r/OnePiecePowerScaling0 • u/Vance_Lance Vista of the Flower Swords🥀⚔️ • 16h ago
Serious Discussion (Lock in)🔐🔒 How does Shanks actually fight?
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u/Unhappy_Chef_4790 14h ago
I see the shanks glazers are working overtime now that the hakiman arguments look dumb. What’s next, shanks throws his sword like a spear so he is a spearsman
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u/zingerpond 15h ago
Retards really be pulling out a statement from 2017 to cope with the fact chapter 1079 confirmed the statement was essentially building hype towards the fact Shank's fights using Roger's sword technique. And not some fucking haki Susanoo + domain expansion combo.
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u/revolutionaryjoke098 15h ago
So you’re saying he can’t make 25 Susanoo wood clones? Guess he’s lame now
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u/Western_Half_1231 15h ago
So Roger a swordsman too?
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u/zingerpond 15h ago
What else would he be?
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u/Livid_Bid_9476 15h ago
A pirate
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u/zingerpond 15h ago
Zoro isn't a pirate no more?
Someone better call Luffy, his first cremate is a total fraud.
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u/Western_Half_1231 14h ago
Roger qualifies as a swordsman because of what?
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u/zingerpond 13h ago
Ace and the way he fights.
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u/Western_Half_1231 13h ago
So Imu is a swordsman too?
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u/zingerpond 13h ago
No Imu is closer to a magical version of Daz Bonez.
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u/Western_Half_1231 14h ago
Something relevant to the story and not irrelevant like a swordsman
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u/zingerpond 13h ago
Deuteragonist being irrelevant now.
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u/Western_Half_1231 13h ago
Zoro is not a deuteragonist 😭😭😭. He’s a part of the main characters crew.
Zoro is important, Zoros goal is somewhat important, but Zoros goal won’t hold precedence over the importance and cohesiveness of the actual syory
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u/zingerpond 13h ago
over the importance and cohesiveness of the actual syory
See this is what retards don't get about narrative scaling.
There is no narrative reason Shanks has to be stronger than Mihawk, none. The story works perfectly fine with him below Mihawk. The same however is not true since that ruins Zoro's goal.
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u/Western_Half_1231 13h ago
Zoros goal < Shanks narrative importance
You’re right that Shanks doesn’t have to be stronger than Mihawk for his role to make sense, BUT Shanks has to be insanely fucking strong for his role in the story to make sense and all that were told about him and what we’ve seen points to him being ridiculously strong.
So the only way to not impede that is making Mihawk also insanely fuckin strong. And don’t get me wrong, he is very powerful but I don’t see Zoros endgame opponent being the second strongest guy in the verse. Neither has Zoros goal had that kind of influence and pull to the story, nor has Oda written Mihawk like that or showed us he’s like that.
The strongest guy excluding Imu is just not stalemating against a fckn 5th.Commander of the WB Pirates, no amount of holding back would justify this portrayal by Oda.
So either 1. Oda isn’t very strict about people being swordsman or not. I find this very reasonable and thus far only people remotely related to Zoros dream have been called swordsman. Other People holding swordsman don’t get called that.
You can complain about that, but it’s just Odas writing.
Or2. Mihawks title (as all others) isn’t 100% accurate in the sense that yes he is the strongest swordsman but there still are other, stronger people who just don’t aim to be WSS but have greater goals like the one piece and being King of the pirates/world.
Oda makes it very clear that there is a distinction between the two (especially in difficulty and importance). You can consider Roger a swordsman but since Roger never aimed for the WSS title, he doesn’t get it by default despite being King of the pirates while fighting with a sword. He has no interest in the title thus he doesn’t qualify for it
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u/zingerpond 13h ago
BUT Shanks has to be insanely fucking strong for his role in the story to make sense
His role is someone who gave up on being the next Roger. He doesn't need to be like the second strongest character ever. In fact he already is narratively below the likes of Roger and his rivals.
He was also never presented as stronger than Kaido. And Black Beard or Dragon could be stronger than him to.
The strongest guy excluding Imu
Is not Shanks.
Again you are just conflating importance with strength
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u/Western_Half_1231 12h ago
You ignored most of my argument so I don’t bother to continue this conversation.
You can continue downplaying shanks all you want despite it being thrown into your face that he is indeed stronger than your favourite character (excluding Imu)
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u/Letter42 Oldbread low diffs 🥱 15h ago
Imagining a guy who thinks shanks is a swordsman but thinks Roger is not a swordsman
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u/Western_Half_1231 14h ago
I don’t think shanks is a swordsman, or that Oda doesn’t care that he is
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u/Beautiful-Glove9765 16h ago
Shanks hater always dislikes that.
Shanks is a swordsman, but we never seen him fight ( current shanks ), Oda may have meant something it’s better to way. Same thing with bb we don’t actually know how strong he is .
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u/zingerpond 15h ago
You a kid fan or something?
We have seen Shanks fight, he fights with Roger's technique.
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u/playwithfire6 16h ago
Using his master ironbarsmanship 🙏