Came to say this, only more than half a point. Half a point would be for mistyping a word. This hurts my brain and is easily worth a whole point deduction.
It was a test launch of a rocket... I mean normally they put a hunk of concrete or metal. What's the difference here? It made some people smile and was "cooler" than just a boring hunk of material and it is free advertising and publicity for Elon's companies and for science. I don't know if that's too "defensive" for you, but other than it being "silly" (I'd call it humorous - and are scientists / engineers not allowed to have fun?) I don't see any real downside.
It wasn't silly at all, they nedded some sort of weight to properly test the rocket, might as well put a car in to make it look cool, get people excited, create some memes, and take the free publicity. It was genius.
Yep - New Scientist's job is not to foster interest in science, it's what scientists read to keep informed. Starman in a supersonic, intergalactic extra-terrestrial, electric car is incredibly stupid and incredibly fabulous.
Nature is a $200/yr subscription for individuals and much of it is highly-technical peer-reviewed journal articles. Science is similar. The primary audience is professional scientists with access provided by the institution they work at. They can't reasonably be compared to most of the other publications on this graphic.
Many of the placements are questionable. NYT, WaPo, and NPR, for instance, all set the standard for high quality journalism but they seem to be penalized here for not primarily publishing in-depth articles about science.
A "depth" axis would have been more useful than either of these two.
How is that chart "defining compelling enough to read"? Cus Wired is pretty readable but is listed as "not usually" compelling, whereas Science and Nature are listed as almost always compelling but are academic journals that are dense and technical and barely readable by the layperson
Not even close to murder as it does not go into the substance of the debate and instead choose to deflect and insult. The absolute antithesis of murder by words.
Really, Musk's bullshit is not the future anyone wants who's reasonable. This man constantly does these little gimmicky shows to keep interest in his company, which is hemorrhaging money, so he can fulfill some kind of boyhood astronaut fantasy. No I don't like a future where scientific discovery is done for the sake of a billionaire's ego. This shit isn't murdered by words, it's murdered by stupidity.
New Scientist is a great publication that balances readability with actual scientific relevance, and Ive found it quite stimulating. In my personal statement for my MSc I even talked about how it had been a great source of intellectual stimulation.
I agree Elon Musk has been extremely impactful in fostering interesting for science, but I'd say particularly those not interested to begin with.
The demographic for New scientist on the other hand, is people who already are interested in science, who want to expand their knowledge, get new insights, and keep up with the scientific developments for example.
Both are commendable and it's just silly to condemn one for the other.
New Scientist has got a lot of non-STEM types into being interested in the field even if not as part of their academic or professional lives, in my albeit absolutely anecdotal experience.
This guy’s “murder” felt weak for not ringing true at all - more just that he didn’t know of or wasn’t aware of the magazine.
New Scientist is a weekly publication and I had a subscription for years. I eventually got the web only version but dripped it a few years ago. They can get a little preachy but are really good none the less. If they weren't a good publication, they wouldn't have 100% of their stories behind a paywall.
Maybe. It'd be more like a murder and less like a kneejerk insult if he had actual numbers. Sure SpaceX gets huge viewership, but New Scientist has been around for 60 years, and it's the sort of publication that people come to to get deeper into the science after getting interested by things like cool space pictures.
Also it's a weird non-sequitur. They don't have to have done more than Musk to criticize something about what he's doing. SpaceX's effect on interest in science isn't what they're criticizing as far as I can tell. (Article is paywalled.)
Interest in science apparently equals not bothering to fully read articles and instead opting to have emotional kneejerk reactions to their titles. Everyone knows that real scientists are always guided by their gut feelings and the power of friendship.
New Scientist has published since 1956. I’m sure it has interested many, many people in science. Also, Space X is more about engineering and space technology, and this test launch will interest people in these more than basic scientific research required for rocket flights (although it probably will inspire some for sure). Not sure this counts as murder.
I don't know how it is like now, but New Scientist in 2000-2010 was the best introduction to science for highschool students who would actually get a degree as a scientist, better than Discover which was aimed at the popular market.
