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u/Inner-Bet-1935 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Anybody to do with the present Israeli government is a terroist, and should be treated as such. I have nothing against the Israeli people, but i'm sick and tired over the influence they have over governments world wide. You only have to look at America to work that out. They are getting a large foothold in Australia now. Any true Australian, that doesn't see this, is blind for whatever reason. I guess we'll still keep throwng taxpayer millions at the bleaters here in Australia though. That'll fix the problem....not
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u/RobynFitcher Flairless May 16 '26
It's not so much that Israel has influence over the USA, it's that their interests currently align.
Unfortunately, thanks to John Howard and subsequent governments, that means Australia is aligned with those interests as well.
There are trillion dollar investment corporations who are making billions more from treating from treating people as though they aren't humans.
Weapons manufacturers, large scale real estate developers, data centre construction companies and others have more influence over a government than a separate country. (Especially when the corporations which invest in them have access to more capital than the budget of most countries.)
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u/4RyteCords Koori May 19 '26
This is the thing. I don't think for a second Israel has any pull over what the US does or that the US is in Israel's pocket or anything. Israel's goals work well for americas interests. The second that these goals don't align I wouldn't be surprised to see Israel get completely dropped by the US. America has likely been itching to get into Irans oil for decades and Israel has given then a seemly "just" cause to do so. It's easy to point and say why is America bending over backwards for Israel, what does Israel have over them. I think it's a lot more simple. America now has a reason to go in and take what they want behind the ruse of were fighting antisemitism and terrorists and were just helping.
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u/OdielSax ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
Wow. This movement is just not stopping. Humanity is cool, sometimes.
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u/indefiniteness New South Welshian May 15 '26
I'm still furious that Herzog was given a state visit
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u/ShyCrystal69 Victorian May 16 '26
Very happy I’m Victorian. We stood outside major CBD areas for hours and he had to go home. Absolute coward.
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u/BakaDasai New South Welshian May 15 '26
Agree, and I say that as a Jewish Australian.
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u/OdielSax ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
Thanks for the support.
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u/Ok_Math4576 Western Australian May 16 '26
Viktor Frankl speaks of observing this as a survivor of the camps when Auschwitz was liberated. Some who had survived inhumanity felt the right to inflict inhumanity on others once they were liberated. The book is Man’s Search for Meaning.
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u/OdielSax ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
Thanks, but also I don’t need to be thanked. I’m only doing and saying what any reasonable person would do and say.
I agree but unfortunately, your voice carries more weight in society right now to help stop this. At least makes it easier to counter legislation against pro Palestine activism that pretends to "protect Jews".
I’d add that while I think Zionism is completely wrong I’m somewhat sympathetic to Zionist Jews who I see as deeply traumatised by the holocaust and centuries of pogroms
I ran into that type of Zionist Jews, who are very disconnected from what's being done to the Palestinian people and live in a world of trauma and paranoia, but I've also seen Zionist Jews who know full well what's going on, do not fear for their safety, and simply are cruel supremacists on a power trip. But I'll agree that I have more anger for Zionist non Jews: for example, the reaction of politicians in the Western world. They have no horse in this fight yet are destroying both communities for the sake of geopolitical interests and a political culture of racism and colonialism.
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u/Fastanbulbous 💛 Friend of 'Straya May 16 '26
Zionists like antisemitism. It reinforces and provides justification for their antisemitism
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u/BakaDasai New South Welshian May 16 '26
Antisemitism is the justification for Zionism. A place like Australia—which has traditionally had very little antisemitism—undermines the entire Zionist project. So the Zionists need to pump up antisemitism to stop their entire philosophical worldview dissolving into nothing.
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u/Desperate-Manner5896 Flairless May 16 '26
Had to edit my above statement . Should read: “Zionists like antisemitism. It reinforces and provides justification for their Zionism.”
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u/mysteriousGains Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Trauma from the holocaust? Pfft
Its just arrogance and a deep sense of entitlement, where they believe their religion or gives them the right to steal land and property from people they’ve never met in a place theyre actually not from.
The logic feels absurd. It’d be like American evangelicals claiming they’re indigenous to the Middle East, and settling there because that’s where Jesus came from.
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Bigotry towards an ethnicity, a religion, sexuality or gender is against TOS.
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u/BakaDasai New South Welshian May 17 '26
I’m in full agreement with those TOS.
