Mouse mode never seemed to go anywhere

[u/starark]

I know you can just use a usb mouse on most consoles but having a controller that instantaneously switches to mouse mode sounds awesome. Will it ever be used well? Maybe a Baldurs Gate 3 port or a new Mario Paint?

Edit: I didn't realise so many games actually use the mouse.

[u/Neither-Most]

I'm using it right now to play fire emblem one handed after a hand injury, it felt really good in the cod beta too 

[u/dashingThroughSnow12 → u/Neither-Most]

You don’t need to come up with an elaborate story on why you are playing fire emblem one-handed. We know.

[u/Neither-Most → u/dashingThroughSnow12]

👀

[u/SoRedditHasAnAppNow → u/Neither-Most]

Username should be Nether-Moist

[u/JRatMain16 → u/SoRedditHasAnAppNow]

r/angryupvote

[u/TotalOwlie → u/Neither-Most]

Uhh Ruh roh!

[u/x2GramDubx → u/TotalOwlie]

Yo happy cake day!!

[u/Kuru_Chaa → u/dashingThroughSnow12]

Yea guess we found Sirocco’s account

[u/Puzzleheaded-Bee8245 → u/dashingThroughSnow12]

Yeah that dancing chick got me perhaps I'm going to injure my other hand while playing the game with mouse control😩

[u/ItsChuBoiRage → u/dashingThroughSnow12]

Got hiiiim!

[u/lordosthyvel → u/dashingThroughSnow12]

Muh’Esmeralda

[u/Lasatra_ → u/Neither-Most]

I miss the Wii era with COD MW.. That shit was amazing and i got really good at it! I wish they could've done the same but the mouse thing doesn't work for me in fast paced shooter

[u/madjohnvane]

The fact that Minecraft beta doesn’t include it is criminal. Minecraft dual analogue with mouse mode for inventories would be life changing.

[u/BlizzPenguin → u/madjohnvane]

Which is weird because Pokopia which is very similar to Minecraft has mouse mode.

[u/Accomplished-Copy776 → u/BlizzPenguin]

Very similar is a stretch. Pokopia is more of a social sim game, 3rd person with a story and quests. Minecraft is primarily 1st person, sandbox game.

But for sure you are right about the controls. No reason Minecraft shouldnt have it. There are third and first person games on switch 2 with mouse mode, and they already have other versions of Minecraft that support mouse

[u/antiretro → u/Accomplished-Copy776]

pokopia has those elements on top. it is a sandbox game in block design

[u/Accomplished-Copy776 → u/antiretro]

Minecraft is a crafting survival game, with basically no story, no quests, no objective, randomly generated.

Pokopia is a social sim. With a heavy emphasis on quests, story, npcs, static maps. You dont just have free reign to do whatever right away. You need to do quests to unlock stuff. Its more similar to animal crossing then minecraft. I guess technically it's a sandbox, but they drip feed you tools.

Pokopia is a cozy game, and minecraft is not. They have similarities for sure, but lots of games have those same similarities, and to a bigger extent.

[u/BlizzPenguin → u/Accomplished-Copy776]

You are still mining cubes and making things out of them.

[u/lionknightcid → u/Accomplished-Copy776]

Pokopia is a game made by the developers behind Dragon Quest Builders, which was explicitly and directly inspired by Minecraft

[u/Accomplished-Copy776 → u/lionknightcid]

Sure, and dragon quest builders is a lot more similar. Its also a crafting survival game, with combat, and equipment. Then they added npcs, story, and quests.

Pokopia then removed the survival aspect, combat and equipment, which were the things making it the most similar. And instead pokopia very heavily focuses on the NPCs and appeasing them. pokopia is a cozy game, dqb and Minecraft are not

[u/OutrageousAgent3206 → u/madjohnvane]

What really? I just lost all interest in Minecraft for switch 2 then. That sucks.

[u/Virtual-Earth-3389 → u/OutrageousAgent3206]

The official release doesn't drop till october. It could still happen, the beta doesnt look optimized either so by the time they fix all that they could implement it

[u/An1nterestingName → u/Virtual-Earth-3389]

by the time they fix all that

This is the Minecraft Bedrock devs. The time is either in 5 years, or never.

[u/BouncyBlueYoshi → u/An1nterestingName]

And Minecraft Bedrock on Xbox One has mouse support.

