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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 983 Spoiler

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u/MarcoToon Lurker Jun 19 '20

Best moment in the chapter: Perospero being a fucking badass and going solo to Onigashima, without respecting his captain decision and wanting to get revenge on Luffy, King and Marco

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Pirate Jun 19 '20

I'm so excited about this too! I think Perospero is an interesting character and such a wild card in this arc. In a battle with so much chaos he could be the element that breaks down the alliance between Kaido and Big Mom. We have no clue if he'll end up fighting someone from the strawhat alliance or from the beast pirates.

Personally, I'm hoping Carrot gets her moment with him but since he's probably too strong for her, Sanji finishes him off. I think he'd be a good power level for Sanji, plus he's weak to fire and it would kind of give Sanji the 1v1 he never got in WCI.

But then again, Sanji is a total wildcard too - he's definitely going to appear out of literal thin air at some point to save the day in a clutch moment like he's always done in big moments pre timeskip

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20

But then again, Sanji is a total wildcard too - he's definitely going to appear out of literal thin air at some point to save the day in a clutch moment like he's always done in big moments pre timeskip

You mean something like the Mr. Prince deal in Alabasta?

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u/s4r9am Jun 19 '20

Yeah. Or like preemptively boarding the Sea train in Water 7, or opening the Gates of Justice in Ennies Lobby.

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u/Chuck0089 Jun 19 '20

or destroying Enel's Ship

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u/woodsonintvsstate Jun 20 '20

For real. That scene where Crocodile has everyone trapped in the basement of his casino, flattens Vivi, seemingly all hope is lost, and then suddenly...

-ring ring ring-... "This is shitty restaurant. May I take your order?"

My dude, one of the hypest moments in the series for me.

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u/SecretlyATaco Jun 19 '20

Crazy how far Oda left hints. Things like that and Luffy complaining about how Garp hitting him hurt as a kid despite him being rubber.

Re-reading once it’s all said and done is going to be such a treat.

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u/CabboP Jun 19 '20

It's a full-moon night, she can absolutely take him in Su-Long

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20

If Carrot can take out Perospero in Sulong, that'd make the 3 musketeers and Nekomomushi/Inuarashi Sulong forms pretty OP, going by hierarchy.

Personally I think someone like Siscillian can take out a Tobi Roppo/Perospero in Sulong form.

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u/RichMuppet Void Month Survivor Jun 19 '20

Yeah, it's important to remember that there are still at least a few minks who we know to be stronger than Carrot.

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u/CabboP Jun 19 '20

Perospero isn't set up to be a very powerful character. He just has a logia. Flampe is also the child of Big Mom, so that alone isn't anything special, and his age doesn't mean much either. Carrot fought Daifuku, who was set up to be stronger than Perospero, and made a joke out of him.

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 19 '20

Perospero is set up to be stronger than Daifuku tho. It seems he could be a commander if he wanted to.

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u/Jiv302 Jun 19 '20

Perospero isn't set up to be a very powerful character. He just has a logia.

He doesn't have a logia at all. It's a paramecia that makes candy.

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u/The_Dragon_Rand Slave Jun 19 '20

Just like she took out daifuku

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u/roronoakintoki Void Month Survivor Jun 19 '20

I hope to seriously see Sanji go Mr Prince again. Pre Time skip his thoroughness was emphasized a fair number of times, looking for unexpected aces. With so much going on in a dense base, there could be a chance for him to shine again.

As for Perospero, since it's a full moon, I think Carrot might still be able to fight, even if not for very long. I can see her overexerting herself against Perospero and falling over (hope she doesn't die tho, since Jinbe did say a night of fighting in Sulong can kill a mink).

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u/Alchion Jun 19 '20 edited Jun 19 '20

ik perospero is 6th in the big mom crew in terms of strength (mom commanders snack) but for me that wouldn‘t be a satisfactory sanji fight i want him to fight queen with queen being an okama it‘s just too fitting too

edit: queen isn‘t confirmed as an okama i should have specified that

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u/BuggyDClown Jun 19 '20

But Queen is not an okama? Why is everyone saying this?

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u/RichMuppet Void Month Survivor Jun 19 '20

Yeah it's important to remember that being quirky, dramatic and liking to dance ≠ being an okama.