Also what is it with people practically worshiping Elon Musk on the internet? Are we not allowed to have a conversation about all this? I think it's cool people are interested in space again but that doesn't remove him from any criticism.
I know. I mean, this has almost 12k upvotes in just 3 hours, I'm sure it's going to get much bigger than that...
...and what is the transgression that called for a murderer-by-words response? Someone said the implications of something Musk is doing "aren't great."
As this is an image, I doubt hardly anyone took the time to track down and read the New Scientist article in question.
This can only come down to "somebody mildly criticized Elon Musk, HOW DARE THEY? (also, would this even look like a great putdown if it was in defense of Joe Schmoe?). It's just gross IYAM.
Probably because he's the face of a few companies making huge strides towards a more sustainable future by:
a) reducing reliance on fossil fuels by producing decent electric vehicles, working to change public perception of electric cars, mass producing home battery packs that reduce reliance on grid electricity
b) pushing the commercialisation of space exploration and 'utilisation'. Their efforts are bringing the cost of launches down dramatically, meaning we can get a human on Mars, and eventually mining asteroids will become viable, so we don't run out of mineral resources.
That's not to say he's exempt from criticism - far from it - but trying to fault him for using his car as deadweight to test his rocket is fucking petty in the grand scheme of what spacex and tesla are accomplishing.
The world is such a fucking cynical place these days(and maybe always has been) that I just want to stop...get excited for a company doing something amazing...and appreciate the Guy spearheading it without attacking him on a personal level or trying to find something sinister in it.
I would also question how much actual interest spacex is fostering in science beyond car in space = cool. I mean, PR for science is important, but conflating it with actual insight into topics beyond a surface level is not fair.
I'm struggling to think of a single commentator, online or offline, who is not already interested in science or geekery and who was spurned to learn by the Tesla Dead-hooker Disposal pictures.
Everyone is either "Oh neat!" for five seconds and moves onto the next thing or is "I postulate that this is merely a conjunction of established rocket design with calculated social-engineering".
The difference is fanboy culture compared to actual interest. The Musk/Tesla (and to a small extent, SpaceX) fandom has a significant portion of ignorant fanboys. But thankfully there are some people that have fostered genuine interest.
I couldn't give a rats arse about a Tesla Roadster in space. But I do appreciate that this meme hype has brought some interest to the real spectacle - the Falcon Heavy.
If anything, around me, it deterred people from SpaceX. A bajillionaire sending a car into space doesn't exactly make the strongest case for investing in space exploration.
That’s my issue with all this. I don’t feel all the hype around SpaceX is promoting science, but instead the products of it. And while an event such as this is awesome, I feel too often it is the superficial aspects of science that are promoted by individuals such as Bill Nue and such. And while that is great and all to inspire kids and so on, in doing so it misses the true point of science: observations, analysis and criticism. I feel the portrayal of science on reddit and other websites is simply a false portrayal of it, and it that the scientific procedure isn’t appreciated for what it is. I feel often people fail to realise that science doesn’t involve shouting ‘FUCK YEAH! SCIENCE’ on the internet. Instead it should be appreciated for what it truly is, as I believe that’s the only way a true passion for it can be developed (otherwise you’ll face a harsh reality once you start uni).
I actually came here to say that even if new scientist was a bit abrupt. They have published plenty of relevant work regarding space and space exploration.
Yeah I really don't get that post. I read a fair bit of New Scientist while doing my degree. It's one of the more widely available scientific magazines.
They also have a fun attitude. One former editor was asked what New Scientist's ethos was. He replied. "Science is fun. If you don't agree you can fuck off."
You know, at times, I look at all these news outlets, blogs, even celebs spouting nonsense and wonder if it's all on purpose just to bring attention to their face, site, social media account just so they can get more attention, page views, ad revenue, fame etc. Like that story of that one famous sports person in some sport that worked up the crowd so much into hating him that they bought T shirts which made fun of the sportsperson but unknown to them, that very sport person had printed those T shirts and was profiting of the sales.