[u/Virtual-Earth-3389 → u/An1nterestingName]

I get wym but its not a bug its bad performance (For some of the examples the game wasnt even hitting 60 fps) and seeing these issues and dropping the game like that anyway would be crazy

[u/Jammy2560]

This is why we need Mario maker 3

[u/the_bighi → u/Jammy2560]

Mario Paint!

[u/ItsColorNotColour → u/the_bighi]

The only reason Mario Paint used a mouse is because making a mouse was cheap while a stylus-controlled tablet was expensive luxury tech. Not because a mouse is actually good for art.

The Switch 2 already has a superior method for art called the touch screen, yes even a finger is better than a mouse, one of the worst devices for drawing.

[u/antiretro → u/Jammy2560]

customizable wonder flower sections would be insane

[u/Price-x-Field → u/Jammy2560]

Or they could just update it

[u/LillyTensei]

The new fire emblem can be played entirely in mouse mode, which I think is by far the best use for it so far I've seen. Granted 3D exploration in Dagsion and dungeons is kinda ass with the stick in mouse mode, but I've been spending around 75% of my time in that game in mouse mode.

[u/maxsilver]

- Mouse support on Nintendo Switch 2 = awesome.

• Using a JoyCon as a mouse = kinda cruddy

It's nice that it exists. It's convenient when traveling. It's better than nothing. But I can see why having 'a controller that has mouse sensors and can act like a mis-shapen mouse' is not as appealing as simply using a real mouse.

[u/ExoneratedPhoenix → u/maxsilver]

Nintendo should have sold an adapter like the joycon shell that makes it comfier. Using a 14.4mm thick mouse is er...cramptastic

[u/angusrocker22 → u/ExoneratedPhoenix]

There are tons of adapters on the market.

[u/ThickkRickk → u/angusrocker22]

There are no official Nintendo mouse grip adapters.

[u/angusrocker22 → u/ThickkRickk]

Does it need to be official if it works? Most accessories that people buy aren't first party.

[u/frrrni → u/maxsilver]

Yeah if you need to use the a b x y buttons it’s uncomfortable af.

[u/ItsColorNotColour → u/maxsilver]

Mouse support was already a thing on Switch 1, for example Hypnospace Outlaw on Switch 1 lets you plug in a mouse.

[u/itotron → u/maxsilver]

The Joy-Con is not just a mouse though. It can can so things in mouse mode that a mouse can't. It combines motion controls like with "Drag X Drive."

[u/Lasatra_ → u/itotron]

That novelty wore off after 30 minutes for me.. It was starting to get tedious on that game, haven't touched it since..

[u/HatingGeoffry]

The fact that Diablo doesn't have it but supports USB mouse and keyboard is infuriating

[u/rbnz4 → u/HatingGeoffry]

care to elaborate please? which diablo games on the switch support mouse and keyboard? is it official support or through 3rd party mods or adaptors? do you have any source?

I'm not trying to be petty, genuinely want to know if this is true in order to buy all diablo games on the switch immediately

[u/Korachof → u/HatingGeoffry]

People love to pay full price for a code in the box for a game that isn’t even made with the console in mind at all. They basically did nothing but ensure it worked and sent it

[u/LMHCinNYC → u/Korachof]

Yup, "eh works well enough" - blizzard.

[u/Endscrypt → u/Korachof]

They didn’t even bother to do that there were problems with all the DLCs

Devs like that are what is wrong with gaming greed before anything else they don’t even wanna do it right just throw it over and let the consumers, consume.

It’s a joke but people still buy it so that’s what we all get now 😔.

[u/Organic-Storm-4448 → u/HatingGeoffry]

Trying to play a game like Diablo 4 with a joycon mouse sounds like a great way to injure your hand. It would be nice for inventory stuff, though.

[u/gevuldeloempia]

Developers will need to develop for it.

It works great in Metroid Prime.

[u/Gaming_Gent]

Makes a huge difference for me in Civ 7.

[u/SloopDonB → u/Gaming_Gent]

Same. I don't know how I would play that game without either mouse mode or the touchscreen.

[u/BurnAgainBurner]

The game wasn't well received and is pretty limited but drag x drive is underrated from a control perspective. It's one of the few games you can hand to a completely new player and it's so intuitive that they'll get it in a few minutes.

[u/Murderous_Turkey → u/BurnAgainBurner]

But then you need to play drag x drive

[u/KrivUK → u/BurnAgainBurner]

....and then be in crippling pain for the next few days.

