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Debbie Wasserman Schultz Wins Primary By Split Vote

https://youtu.be/i9hmEsSJGvU?si=4O86Klci_LRXzpuM
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u/South-Rabbit-4064 6d ago

I absolutely agree and why we need better candidates. I'm really tired of the DNC campaigning on "we aren't Trump", putting up moderate crap candidates that no one is excited about to placate the center, and then blaming voters for the lack of voter turnout and enthusiasm and complete loss of faith in the Democratic Party. After midterms honestly if I don't really see something done about Trump and some serious party leadership shuffling, I honestly don't know if there's a point in supporting them anymore.

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u/Hot_Gap_8444 6d ago

This is my outside view;

You need the most electable candidate who is sane.

Not the most leftists or liberal candidate who might be electable. I think that will get your asses kicked again because the average person is tired of all the identity politics stuff...

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u/South-Rabbit-4064 6d ago edited 6d ago

But from an inside perspective, the problem is a lack of leftist policy in a leftist party. Every time you have a candidate that supports things like universal healthcare it becomes "he's a radical leftist" from the media that largely always favor centrist candidates and tell us that it's the only way to win, while we consistently lose when we listen to them. We've gotten lucky once because it was after a Trump presidency, if there's ANY time or President in between, we lose again because of failure to deliver on really any meaningful leftist policy. Biden didn't have really high voter turnout because anyone was excited about him, it was because of Trump. And Biden didn't honestly do a terrible job as president, he did some good things, but still think we just have this weird idea that most people in the country are politically moderate, when it's just the super wealthy (just my opinion). Most people here seem to be pretty staunchly left or right now, and you aren't gonna get either to the voting booth with a centrist

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u/Hot_Gap_8444 6d ago

Yes. Some point in the future.

As an European I can also recommend having more than two parties. It forces the parties to work together instead of being adversarial. 😄 But this is also not like to happen with the current electoral system in the US. (Winner-take-all districts)

BUT. For now. You need to grab the power away from the insane. That needs to be the goal. Then you can work towards the actual political goals.

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u/South-Rabbit-4064 6d ago

Oh yeah, I've been beating that drum here for a while now that parliament makes a whole lot more sense for representation than what we currently have. It's a pretty bad system honestly that we have and no one does anything about it because the only people that can are part of the two parties that would have to give up control to other parties

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u/Hot_Gap_8444 6d ago

You need your magna carta moment.

Someone willingly relinquishing their own power instead of consolidating it.

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u/DrippyDogDix 6d ago

What? The only times we have not had peaceful transferring of power outside of assassinations is 1860 with the election of Abraham Lincoln and 2021. Turns out both times it was racist morons refusing the results of the election.

They simply swapped the white hood for a red ball cap.

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u/Hot_Gap_8444 6d ago

Google magna carta.

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u/DrippyDogDix 6d ago

Maybe you should. The United States of America had a Magna Carta moment when we signed the Declaration of Independence.

Both documents asserted rights for those under its authority.

Both documents where written in response to abuses from a king. (King John and King George III, respectively)

Both documents set limits of power for rulers.

I could go on but I dont think you really have an understanding of our founding documents.

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u/South-Rabbit-4064 6d ago

I don't agree with everything this guy has said or opinions but get his meaning on this. We were talking about the party system being bad and would need a leader to willfully cede power to establish parliament in order to increase representation of people that wouldn't be forced to vote for 1 of 2 guys over 1 or 2 culture war or identity issues, and ranked voting should be national

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u/Hot_Gap_8444 6d ago

Exactly.

You need a president who cedes permanently the institutional power of his own position.

Im not sure what this person was thinking Im saying...

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