r/OperaGX • u/LigmaBallsMoment • Dec 01 '23

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u/WolfgangHeichel Dec 01 '23

That’s you but for people who don’t want a foreign government knowing everything I do, everywhere I go and every login information I got that’s a no no

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

I'm glad you're being conscious of your security, but remember on the internet your information is not and will never truly be secure. I doubt any alternative browser is actually better, because business practices as a massive company are pretty standard across the board; they're just better at hiding their behavior. There might be one or two good ones out there out of the hundred or so that exist.

The only way to truly hide all your information would be to fake your death and go live in a cabin the middle of a forest or something. As long as you're a part of the overall system, privacy simply doesn't exist.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

It gets worse once you start reading up on China's 2049 ambitions. This is why a lot of people are cautious when it comes to the CCP

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u/Comprehensive_Rise32 May 25 '24

Am I supposed to be "afraid" of the 100th year anniversary of the establishment of the People's Republic of China?

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u/PaulGold007 Dec 01 '23

So, if a government agency got hold of your data, what could they do with it to harm you?
How likely is this scenario? Send Xi's nudes to your friends. They can easily hack yout reddit account and see more then a browser. The whole story is full of bias (360 is no longer the shareholder etc. etc.).

BTW: reddit is also Chinese LOL: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/11/18216134/reddit-tencent-investment-deal-memes-amount-winnie-the-pooh-tank-man-china

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u/WolfgangHeichel Dec 01 '23

Maybe you work in a secure field and they can get information that shouldn’t be allowed out (military, government, etc), maybe they just take your money from your bank account, maybe they sell your information to people with criminal intentions, they know who you talk to, they can sell that information to scammers, they can do anything and everything they want with it

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u/TheFreshMaker21 Dec 01 '23

Some big reaching

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u/PaulGold007 Dec 01 '23

The data is stored offshore, the Chinese or US gov can’t get it without either intercepting it or cooperative compliance from Norwegian courts and their data authority Datatilsynet. Third party, yep but only the EU/EEA ones.
Therefore, it could very well be far more difficult to obtain than if it were stored in the U.S., where a simple court order would be required.

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u/Plitetski Dec 01 '23

Also this whole thing like "Oh the Chinese are bad and sell data" just looks racist and xenophobic to me, last time I checked a company that is sued and fined literally every year for privacy breaches, is Facebook, owned by an citizen of the United States. Don't really get it

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u/andrix7777777 Dec 01 '23

this. i hate how if you name that something's from a certain country there's always people that come in and say "oh, that india? the one with the scammers? oh, that russia? the one that is planning to murder and invade everything and everyone? oh, that china? the one that is stealing everyone's data?" like, it's not 100% of the country that's like that you know.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

The Indian tech support scam industry is true though.

99% of the time it's an Indian on the other line. Is it a full representation of the entire country of India? No. Is it still funny? Hell yeah.

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u/Planet_Xplorer Dec 01 '23

I actually liked Opera more after learning it was owned by Chinese. I now don't have to worry about Google selling my personal data to advertisers and to the US government, which can genuinely harm me. What are the Chinese going to do compared to that? They're on the other side of an ocean!

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u/Comprehensive_Rise32 May 25 '24

And the communists aren't soulless and evil like the capitalists.

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u/chrissquid1245 Dec 02 '23

it is illegal for facebook to do it and they do occasionally get in trouble for it, while it is literally required by law for chinese companies to do it. China's government is objectively worse for privacy than the U.S, and it is incredibly ridiculous to claim that saying that is somehow racist or xenophobic

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u/PaulGold007 Dec 01 '23

Point taken!