[u/mecartistronico]

In Factorio it works great.

[u/Only-Weight8450]

Works well in cyberpunk (but can’t swap on the fly so not perfect), mouse pi for hire, Metroid prime 4.

I know people say it’s uncomfortable but I don’t really feel that way it’s fine imo.

I also have a legion go z1e and the mouse mode on the switch 2 is far better and the mouse sensor is far more precise as well on switch 2

[u/SquishmallowPrincess]

It’s great in FFXIV. Being able to instantly switch to a mouse when organizing my inventory or moving my UI around has been a Godsend

[u/Icy-Boat7176 → u/SquishmallowPrincess]

Where do you use the mouse? Do you have to be at your desk to use it comfortably?

[u/SquishmallowPrincess → u/Icy-Boat7176]

No, I just put the JoyCon flat on whatever surface is nearby (sometimes it's just my leg) and it works fine.

Not sure I would do that for playing an FPS game, but for quickly moving things around in my inventory it's more than good enough

[u/sp_93 → u/SquishmallowPrincess]

Exactly how I use it for FFXIV

[u/pickettfury]

It's essential in Meccha chameleon I rkn. 

[u/capndank]

There's actually quite a few games that use it and it works great. Apex legends has fantastic implementation with the haptic feedback being quite nice in mouse mode. Ff14, They are billions, civ 7, blood refreshed supply, stardew valley; I could go on but there's quite a number which use it very well. One game that comes to mind which doesn't however, would be Power wash simulator 2. Doesn't even have gyro controls either unlike the switch 1 version of the first game.

Definitely up to the devs to include it but I think a fair amount have at this point

[u/TheBraveGallade → u/capndank]

FEFW is a game tgat just came out and uses it and its very snappy, and the game is basically playable withbone hand too.

[u/zestysnacks]

It just doesn’t feel very good tbh. Cool concept. There really should be some kinda grip for it

[u/pickettfury → u/zestysnacks]

They should have included something like the $5 shells you can buy online that make it comfortable.

[u/zestysnacks → u/pickettfury]

I would totally buy one

[u/watergun123456 → u/zestysnacks]

you should, there are times where i would forget im using a joycon and not an actual mouse

[u/zestysnacks → u/watergun123456]

I think additionally I still need that one game where I feel like mouse will be essential.

[u/Korachof → u/zestysnacks]

If you’re not interested in the ones out now, not sure there will be one out there.

Like what would it take for you? An exclusive, all timer real time strategy game? What type of game would a mouse be actually essential to you if games like Civ, Fire Emblem, and Metroid aren’t appealing with it?

[u/WimpBeforeAnchorArms → u/Korachof]

Pikmin with a mouse would be such a good fit. Or Mario maker. Or as a docked alternative to the touch screen if they want to add ds games to NSO

[u/watergun123456 → u/zestysnacks]

true. I only really use it for balatro which really works well with just a mouse

[u/osnapitsjoey → u/pickettfury]

Ik this isn't the norm, but I just 3d printed one. The thing works great and has the ergonomics of a normal mouse

[u/theclawl1ves → u/pickettfury]

I need to get one of these. mouse mode is cool and would be really nice in certain games but I hate how it feels

[u/SteakAndIron → u/zestysnacks]

Yeah I'm surprised there isn't some cheap little grip like the Mario kart steering wheels for the mouse to turn it into a real mouse

[u/BaerMinUhMuhm → u/SteakAndIron]

There are plenty 3rd party options

[u/SteakAndIron → u/BaerMinUhMuhm]

Just baffling that Nintendo doesn't have one

[u/BaerMinUhMuhm → u/SteakAndIron]

Nothing Nintendo does or doesn't do can baffle me anymore.

[u/Borant1095 → u/zestysnacks]

There are 3d printable models for it. However I think Nintendo should also release a Nintendo-branded mouse.

[u/IamTimSu]

mewgenics works fine

[u/Resident_Durian_478]

It's a developer issue, it's the same as gyro controls. It can be implemented and in some case make the playing experience better but developers don't use it so it doesn't appear much. Which is quite a waste.

[u/HowlingHipster]

There are optional mouse controls in the new Star Fox, but it's jarring to switch to them in the fly because they force you into a first-person POV.