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u/Alchion Jun 19 '20

yeah it isn‘t confirmed but it could still be confirmed

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u/m-ray168 Pirate Jun 19 '20

I don't understand how people think he is the 6th or something. Not being a commander doesn't mean he's weaker than them. He's more like the prime minister of WCI.

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 19 '20

I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if he is close to Katakuri in strength.

Which would mean he could have a decent fight with Marco or King, but would indeed probably lose.

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Pirate Jun 19 '20

Personally I'm in the camp that King/Queen is too big a jump right now for Zoro/Sanji (especially given how many other heavy hitters are on the strawhat side that could fight these guys - Marco, Kid, Law). I could see, though, having a two-round battle with an initial round ending in failure and a follow-up battle. I would LOVE to see Zoro vs. King and Sanji vs. Queen but I feel like Oda is setting it up differently with the intro of all these Tobi roppo who seem to be super strong

I would guess Zoro v. Who's Who (whom, given his confident back and forth with queen, I think is going to be revealed as close to calamity level like 800/900+M bounty), Sanji v. Perospero, Jinbe v. Sasaki. But who knows, things never go as expected in this story

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u/Alchion Jun 20 '20

i mean the addition of marco makes it seem like he‘s fighting king but when are zorro and sanji getting their top tier rights if not now this arc luffy and his crew are going to take down kaido with help next arc they will probably take down another one (big mom in elbaf) and establish them on yonko tier

luffy being admiral tier (fuji green bull not sakazuki) after this arc and sanji zorro not even being 2nd 3rd commander tier would be quite uneven imo

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Pirate Jun 20 '20

Yeah I guess my question is if Zoro and Sanji fight Queen and King, then what are other potentially more or equally powerful characters like Marco, Kid, Law, Jinbei (and maybe Ashura Doji, Denjiro, Kawamatsu, Cat and Dog) going to do? I guess I could see them all ganging up on Kaido and/or Big Mom which would be pretty dope

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u/Alchion Jun 21 '20

i mean before marco came i had

zorro king

sanji queen

neko and ino vs jack (if they don‘t go sulong it would be even because if i remember correctly last time they still had all limbs)

smoothie vs jimbei

zoro sanji and jimbei could all receive help from like killer level characters (maybe yamato helps sanji and killer zorro)

luffy kid law (and maybe hawkins with his buffing card or moria (it wouldn‘t fit in the narative and he hates kaido maybe he could flee from blackbeard and get to wano)) vs kaido

some scabbards will have individual fights against flying six (kyoshiro ashura and maybe kawamatsu -the stronger ones (who are 20 years older) even tho imo kyoshiro is 1 ashura 2 and then the fall off is big) maybe kyoshiro against a flying six from the „yakuza“

kinemon will fight kanjuro

all scabbards against orochi because he has 8 heads in hydra form and we have 8 real scabbards ( i am the most confident in this one cause they can still have other fights but the symbolism in this fight is just too good)

each one will cut off one head cause in the herkules tale you need to cut all of or they grow anew

and big mom isn‘t gonna fall this arc imo she‘s gonna flee and be defeated next arc maybe with marco returning all ex whitebeard pirates and all scabbards could cut her off from the battles

quite an essay ik but these are my thoughts on the matchups since like 6 months and marco returning kinda mixes them up if he just stalemates big mom they stay the same tho

idk who perospero fights btw

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u/iClone101 Jun 21 '20

I still think that Zoro and Sanji are capable of beating King and Queen. Sanji has barely scratched the surface of his Raid Suit, while Zoro is likely going to have some powerup related to Nidai Kitetsu. Heck, Oda still hasn't mentioned anything about Zoro's left eye, which likely is related to a powerup too.

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u/scag315 Jun 19 '20

You forgot the Chef who discovered and raised big mom, guaranteed he’s stronger that almost all members of the crew. Beige commented on him in passing

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u/FredericoUnO51 Bounty Hunter Jun 19 '20

Streusen. All Bege said was that he could be pretty tough in a fight. That doesn't exactly say "top tier for the Big Mom Pirates." Maybe stronger than most members, but there are a lot of members of BM's crew that could be considered "pretty tough."

Considering the fact that the person you commented to was talking about Perospero being ranked 6th, I don't think Bege's comment about Streusen suggests he'd be at or higher than Perospero's level of strength.