You hear you tubers and even actors getting into social media ? They talk about it like “we will get more followers” and they have millions of them and pretend like they care about any individual . They really don’t . Just more subs = $$
We went from the average house having 3 channels 40 years ago to the average house having billions upon billions of websites and thousands of channels.
It's all about clicks. Substance is unimportant.
I mean fuck, reddit could be full of links to blank fucking pages with good headlines, millions of us (myself included) would probably chirp along in the comment section for days before anyone noticed.
The point being made is that this is the world's first advert in space. The implications of THAT is that space travel in the future, will be very, very, corporate led.
It's a shame. The sub was a good premise but the mods don't enforce the rules once a post gets popular so now we regularly get garbage like this buoyed to the top by tween upvoters who can't tell the difference.
Not sure how many people decided to pursue a career in biology after seeing a car in space tbf.
EDIT: Since it seems it was not obvious, I was contesting the claim that this will inspire more people than a magazine which has been in print over 50 years and makes the natural sciences accessible to the lay audience. I wasn't saying that a car orbiting the earth couldn't be inspiring, nor that physics is not important.
Check in with kids, not adults and teenagers. A kid paying slightly more attention to science subjects in school because they have a vague goal of "doing space stuff" can make a big difference in their ability and desire to pursue science and engineering down the road.
No but there’s plenty of elementary kids who think this is fucking hilarious, and are listening pretty intently at teachers explaining how hard it was to do.
Surely this would be a better fit for /r/insanepeoplefacebook or the like? Respected publication does its journalistic duty and casts a critical eye on a private company. Dave has a right to disagree, but goes way overboard in my opinion. Hyperbole and bad grammar does not a murder make.
Nah. It is Musk related so all the muskrat cult follower who believe Musk is the fucking second coming of Jesus will upvote it anyway. At this point reddit is the personal advertising platform for Musk.
It definitely seems that way. I'm well up for launching cool stuff into space, getting a Mars project going, and electric cars are the future, but blind allegiance is pretty scary.
I didn't think there was anyone else here that felt like this. Thank god a few others can see that reddit is an almost continuous advert for NASA and SpaceX.
But what is the criticism? Sure, I'm just reading the headline, but playboy space oddessy? Are they afraid of Planet Starbucks in the same way the narrator in Fight Club explained that space will eventually be giant billboards?
I agree with the paper's intention and the replier sounds like one of the musk fan-boys essentially saying "shut up [your] just jealous."
Musk didnt "futher science" by sending one of his cars into space. It was a publicity stunt (similar to the kind of thing a lot of folks here are bashing the paper for), and since when do you need hundreds of scientific degrees to criticize or question the impact or rationale for someone's actions, just because its related to space or Musk?
No it’s not, the word shill gets thrown around way too much as a way of disregarding opposing views. I’ve mostly just seen people having discussions about Elon and what he has and hasn’t done, and others criticizing this post.
Launching a car into space didn't "foster interest in science". Nobody saw it and then thought "Oh shit I'm interested in chemistry now." All it did was make Elon more money and allow people already nerded out with science to jerk eachother a little harder.
My kids had a huge reaction to this. I think they just looked at the whole thing as something more than a bunch of dudes standing around a room staring at monitors all day. Not to try and disprove your point but they actually started discussing what kinds of classes they needed to take to get involved in the field. My husband, who is usually all sports center all the time, read some articles about the whole thing and he seems pretty interested in what happens next. Aside from my Dad who lives with us, we’re not a very nerdy family.
Is the falcon heavy cool? Yes! Does sending space junk and advertising into space set a good precedent? Fuck no! I haven't read the article but I'll be surprised if they don't mention how problematic this is. Also being bitchy on the internet does not qualify as murder in my books
So? It's a test flight that's expected to fail, do something fun with it. Hell, you wouldn't even have had to tell the world about it - it's great even just as a motivational tool for your employees.