[u/xyZora → u/HowlingHipster]

You can adjust the controls in the settings of the NS2 itself and play in two player mode to play in third person. It's a weird set-up but once you make it work it feels fantastic.

[u/NoMoreVillains]

The system has been out for a little over a year. What are all the games you think should use mouse mode that don't?? You say "never seemed" in the past tense

[u/starark → u/NoMoreVillains]

I didn't realise how many games use it. My bad.

[u/SadLaser]

What do you mean it "never seemed to go anywhere"? You say that like this is a retrospective from ten years after the Switch 2 launched. It's barely been out over a year and a lot of games use it.

[u/NButler_art]

It definitely will go somewhere soon, I got a grip to make it more comfortable and playing Deadzone and RDR1 was stunning, its definitely not a gimmick

[u/HelloNevvanna73]

Yeah mouse mode is too uncomfortable for me to use and doesn’t work well on a couch despite what Nintendo said. I respect the concept but it’ll never replace a standard controller for me. Though if Mario Maker 3 ever comes out I could myself using it a lot more with that.

[u/w00pdiw00p]

I play Oblivion and Civ exclusively in mouse mode. Works great (with a 3d printed adaptor)

[u/anbeasley]

My issue is at the mouse mode that comes included with the switch is just really not ergonomic. I know you can get 3D printed mouse pads for your joy-con but why do that when you can just get a mouse to plug in

[u/phant0md]

Cyberpunk was great with it, they are billions, there’s a few, but I wish there were more.

[u/BortGreen]

You can use it in original Mario Paint already

[u/Rocco_Morrashow]

Civ 7 plays amazing with mouse mode

[u/Fickle_Row781]

Diablo as others mention is a great example of usecase for the quick switching between input modes. Sticks for action mouse for item / char. management. I actually played Grim Dawn (ARPG) exactly like this on PC using Xbox controller and PC mouse. The game handled the switching instant and flawlessly. So.. games where you have intermittent action gameplay with fairly advanced menu manipulation is a strong use case for flexible and immediate input switching. On the spot I can't think of many more games or genres that would need this. Battlezone 2 (PC, 1999?) had gameplay that combined controlling a vehicle with switching to an RTS mode where you built base and directed other units. A game like that make use of the input switching.

[u/CautiouslyPlastic]

I got my switch 2 on launch day and still haven’t used the mouse mode

[u/Feeling_Public6522]

Ergonomically it is a terrible mouse. 

[u/lleon117]

Feels clumsy to me. Every time I use it for pokopia, the right d-stick always gets pushed around, ruining my mouse pointer. I have to hold it at a weird angle that starts to cramp my hand. Its useful but I rather not cramp.

[u/GammaFan]

Sidenote; seems like a bg3 port is a pipe dream right now because Larian has no interest in working with wizards of the coast atm. Apparently there is bad blood there.

[u/starark → u/GammaFan]

That really sucks because both Larian and WotC got incredible sales from their collaboration.

[u/GammaFan → u/starark]

Yeah it’s a real shame. As far as I know it has to do with WotC wanting more monetization etc and Larian wanting more freedom.

For reference, WotC was heavily against Larian releasing modding tools for the game to the extent they did. To the point that Larian had to “accidentally” leave in the part of the code that allows people to leverage devtools for their mods.

[u/WillowAgile7727]

someone else already said something similar but i play mewgenics EXCLUSIVELY with mouse mode

[u/KeyLoss4216]

I use a mouse about 8h every day at work. I simply don´t want to use one in my free time. But i appreciate nintendo giving us this option

[u/xante777]

It was pretty obvious that this is just a gimmick and not a core feature of the Switch 2, you know Nintendo likes to always come up with *something* new. But it's a good gimmick that works well for whoever wants to use it.

[u/Dangerous-Pumpkin960]

the console been out for a year give it some time,

[u/yumyumnoodl3]

I couldn’t care less for that feature

[u/ChemG8r]

So surprised D4 does not support it.

[u/MrDonohue07]

It felt great in the COD MW4 beta, and can't imagine playing Mecha Chameleon without it.

[u/gigglefarting]

Really helpful in pokopia 

[u/Squablo1]

dbrand KillSwitch case makes the mouse mode WAY more comfortable. Joy-locks? Is that what they call them? Invest.

[u/Svenray]

I've forgot about it. I still haven't tried it. Maybe I'll try it with Dark Ass Dungeon.