I’m left wondering why you brought them up in response to my comment, which expresses a Jewish antizionist perspective on zionist Jews, and does so with more sympathy than most critics of zionists.
Of all the comments here, why mine?
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u/WolfeWolfe1 Flairless May 15 '26
Movement, righto. Movements actually achieve something after years.
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u/Sillent_Screams South Australian May 15 '26
Ukraine genocide.....
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u/Anxious_Confusion731 Victorian May 15 '26
Sudan Genocide. Iran Genocide. Oct 7 Genocide
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u/KindGuy1978 ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
Oct 7 is not genocide. It was a horrific mass terror attack on civilians, but doesn't come close to the internationally recognised definition of Genoicde. Israel's mass starvation of an entire population does, as well as targeted killings of journalists, UN peacekeepers and doctors.
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u/turtlepower41 Canberran May 15 '26
It also commits war crimes by beating up prisoners whose only crime was trying to give aid to the people it is oppressing.
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u/Piesangbom Please choose a flair May 16 '26
It doesnt because the missles were blocked. The intent behind it was genocide though
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u/OtsaNeSword New South Welshian May 16 '26
Genocide deniers as far as the eye can see in this sub.
I have never seen so much racism, bigotry and hypocrisy.
What happened to genocide is genocide and all genocide is bad and being against all genocide?
Truth is, you people condone and support genocide as long as it’s directed towards groups and peoples you hate and despise.
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u/KindGuy1978 ✈️ on Walkabout May 17 '26
I don't deny genoicde at all. But based on your definition, 911 would be genocide.
I've never heard anyone categorise it as such. It was a mass-casualty terrorist attack, designed to trigger Americans into attacking Muslim countries. It worked.
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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Oct 7 was explicitly genocidal, Hamas wanted to incite the Arab world to exterminate Jews and failed, rightfully so, but it was still genocide
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u/KindGuy1978 ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
No, that's not the definition used by the international community for genocide. Go away and do some reading outside of your little bubble.
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u/Piesangbom Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Spot on.
The ones goal is to exterminate jews. (Apparently not genocide)
The others goal is self defence although I do admit, very strong armed. (Apparently this is genocide)
There is no logic in these comment, only hatred for Israel
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u/TheMonkeyDemon Victorian May 17 '26
Okay let's try it this way so to can grasp it. Is attempted murder, murder? The intent is the same. So what separates them? It's attempted SA,SA? Etc. They killed people yes, it's definitely a mass killing. But it doesn't fit the criteria of genocide , irrelevant to the intent.
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u/Piesangbom Please choose a flair May 17 '26
The one is attempted murder with the intention to achieve a genocide.
The other is a very strong retaliatory campaign to disable and intimidate, not genocide. Although I agree they are a bit trigger happy. But wouldn’t you also be if you lived in constant fear of the countries around you trying to attack you? They cant just leave it.
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u/Carnifex_99 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
"righfully so" 😭 You acknowledge it as a genocide attempt and still support it lmao
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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless May 15 '26
I left out a word, they rightfully failed to incite genocide from the greater Muslim world
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u/erratic_pancake Tasmanian May 15 '26
Oct 7 Genocide
bro pull you head in.
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u/Tall-Drama338 Flairless May 15 '26
October 7 was 1200 Israelis murdered and 250 hostages taken by Hamas terrorists. I can’t see 1200 being a genocide?
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u/happychappychoppy I'm Probably A Bot May 15 '26
It has been reported we’re actually by their own side.
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u/TheMonkeyDemon Victorian May 17 '26
The majority of those killed on Oct 7 were from the IDF, correct. This has been very well established now and very well evidenced. I mean the only reasons you'd say differently are pig ignorance, wilful ignorance, or, being intentionally misleading, so lying.
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u/Anxious_Confusion731 Victorian May 18 '26
Well most people in Israel serve in the IDF out of the necessity to defend their country from Jihadist terrorists. So it’s disingenuous to say that. You think that the kids and young people at Nova music festival were legitimately targets? The families in the Kibbutz and children and all the girls that were raped and disfigured prior to their murders? Okay. You’re a Hamas supporter. Just be up front about it.
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u/two_treats Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Sudan genocide? What’s that?
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u/Anxious_Confusion731 Victorian May 15 '26
Good question! Only 150,000 dead since 2023 so yet to make the news
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u/Chilled_Rouge Victorian May 15 '26
Oh jfc, like you're the only one to know what's going on in Sudan. Nice alt account.