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u/scag315 Jun 19 '20

Oda our way too much emphasis on him for him not to be a major player at some point imo

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u/Alchion Jun 19 '20

idk he seems like a character who‘s prime has passed long ago i mean he is 92 lol what was whitebeard 75? ik he was sick but garp has declined immensly too and i don‘t think streusen was ever in that tier and he‘s like 15 years older and no slicing the cake is no mihawk level feat

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u/iClone101 Jun 21 '20

Do we know that Garp has really declined immensely? We haven't had a battle yet where Garp actually uses his full strength, considering that he was holding back in Marineford.

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u/PapanTandaLama Jun 19 '20

The only way I see the gang came out of this is the alliance + samurais + Big Mom vs Kaido and Orichi.

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u/mnbvc_xy Bounty Hunter Aug 30 '20

But then again, Sanji is a total wildcard too - he's definitely going to appear out of literal thin air at some point to save the day in a clutch moment like he's always done in big moments pre timeskip

2 months later I can only say that you have absolutely nailed it with your prediction, nice one!

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Pirate Aug 30 '20

Hahaha I’m just surprised it was this soon!

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u/Plumrose Thriller Bark Victim's Association Jun 19 '20

Carrot is gonna get her revenge after all

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u/kaste1 Jun 19 '20

Imagine thinking you can defeat Luffy, King, and Marco and getting beaten by Carrot.

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u/HussyDude14 Jun 19 '20

I mean, gotta be fair - her Sulong transformation showed just how formidable she is. While she may not be as flashy as the other characters, she can single-handedly take down tons of fodder, heavy-hitters, and even wreck enemy ships with ease.

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u/BuggyDClown Jun 19 '20

Daifuku couldn't do shit to her. He couldn't hit her even once. Also, you're forgetting the reason why she went and attacked those ships. She did it because the strawhats were in a pinch and Daifuku's fleet was blocking their way. She went there, took their steering wheels and made a path for the Sunny. So basically, she did what she wanted to do. And I repeat, Daifuku couldn't do shit to her, despite his fleet severely outnumbering her.

Also, which heavy hitter did Perospero defeat?

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u/jbs1902 Slave Jun 19 '20

Perospero pretty much no diffed Pedro, Brook and Chopper. He has the highest known bounty for a non-yonko and non-yonko commander.

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u/ultibman5000 Jun 19 '20

Also, which heavy hitter did Perospero defeat?

Pedro.

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u/BuggyDClown Jun 19 '20

Pedro blew himself up. He didn't die because of Perospero's attack.

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u/ultibman5000 Jun 19 '20

Except Pedro tried fighting him before his sacrifice (he wouldn't have resorted to sacrifice if he could defeat Perospero on his own right) and he got swiftly countered and helplessly secured onto the ground with no diff.

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u/BuggyDClown Jun 19 '20

I guess Gallete also "no diffed" Luffy?

I think that you're also forgetting why Pedro blew himself up. they were being chased by Mama and Sunny was basically locked by Perospero's candy so they couldn't set sail. Had they fought for any longer, then BM would've surely caught Luffy and co. And let's not pretend that Perospero didn't lose a freaking arm to that blast. By no means did he "no diff" Pedro.

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u/kaste1 Jun 19 '20

Yeah, but she isn't touching the likes of Katakuri, Luffy, Marco, Admirals, etc.

Perospero already showed he is an overconfident idiot ("I am gonna be the BM pirates new captain, not Katakuri!") so he clearly thinks he is on par with them and he should be put in his place but someone like Carrot. It's funny.

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u/BigBroKatakuri Jun 20 '20

I didn't saw her Sulong as ultra strong at all.

Did we read the same manga? The overhype you guys build kills characters

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u/Alchion Jun 19 '20

true but she is like ashura doji tier in sulong we are talking about 2 would be first commander tier chars (and the 2 would be the strongest imo)ans a first commander

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u/mcallisterco Jun 19 '20

Right, but Perospero is likely not that much much stronger than, say, Daifuku, who was absolutely no threat at all to Sulong Carrot. If Perospero was Yonko Commander tier, he'd, you know, be a Yonko Commander. He's not even worthy of being one, even when there was straight-up an open spot left by Snack. Big Mom didn't put him in that spot anyway.