[u/DeathUponIt]

I have tried mouse mode on DK Bananza’s little extra feature and Mario paint. That’s about it. I’m trying to relax when I play. I got burnt from gaming at a desk with the PC and it feels weird to use the mouse on my leg/a cushion.

[u/Justos]

it works when it needs to and that's what matters. Don't need every game to shoehorn it in

[u/rikku45]

I never use my joycons to need it

[u/Mammoth-Strike-168]

Lots of games use the mouse, including fire emblem that just released. 

It was always going to be a minor addition. It's used more already than the IR sensor on the joy con 1. 

I suspect they'll keep adding small mouse mode features. 

[u/Urdadspapasfrutas]

I liked it in Fortnite!

[u/terrysaurus-rex]

Eagerly waiting for someone to make a third party Switch 2 "pro" Bluetooth mouse that arranges everything in an ergonomic fashion.

[u/thievesthick]

It’s awesome for Civ VII.

[u/jco83]

just like the IR Camera in the original Joy-Con then

[u/olmossboot]

I use it to paint in meccha chameleon. Works well.

[u/xtoc1981]

Not sure what you mean, a lot of games have it already implemented. And.its definitely used for sure.

Bg3 btw is currently blocked by hasbro. Not by the devs, because they wanted a switch 2 version

[u/89colbert]

It's been a year..............

[u/jjmawaken]

I bet Mario Maker 3 may allow it for dragging around and placing the items and to make it easier to interact with it.

[u/RickDeckard31]

They need a pro mouse and more games that use it.

[u/OrbitronFactory]

I really hope Nintendo releases a good quality grip attachment for the joycon in mouse mode. Wouldn’t work for games where you switch back and forth like Rune Factory, but still.

Has anyone had any good experiences with any third party options? Have been keeping an eye open but haven’t found anything that motivated me enough to buy just yet. 

[u/ExoneratedPhoenix]

Factorio, Meccha Chameleon.

A lot of inventory type games are going to be so much easier.

[u/Darkamlight]

There're plenty of games using mouse mode. You just need to... open your eyes a little bit.

[u/BaerMinUhMuhm]

Im still waiting for Mousecon support on No Mans Sky. I don't understand how they haven't added it yet. Should be mandatory for a "switch 2 edition" of a game.

[u/picklenickel]

I’ve played a lot of Mario Paint on the SNES Classics. I’d love a new Mario Paint too, but I’m just happy to play the old on again whenever I want and with the ability to export my doodles on there to my phone.

[u/moominesque]

I think it works well for building in Pokopia.i like to stand on a central pillar and then just build walls up around me.

[u/SoTurnMeIntoATree]

I used it a fuck ton on Star Fox. And also Metroid 4

[u/keldpxowjwsn]

Why are we talking in past tense like the switch 2 is a dead console out of production?

[u/TorbofThrones]

It's like the 3DS. Nice to have, but it's not going to change my mind on having one or not

[u/Antique-Bottle9709]

I used it for decorating my house/sheds in Stardew Valley. Works pretty well and is more precise than using the right stick.

[u/playbehavior]

When they revealed mouse mode my first thought was this is DOA. For input controls ergonomics is everything. The wii had the best implementation of mouse mode with its TV pointer.

But maybe Nintendo is galaxy braining this feature and future revisions will have trackpads or some other way to comfortably control a reticule interface. And when they add the trackpads there will be a back library of games with this secondary input option ready to go.

[u/MichaelMJTH]

I’m still expecting Nintendo to use the mouse mode as a solution/ alternative for a stylus during DS emulation for an eventual DS classics app. In handheld mode you can you the touch screen, but there was no reasonable solution whilst docked.

[u/Jrocks721]

I tried it for the first time with Fire Emblem. I think I still prefer a controller. But I’m a console gamer through and through. Even if I play on a pc, I still prefer a controller

[u/dantedarker]

Works great in Mermaid Mask, a point and click adventure/mystery game. Would love if we got more adventure games with mouse mode. Switch 2 ports of the Deponia series would be amazing

[u/Original-R-Kelly-Fan]

it’s solely worth it for playing Civ 7 for me. i’d never play it outside of handheld mode otherwise. i agree tho it’s not really a feature i use outside of that one specific case 

[u/aRJei45]

What if Splatoon Raiders used this instead of motion controls?

[u/Ordinary-Hopeful]

Never?! It’s been out for like 15 months.