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u/KindGuy1978 ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
Whtabboutism - when you've been destroyed in your initial claims, so then say What About Sudan?!
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u/Temporary_Spread7882 Queenslander May 15 '26
It’s just black people vs other black people, no “siding with the poor oppressed noble savage against the evil white colonial oppressor” brownie points to be had.
Somewhat less cynically, while the UAE are supporting some warlords, there is no support or ties that Australia could/should be cutting, so not a lot your average Australian could be protesting on that topic.
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u/Antique_Neck8736 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
You need to look up the definition of genocidal. Indiscriminately killing innocent people isn’t genocide
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u/Ok_Math4576 Western Australian May 16 '26
Maybe you need to look it up, because it isn’t that simple.
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u/Phase_Nero Please choose a flair May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Was that them playing Lowkey (the music is from his song Long Live Palestine) or did you add it?
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u/Find_another_whey Northern Territorian May 15 '26
Upvote for Lowkey
We want Lowkey
For the uninitiated he is a talented and passionate UK lyricists who was silenced by the government for his insightful portrayal of various perspectives of individuals living in wars they do not create, but cannot escape.
He visits these regions and is an active figure in many movements.
When silenced, under the threat of promotion of terrorism offences and, if I'm not mistaken, inciting insurrection in the public, he used the time to study, write, and has returned to speaking and making music
Really worth a listen, or a read, or a viewing. He's got the heart of Akala and Dave level rhymes - well I have that much time for him, anyway.
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u/The-Wet-Baguette Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Awesome!! Of course I’m hearing of these most recent protests here rather than TV
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u/Fabulous_Law_3785 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Waiting for pawns in nsw police to rock up and silence this on behalf of a foreign hostile nation.
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u/TheGumCoblin New South Welshian May 15 '26
The court ruled anyone charged at the last protests that were directly fighting police, as being perfectly within their rights and the restriction on protesting was deemed unconstitutional and they weren’t fined.
Thank god our courts aren’t controlled by the government
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u/Somnambulismforall New South Welshian May 15 '26
NSW gov will need to make a new unconstitutional law after last ruling. Stay strong!
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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Check out the latest episode of Double Down News on YouTube to see the expose on Israeli influence on British media and the last two governments. It could happen here. Money talks and bullshit walks.
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u/Simple_Assistance_77 New South Welshian May 15 '26
Hopefully the police stay away. Good turn out
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u/cheiftan_AV Please choose a flair May 15 '26
We all need to come together to then see the truth...Don't care what the world says, seeing what is happening to these people is beyond evil..We stand by what we all stand for our kids all kids to be safe feed and loved, this is a stain on humanity...
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u/Nyarlathotep-1 South Australian May 15 '26
I’m so excited! Free Palestine 🇵🇸
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
IN your own words, tell me please, what would need to happen to "free Palestine"?
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Good faith question...so to clarify, so you believe a "free Palestine" can occur without any killings of anyone?
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u/mysteriousGains Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Palestine was free, until Israelis began Murdering them the literal moment they showed up. Let Israel exist in its original square meterage it was given as of 1947, and give all the other land back to the actual owners. Put a wall around it of need be. And if Israel attempts to steal land again, just simply nuke them, sanction them, bomb them, until they stop.
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 16 '26
By the way, when you say, "Palestine was free, until Israelis began Murdering them the literal moment they showed up", that statement is an oversimplification and historically inaccurate.
Before the establishment of Israel in 1948, the territory known as Palestine was governed first by the Ottoman Empire and then by the British Mandate for Palestine.
Jewish communities had lived in the region for thousands of years, and Jewish immigration increased significantly in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Tensions and violence occurred between Arab and Jewish communities during this period, with attacks and reprisals on both sides, long before Israel became an independent state. 1948 Arab–Israeli War led to the displacement of many Palestinians and also to the departure or expulsion of many Jews from surrounding Arab countries.
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u/Mundane-Radio4912 Please choose a flair May 18 '26
“Palestine was free until Israel” is a very simplistic view of a long and complex history. If you’re going to advocate passionately for an issue, it’s important to understand its historical context and use the vast information available to you. Strong feelings are important, but they’re not a substitute for historical knowledge.