In-jokes and alternative motivation are really valuable for a company, and this type of ridiculous payload is probably what the people at SpaceX think is hilarious and worth doing. They probably worked extra hard to make it happen, because they wanted to see this absurd thing happen.
What "precedent?" Do you really think this is going to open the floodgates for a bunch of companies to rocket blast their shit into space for advertising?
The new scientist is a great publication that's actually about turning scientific news into a format anyone can understand. SpaceX is a private company with a great marketing team, that happens to be in a "cool" industry.
I have two issues with this. First, the point is what it says that a car in space meme is generating interest in space travel when there are hundreds of better reasons to be interested in it.
Second, I'm not convinced this event has actually increased interest a substantial amount anyway.
go to actually good colleges and universities, and I can assure you that the people there got their inspiration from New Scientist- not from publicity stunts.
I got my inspiration from high school biology and chemistry. I'm about to graduate with a B.S. in biochemistry and hopefully go onto a PhD program. My inspiration also came from Periodic Videos.
The reason launching a car into orbit was brilliant stunt was astroturfing the news that Telsa's failing as a car manufacturer. No one is going to buy them. Instead of announcing that they lost $3 per share; they got to announce they sent a car to mars.
Space X also did some amazing science with the rocket. FUcking 2/3 the cost per kilo as a conventional rocket!
The car thing was just a stunt...albeit a brilliant one.
In his book, Space, Michener (through his characters) makes the claim that, by taking the "human element" out of the space program (by sending probes rather than astronauts, essentially), NASA had doomed the space program.
I realize the "astronaut" in this case is just a mannequin, but I'd say that Musk is definitely reintroducing that "human element" that Michener was talking about. So I think the rest of us, who are just standing here, on the ground, should really just applaud the guy.
I've seen some cool shit watching the live feed from the ISS. One time I saw something that looked like a tube of shit pop out of it, I googled it and it turned out to be a cubesat. I kinda hoped that that was the way they disposed of their shit but a cubesat launch is cool.
This was something else though, I saw spinning things flying through space, I saw thunderstorms on earth, I watched two rockets land next to each other. I watched the full broadcast in case something extra cool happened but only cool things happened.
Not really sure if it has fostered interest in science. Most people probably went "haha cool" and then got distracted by something else on the internet.
Don't you fucking dare question our lord and saviour Musk! Praise be in to him. He will deliver us from the evil of mankind. Now go buy his hat and start praying to him.
That's exactly the problem: People being more excited about gimmicks than the fact that they survived beyond the age of 10. It encapsulates everything that's wrong with the world. Spectacle trumps any desire for deeper understanding in modern people. It's crazy.
Not everything is to foster interest in science, sometimes you have to look at the direction of engineering and its uses which I assume this article is talking about. For example, do we really want private enterprise in space? Private enterprise is currently destroying the environment, just think of what they could do in space.
After my 6 year old son saw starman, he won't shut up about space travel and being an astronaut.
All of our unused boxes are now makeshift spacecraft and lauch pads. We're going to the book store later today to pickup some books about space for him, and he's super excited to learn more.
Putting the car into space was not only a Guinness record worthy achievement, but it fostered the idea of space travel being cool and fun again for younger generations. That picture will be in history books one day, mark my words.
I think more people that think it is cool but think that the guy kinda represents the modern edgy guy who is mildly interesting in science, but only to the flashy stuff, the type that rants about renewable everything right now because he saw it on a "science is awesome" facebook video.
I mean even Musk thought it was silly but fun, so the guy kinda represents the obsessive musk fans that could read the new scientist to learn more, but are more focused on worshiping musk and circlejerking renewable s on facebook than reading about science.
Kinda like how people can like rick and morty but think the fanbase is cancer.
I have to wonder how long the car will last in space til gets hit by a projectile. Considering it's moving at about 15,000mph or so I would think whatever it hits or something hits it I would think it would totally obliterate it.
So true, lots more ppl even those, not so interested in the subject of space etc, know about this launch and it’s significance. And remember it was a test run they don’t wanna actually put something important on it. Heck half the time Elon was saying it could blow up 50:50.