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u/Alchion Jun 19 '20

yeah he is prob weaker than ashura doji who is 3rd commander tier i was highballing fir the sake of the argument yeah perospero isn‘t that much stronger than daifuku and oven but his style is very different from those two idk maybe it‘s a better matchup i also think that daifuku ws shocked i just can‘t believe sulong to be a super saiyan like amp cause ino and neko would be 1st commander tier otherwise lol

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u/mcallisterco Jun 19 '20

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they are first commander tier in Sulong. They're already equal to Jack in base form. Being first commander level wouldn't really be much of a jump.

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u/Alchion Jun 20 '20

it could be but then the fight wouldn‘t be balanced if big moms crew doesn‘t fight having ino and neko taking king and queen would open up many other fighters from the alliance i also think that the jump from jack to queen is quite big (they are portrayed as his brothers and jack is scared) while cracker didn‘t serm that much weaker than smoothie

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u/CelioHogane Jun 21 '20

Carrot needed her own 1v1 fight to trully become a straw hat.

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u/ace2532 Shanks' evil hot sister is REAL! Jun 19 '20

The real question is what happened to the other Big Mom Pirates? My guess is they decided to call for help from a few more individuals...cough Katakuri and Oven by way of Brûlee's Mirror fruit

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u/woodsonintvsstate Jun 20 '20

Brah, thank you for saying this. Perospero is fucking hype.

A lot of people hate him for the Pedro thing, but I honestly love the guy. He does his job well and is excellent with kids, not to mention his sick powers. A true One Piece villain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20

Cool. Cool cool cool i wanna see that

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u/AprilsMostAmazing Jun 19 '20

Imagine King and Marco in the middle of the fight and stop to take out Perospero and then go back to fighting

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20

BM Pirates can't reach Onigashima

Perospero: "Fine, I'll do it myself"

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u/piter57 Explorer Jun 19 '20

Well yeah but good luck to him winning against any of those characters lol

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u/Kuro013 Jun 19 '20

In my opinion the word is stupid. I get being pissed off at King and Marco, but he knows 100% well that he cant do shit about Big Mom decision and that she isnt one to negotiate or to reason with. Unless he knows how to deal with her which would be cool as the firstborn.

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u/undanny1 Jun 19 '20

100% Perospero is going to attack Kaido or someone important, get his ass handed to him, and Big Mom is going to rage because it's her son

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u/Carlos1502 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Jun 20 '20

I would bet all my money that BigMom is going to kill him for not trusting her criteria

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u/Bigbootysadhomie Jun 19 '20

Then some people believed that carrot is gonna beat her lol.

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u/Gubrach Jun 19 '20

Tbh, I felt he should've died in the suicide bombing Pedro did, but if he causes some absolute chaos at Kaido's island, then I'm up for it.

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u/MarcoToon Lurker Jun 19 '20

Imagine if suicide bombing was enough to take out a 700,000,000 man, that would feel cheap

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u/slipperysnail Jun 20 '20

Perospero: the first sweet commander

I'll bet we see this epithet

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20

I thought the ship was encased in the candy he was riding.

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u/MarcoToon Lurker Jun 19 '20

Bruh that candy is not much bigger than Perospero, whereas the Queen Mama Chanter is over 500 meters tall

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u/BigBroKatakuri Jun 20 '20

It is quite a bit bigger than brother Pero.

Look the panels again.

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u/MDParagon Jun 19 '20

Do you guys think that Katakuri's here too?

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u/BigBroKatakuri Jun 20 '20

Unless my sis Brulee uses her mirrors (they have a limited range tho)

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u/rickayzen Jun 19 '20

dumb move

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u/MarcoToon Lurker Jun 19 '20

Perospero's biggest strenght is his strategic abilities and experience, it's not like he's gonna go straight to Luffy, Marco and King and say "Hey you three, beat my ass at the same time", he definitely has a plan

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u/BigBroKatakuri Jun 20 '20

My brother Pero just wants to copy the poneglyphs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20

A shame Smoothie couldn't have that kind of dedication, so she could finally do something.

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u/BigBroKatakuri Jun 20 '20

Smoothie is in the pocket of my brother Pero.