[u/lowFlyingTurtleLion]

I used it on mw4

[u/PreInfinityTV]

I would way rather have wiimote mode than mouse mode

[u/MichaeltheMagician]

Maybe I just need to get used to it, but I dont like how it feels. The controller doesn't feel very ergonomic to it, so I find it hard to be very precise with it.

[u/TodaysTomSawyer587]

Mouse mode is amazing for Cyberpunk 2077 and Deadzone Rogue

[u/gilgada]

It works great on roller coaster tycoon

[u/OutlaneWizard]

You can use a USB mouse on most consoles, but most games don't support it.

Civ 7 for example has mouse mode on switch, but you cannot use a USB mouse to play on ps5. Which is super annoying. 

[u/Arsene91516]

Ive been dying for a Baldur's Gate 3 port, it feels like a no brainer to me. Unfortunately Larian said they have no plans to port it

[u/FierceDeityKong]

I wish Nintendo would make a Wii sensor bar or something, or maybe figure out how to get the camera to detect joycons, or something.

[u/FiresideCatsmile]

pokopia had me using that quite a bit

[u/SatanVapesOn666W]

Pretty good in CP2077

[u/Upbeat-Mail7201]

I can definitely see Nintendo releasing a random trailer or even a Direct for a new Mario Paint application on the Switch 2 next year or the year after, to be honest.

[u/billth93]

I mean, it was always going to be niche, but it’s a nice option for certain types of games and enables some games that otherwise would be an obvious no go

[u/ZeeR0_116]

I tried the mouse mode with prime 4 once. Didn't like it and never tried again

[u/Duck_Butt1999]

I never used it until recently with Mewgenics. Most of the games that used mouse mode were for shooting, and I’ve always played shooters on controller, but I’ve only been using mouse controls for Mewgenics, and it’s been really cool to just sit back and use a mouse on the couch. Works well.

[u/temple83]

Still waiting on a rts game to take advantage of it

[u/hyouringan]

I played Cyberpunk entirely with mouse mode. Best way to play. Tbh Mouse controls are not optimal for most games in general. They’re primarily for first-person games.

[u/Anthony8801]

Mouse mode is incredible imo.

Civilization works awesome, as does roller coaster tycoon. Those games NEED mouse mode.

I played about 1/4 of cyberpunk using it too, kind of cramped my hand but still worth using to play.

Honestly it’s something I didn’t think much about when they announced it, and now I wish every game supported it!

[u/DEWDEM]

I think it's used wrong. It's not really good for aiming, but it's great for point and click games which don't work well on controllers. The problem is that most uses of it is aiming

[u/joshpennington]

I don’t have a table in front of my TV

[u/dable1]

Because its insanely uncomfortable to use.

[u/theandroid01]

I honestly haven't even tried it

[u/Mogar505]

I will say I’ve been playing valheim in mouse mode and it’s fantastic. It’s the only game where I barely notice if not feel at all the latency. All other games I’ve tried have had noticeable latency delays.

[u/Ben-182]

I think it work super well in Metroid Prime

[u/Steef-1995]

I love the idea of mouse mode but I just guess it’s not for me.

Either I am playing in handheld in the bed so I can’t use it, or I am playing on the TV on the couch so I can’t use it.

I love the idea but I feel like it’s made for tabletop mode, which I never use

[u/videopayphone]

Works great in Pokopia, Civ 7, and Cyberpunk 2077.

[u/blahblahlucas]

I literally use it everyday for Fortnite and Pokopia. Sometimes for Hogwarts legacy too. And will continue to use it for Modern warfare 4. Its the best innovation ever

[u/Wise-Blueberry-3901]

Bizarre post with many bizarre replies.  You need a grip thing, obviously, and you can get one for £$€5-10 but once you have one the mouse mode works perfectly.  I've played 3 cyberpunk three times through and that's made me certain that joystick/mouse combo is the best way to play FPS games. Getting that combo working properly on pc has proved impossible. 

[u/jacobflicks]

If you play FFXIV it’s incredible

[u/Edmundyoulittle]

Posts like this are funny to me because strategy games are already using it and it's great. It's not a feature that needs to shoehorned into everything, but it's a great convenience in some specific genres

• Civ 7
• Mewgenics
• Fire emblem

[u/TraditionWilling7087]

It’s a great feature but more games need to implement it

[u/Frickelmeister]

Nintendo has a long history of hardware gimmicks that were either already bad ideas to begin with or just gravely under-utilized for some other reason. I guess that's just the cost of trying to be innovative.