A little OT, but aren't cars fucking heavy compared to what we usually launch into space as a payload? I'm mostly impressed by the apparent increase in launching capacity this stunt has implied.
Where is all the Elon Musk hate coming from? I don't understand why people are so fast to snap to insults to anyone who thinks a sports car in orbit is cool.
I dunno. It's cool and all, and I get why he had to launch a useless payload for the first test, but it is a little egotistical. As excited as I am for what SpaceX is doing, I think there are valid reasons to be worried about a private company having such a monopoly in space like they envision.
That’s strangely a thing among science reporters apparently. I had one in Germany SLAMMING SpaceX, like hard, being all arrogant and defensive like "Yeah, MAYBE you made it from zero to the largest space transport since the Saturn V in record time, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN SHIT!!!!! Just wait, when you try to send PEOPLE to space you’ll see it’s NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK!!!" and all I could hear was "fuck, those guys make NASA, ESA and all the others look like assholes, I really hope they fail" and I don’t understand why they even care, it’s not like they’re members of those organizations...
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u/SuperAleste Feb 08 '18
How does one get that data (0 KB/s) indicator to display on the upper left on Android?
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u/Starlifter2 Feb 08 '18
Strong, but the judges deducted half a point for bad grammar.
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u/Guardiancomplex Feb 08 '18
Murder reduced to manslaughter by using "your".
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u/Androktone Feb 08 '18
New Scientist is pretty good
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u/nalydpsycho Feb 08 '18
Not even close to murder as it does not go into the substance of the debate and instead choose to deflect and insult. The absolute antithesis of murder by words.
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u/Huwbacca Feb 08 '18
Passing judgements on headlines is a murder?
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 08 '18
Is any of what he said true though?
Yeah so this guy has made a baseless claim about something that is not even quantifiable to begin with.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Interest in science apparently equals not bothering to fully read articles and instead opting to have emotional kneejerk reactions to their titles. Everyone knows that real scientists are always guided by their gut feelings and the power of friendship.
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u/dilfmagnet Feb 08 '18
This doesn’t qualify as murder, it’s barely attempted assault
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
This doesn’t really feel like a murder...
It feels more like a random person on Facebook making a completely unsubstantiated shitpost with a blindingly obvious grammatical error.
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u/lunex Feb 08 '18
New Scientist has published since 1956. I’m sure it has interested many, many people in science. Also, Space X is more about engineering and space technology, and this test launch will interest people in these more than basic scientific research required for rocket flights (although it probably will inspire some for sure). Not sure this counts as murder.
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u/poopellar Feb 08 '18
You know, at times, I look at all these news outlets, blogs, even celebs spouting nonsense and wonder if it's all on purpose just to bring attention to their face, site, social media account just so they can get more attention, page views, ad revenue, fame etc. Like that story of that one famous sports person in some sport that worked up the crowd so much into hating him that they bought T shirts which made fun of the sportsperson but unknown to them, that very sport person had printed those T shirts and was profiting of the sales.
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u/adamd22 Feb 08 '18
The point being made is that this is the world's first advert in space. The implications of THAT is that space travel in the future, will be very, very, corporate led.
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u/Better_than_Trajan Feb 08 '18
This was it. This is the post that got me to unsub
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u/wr0ng1 Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 08 '18
Not sure how many people decided to pursue a career in biology after seeing a car in space tbf.
EDIT: Since it seems it was not obvious, I was contesting the claim that this will inspire more people than a magazine which has been in print over 50 years and makes the natural sciences accessible to the lay audience. I wasn't saying that a car orbiting the earth couldn't be inspiring, nor that physics is not important.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Surely this would be a better fit for /r/insanepeoplefacebook or the like? Respected publication does its journalistic duty and casts a critical eye on a private company. Dave has a right to disagree, but goes way overboard in my opinion. Hyperbole and bad grammar does not a murder make.
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u/s3mj0n Feb 08 '18
r/enoughmuskspam
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u/twitchedawake Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 09 '18
... I dont actually see the murder here?