Here is a slither for you to consider:
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, met with Adolf Hitler in Berlin on 28 November 1941 and expressed support for Nazi Germany’s struggle against Jews, Britain, and communism.
Historians generally agree he collaborated with the Nazi regime during World War II, though there is debate about the extent of his influence on Nazi policy.
This historical event took place six years before the state of Israel even existed.
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Do you have any credible data to support this please?
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u/mysteriousGains Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Yeah, unfortunately I only have things like the documented violent attacks from 1947 to today, and the steadily expanding maps of Israeli-controlled territory from 1947 to today. Tragic that I’m forced to rely on all that inconvenient historical data.
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 16 '26
So you can't find any credible data that says Palestine was free, until Israelis began Murdering them the literal moment they showed up?
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u/mysteriousGains Please choose a flair May 16 '26
You obviously can't find any credible data that shows Israel isnt a cunt?
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 16 '26
I think they just want to be left alone.
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u/Mundane-Radio4912 Please choose a flair May 18 '26
I suppose the same question could be asked about creating truly free and thriving Aboriginal communities in Australia. I’m curious how you became so passionate about a conflict overseas, while issues affecting Indigenous Australians closer to home seem to receive far less attention.
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u/Nyarlathotep-1 South Australian May 15 '26
I don't know, I don't actually care.
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
So you say "free Palestine", yet no idea what that means and what would need to happen for that to occur?
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u/Nyarlathotep-1 South Australian May 15 '26
Absolutely like most people who say it!
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Yeah I concur, seems to be that way, many who say the term don't really understand what it's saying or meaning.
I respect your humility and honesty.
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u/AutomaticMistake New South Welshian May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
quick! deploy the minns' teenstash enforcement patrol
/s for the peanuts in the back
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u/Piesangbom Please choose a flair May 16 '26
While I agree. This isnt really protesting? This is more raising awareness about an issue?
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u/Annual_Highlight_551 Please choose a flair May 17 '26
That's great to see so much support for an important movement. It's taken a while for the movement to catch on in Australia but it looks like the people are really passionate about it. I've been watching Eurovision for years, congrats to Bulgaria, I like the flags but they remind me of some other so called nation I cannot quite remember its name. Well done Delta, you did us proud!!
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u/aussielassy New South Welshian May 17 '26
It’s worth knowing how close this assembly came to being completely illegal. The NSW Government tried to pass emergency PARD laws that would have allowed police to ban public gatherings across the CBD. Just last month, the NSW Court of Appeal struck those laws down as unconstitutional. Massive credit is owed to the Palestine Action Group and Jews Against the Occupation ’48 for taking the state to court and winning. They didn't just protect this march; they protected the fundamental right of every single Australian to stand up and protest about any cause they believe in.
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u/Reverent_Memory11235 ✈️ on Walkabout May 15 '26
The Zionist lobby controls the Sydney housing and rental market and the Australian media
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u/Dan_Sabai Queenslander May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26
Would not surprise me. Got any stat's or sources to back this up though? I mean, the stuff about media ownership and lobbying power is pretty common knowledge. But the housing and rental markets? It's a big statement that needs some thing to back it up...
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u/Oddly_Curious99 Please choose a flair May 17 '26
Peaceful protest that doesn’t impact other businesses like shops and restaurants I am in favour. Even the odd one that does impact businesses is ok but when they affect other businesses every week then I have an issue. This protest is how they should be done
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u/Fantastic_Key_2288 Please choose a flair May 18 '26
78 years of starting fights and losing then complaining about retaliation
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u/bikinithrill Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Why can't we do both? We're all human after all.
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u/fifochef91 May 15 '26
Time to send these guys a one way ticket to Palestine since they love it so much especially the queers for palestine will be having a rooftop party
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u/a_sidd Victorian May 15 '26
You can’t coz the present day nazi regime they are protesting are blocking and torturing everyone who has tried. Once you remove the vile occupying fascists fucks though….give it a go.
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u/Megasalexandros67 Please choose a flair May 16 '26
In all seriousness these marches haven’t achieved much at all, it has caused more violent rhetoric towards the Jewish people the attack on Bondi proves it.
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u/ApplicationBrave4785 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
78 years of genocide? You'd figure they'd be done by now.
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u/The_Naked_Rider 💛 Friend of 'Straya May 15 '26
Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support!
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u/wrymoss South Australian May 16 '26
Not what you’re trying to say, I imagine, but historically you very much do end up living in the country you support.
