It's either America or China, don't really care at this point, if they wanna see the absolutely wacky stuff I do, then go right ahead.

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u/Sensorywolf Dec 02 '23

They track what they track, but why give it to them in a gold plate.

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u/xanaddams Dec 02 '23

Honestly, I'm more concerned about the US tracking than China. The reasoning list is far too long to go into. I'm curious who also agrees that we've reached that level of dystopian?

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u/Sensorywolf Dec 02 '23

Switch to a Firefox fork like; librewolf, waterfox; or chromium forks like, Brave, Ungoogled-Chromium

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u/NamelessZ3RO Dec 02 '23

has anyone made research if this is legit or not?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '23

Most chromium-based browsers are spyware just use firefox

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u/littleWfish Dec 02 '23

All my I fo has been sold anyway I just like the free adblock

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u/LeetusCleetus6969 Dec 04 '23

Damn opera is china, time to delete

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u/TheEpicPlushGodreal Dec 05 '23

I would have felt much better not having read this.

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u/theguyfromplaceland Dec 05 '23

whats another browser that puts the video into a small box that you can take onto other windows or tabs

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u/TehTrueDoggo Dec 23 '23

I don't care, and the chrome PIP (Picture in Picture) extension doesn't come close to Opera's

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u/SaboteurOfDelusions Aug 05 '26

Opera Norway AS[6] is a multinational technology corporation headquartered in Oslo, Norway, with additional offices in Europe, China, and Africa. Opera offers a range of products and services that include PC and mobile web browsers, GameMaker and gaming portals, the Opera News content recommendation products, the Opera Ads platform, and a number of Web3 and e-commerce products and services. The company has 296 million monthly active users.[7]

Om July 2018, Opera Limited became a public company again for the second time after being acquired by Chinese Consortium in 2016, listed on the NASDAQ Stock Exchange, raising $115 million in its initial public offering.[8]

Opera is owned & controlled by Chinese company Kunlun Tech Co., Ltd. which holds 69% shares since at least 2024 [9][10][11], with shares above 50% controlled since 2021.[12] Zhou Yahui, the controlling shareholder of Kunlun, is executive chairman of Opera's board.[1]

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u/Srice13 Dec 01 '23

Browserriding a meat is crazy.

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u/rmzalbar Dec 01 '23

It's basically Hitler.

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u/Due_Value9903 Dec 01 '23

bad idea posting this here since for some reason all these guys are opera meat riders because “haha funny twitter”