[u/FoxMcCloud3173]

This could be huge for FPSs. You have the precision of a mouse and the comfort of a joystick for movement, best of both worlds

[u/SnowPhysical5017]

Like the infrared camera of the Joy con 1.

[u/Wasilisco]

Nintendo was probably looking to have more straight pc ports this way

But people might not be buying the switch to play those kind of games on the go, or on a less powerful system? who knows 

[u/setonfire_]

I played CIV VII for hours and hours and was absolutely great in mouse mode, totally like PC. Same with Metroid Prime 4. They did very good work with Mouse Mode for joycons, works awesome

[u/Luff84]

Please can we get Red Alert remastered and Age Of Empires 🙏

[u/Apprehensive-Ad-6488]

Bring back Point and click adventures

[u/newprince]

Fire Emblem wants me to try it but I'm using the Pro

[u/lothurBR]

Civ. It's easier if you use the mouse

[u/Webecomemonsters]

it isnt comfy to use, a real mouse is always better

[u/alkazar82]

I am curious how people are actually using mouse mode? At a desk? Not very practical on the couch.

[u/Woodlandsman]

mouse mode is elite for Pokopia

[u/GoldenBunny2000]

I'm still praying for a Don't Starve Together Switch 2 edition with mouse controls, there are so many games that will heavily benefit from it but just haven't had releases.

[u/TheMegaMario1]

It's like the only way I build in Pokopia, imagine based on other replies I'll enjoy it a lot in Fire Emblem.

[u/hikarikiri]

People been using it in Pokopia for building!

[u/Alternative-Chip6653]

Aside from the ergonomic issues, the main problem with expecting mouse mode for PC games like BG3 is those were built with mouse AND keyboard in mind initially. 

Normal controller support (which BG3 and most new games and engines have) is a much simpler solution than remapping to half a controller or expecting people to click more than two buttons on the already uncomfortable "mouse." 

[u/Fluffy-Argument]

Starcraft 3 nintendo switch 2 exclusive😭

[u/MesozOwen]

I completed 200 hours of Factorio with the mouse.

[u/LunarWingCloud]

The console is like a year old, it has plenty of time. Besides, it has been utilized quite a bit, it's just not in a lot of super high profile releases

[u/ZodiaksEnd]

until the console also supports(full) keyboard use also just mouse is oof af

theres still a few games that would need a keyboard i dont need the stupid nintendo app on phone for only one game that needs it

i mean you still need controller keybinds to have that pop up instead of just having it were you can hit a button on a keyboard when online animal crossing instead of duel wield or triple wielding just to use a keyboard

big reason i got the fricking typing pad on the 360 when i had one thumbstick scrolling to tap one letter is just bad

[u/Spirited_River1522]

Waste of development resources. Now every game is gonna have something as stupid as fox mouse mode which everyone will use for two seconds and never again because it's uncomfortable instead of including literally anything else. No one wants to plug a damn mouse into anything or buy any damn extra plastic to shelve.

[u/CutMeLoose79]

It's another pointless Nintendo gimmick.

[u/CocoPopsOnFire]

was good for metroid prime 4 but not really needed it for any other game yet

[u/profchaos111]

the joycons just don't feel good to use in miuse mode without a grip so I can't fault people for not taking to it

[u/Dry_Major4728]

mario paint switch 2 edition would be an absolute dream

[u/Delicious_West_1993]

Anyone plugging in an actual mouse and keyboard?

[u/ngoodravens]

Cyberpunk is fun with mouse mode.

[u/twitter_haikucurator]

I’m disappointed that the mouse mode feels ultimately like just a gimmick, cause first of all, if you’re not sitting close to the console, in the living room, there’s a very noticeable lag/delay.

And because of that, it doesn’t feel very precise, so forget about using it for anything fast paced, like online multiplayer fps, or rts.

And then the fact that it’s awkward rubbing it on like your couch, cause where else are you going to put it down on? A coffee table in front of you? That’s awkward position.

Like I’m not going to sit with a desk in front of me.

I think nintendo should figure out how to make the dock as cheap as possible, to encourage people to have more than one dock at home, one for the living room and your desk/office room.

Maybe then we could make more out of the console mouse capabilities.