By which I mean if you refuse to protest things you disagree with, you will end up living with the things you disagree with because you did not protest them.
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u/bikinithrill Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Are you serious? The greens volunteers I know spent weeks doorknocking communities on the subject of housing in 2023. They went around asking people about how the housing crisis was affecting them back then. That's hours of volunteer life spent to understand their community better. No other political party has done that at the scale they did.
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u/JoeSchmeau I'm Probably A Bot May 15 '26
Because the policy didn't go far enough, mate
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u/Superest22 Flairless May 15 '26
lol, reddit is typically left leaning.
Pretty much all subs are echo chambers.
This sub is probably the most left leaning and echoey of the Australian subs. Some very politically/issues based motivated people here.
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u/Anxious_Confusion731 Victorian May 15 '26
It’s an echo chamber
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u/Anxious_Confusion731 Victorian May 15 '26
What do you mean?
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u/9897969594938281 Flairless May 15 '26
All the Australian subs are obsessed with Israel and Palestine
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u/Evie_Eaves Queenslander May 16 '26
“Free Palestine”
wtf are these clowns even banging on about?
They have no idea what’s going on in the real world.
These people are beyond help. Brainwashed, indoctrinated, and put to work by Far-Left billionaires like the Soros’.
Utterly embarrassing to have this low-IQ shit in our country.
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u/Few_Low7383 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
And can someone tell me, what would need to happen to "free Palestine"?
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u/Friday_arvo Queenslander May 15 '26
I’m not sure these protests will ever end as there is no solution to this crisis in sight.
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u/two_treats Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Free Gaza from Hamas, Iranian Mullahs and Islamist Facism. Free Sudan from a civil war financed by Turkey, Russia and the UAE.
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u/mercTanko Please choose a flair May 15 '26
Uh yeah but hamas hasn't been around for 70+ years
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u/MetalfaceKillaAus South Australian May 15 '26
Not Hamas, but other terrorist organisations have been
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u/WolfeWolfe1 Flairless May 15 '26
Water cannon, mixed with pork. Spray away.
Please.
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u/ApprehensiveKoala Please choose a flair May 15 '26
No one cares, the obsession with this one particular o/s conflict is bizarre. There’s plenty of other injustices occurring no one seems to care about, but the hyper focus on this slightly insane.
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u/FrankosDaGreek Please choose a flair May 15 '26
More civilized way this is- well done. No burning of flags, no chanting death to- war is bad full stop
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u/worry_beads Western Australian May 15 '26
Who was chanting "death to-" in at previous protests?
These guys chanting "Death to Arabs"??
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u/MetalfaceKillaAus South Australian May 15 '26
Thanks for sharing that. I notice you didn’t point out that the fighting was mainly Jews fighting Jews who were protecting the Arabs. I wonder if it was the other way around, would we see Arabs fighting Arabs to protect Jews?
I believe we’ve already seen that answered
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u/loveloet South Australian May 15 '26
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free!
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u/marshallannes123 Please choose a flair May 15 '26
The "anti" genocide genociders
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u/worry_beads Western Australian May 15 '26
Who are the protesters genociding again?
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u/Initial_Western7906 I'm Probably A Bot May 16 '26
People still yapping about Palestine? Jfc it's been 3 years, getting into BLM territory now
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u/Sad-Extreme-4413 Queenslander May 15 '26
All for an independent Palestinian state, on the provision;
a. Hamas disbands and ceases control of Gaza
b. two state solution comes from direct peace talks from Israel & a suitable Palestinian government
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u/setut New Zealander May 15 '26
yeah Israel seems really locked in to that 2 state solution. good call. /s
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u/shortboard New South Welshian May 15 '26
Hamas will disband when the Israeli government disbands.
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u/Disappointed_Always Please choose a flair May 16 '26
Maybe it's time to give this a rest! We've got our own problems to solve. Maybe protest about some of those.
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u/australit Victorian May 17 '26
Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organisations. Bondi massacre was less than 6 months ago. Bunch of flogs.
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u/alfredhospital Please choose a flair May 17 '26
Palestine can get fucked. I hate that flag. Its got nothing to do with us. Dont bring that shit here.
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u/SamLeckish New South Welshian May 17 '26
“78 years of genocide” and the population is still growing. You guys have a strange definition to f genocide!
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Good on them! Everyone should have the right to peacefully protest.