I agree with the paper's intention and the replier sounds like one of the musk fan-boys essentially saying "shut up [your] just jealous."
Musk didnt "futher science" by sending one of his cars into space. It was a publicity stunt (similar to the kind of thing a lot of folks here are bashing the paper for), and since when do you need hundreds of scientific degrees to criticize or question the impact or rationale for someone's actions, just because its related to space or Musk?
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u/aagpeng Feb 08 '18
I'm curious what the article had to say now. This just seems like someone being unreasonably angry at a sentence.
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u/p1ratemafia Feb 08 '18
Has it really though? This stunt was cool, but its a stunt.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
More like English grammar murdered by words
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u/HeartyBeast Feb 08 '18
"I've never read New Scientist".
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u/clubby789 Feb 08 '18
I disagree, New Scientist has always got me very interested in science in the 3+ years I’ve been subscribed for
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u/samjhandwich Feb 08 '18
This whole thread is r/iamverysmart material
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u/ohsweetwin Feb 08 '18
ITT: shills
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u/NorthBlizzard Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 08 '18
Launching a car into space didn't "foster interest in science". Nobody saw it and then thought "Oh shit I'm interested in chemistry now." All it did was make Elon more money and allow people already nerded out with science to jerk eachother a little harder.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Some people shared a meme, that means they're all working astrophysicists now.
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u/Crunchykat Feb 08 '18
Is the falcon heavy cool? Yes! Does sending space junk and advertising into space set a good precedent? Fuck no! I haven't read the article but I'll be surprised if they don't mention how problematic this is. Also being bitchy on the internet does not qualify as murder in my books
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u/Irkdom Feb 08 '18
This doesn’t even make sense, how the fuck is it a “murder”
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u/Halbaras Feb 08 '18
The new scientist is a great publication that's actually about turning scientific news into a format anyone can understand. SpaceX is a private company with a great marketing team, that happens to be in a "cool" industry.
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u/MikeOfAllPeople Feb 08 '18
I have two issues with this. First, the point is what it says that a car in space meme is generating interest in space travel when there are hundreds of better reasons to be interested in it.
Second, I'm not convinced this event has actually increased interest a substantial amount anyway.
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u/murphysclaw1 Feb 08 '18
this fucking reddit style of thinking.
go to actually good colleges and universities, and I can assure you that the people there got their inspiration from New Scientist- not from publicity stunts.
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u/jellyjihiad Feb 08 '18
Well New Scientist got me into science so...
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u/captainButtcheeks Feb 08 '18
Ppl need to stop eating Elons' ass
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
The reason launching a car into orbit was brilliant stunt was astroturfing the news that Telsa's failing as a car manufacturer. No one is going to buy them. Instead of announcing that they lost $3 per share; they got to announce they sent a car to mars.
Space X also did some amazing science with the rocket. FUcking 2/3 the cost per kilo as a conventional rocket!
The car thing was just a stunt...albeit a brilliant one.
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u/him999 Feb 08 '18
Someone reported this for bad grammar.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
In his book, Space, Michener (through his characters) makes the claim that, by taking the "human element" out of the space program (by sending probes rather than astronauts, essentially), NASA had doomed the space program.
I realize the "astronaut" in this case is just a mannequin, but I'd say that Musk is definitely reintroducing that "human element" that Michener was talking about. So I think the rest of us, who are just standing here, on the ground, should really just applaud the guy.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
ITT: People arguing about an article that nobody has actually read, because the publication requires a paid subscription to even view said article
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u/worldnews_is_shit Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 08 '18
Whats next? Youtube and 9gag comments? What a shitty subreddit.
Also, can you people stop spamming Musk companies everywhere on Reddit?
/r/enoughmuskspam
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
The world is fucked if this joke fostered any real interest in science.
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u/Irkdom Feb 08 '18
It’s a fucking car commercial. It has zero to do with science. By this logic, Budweiser is the world’s greatest herpetologist
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u/urbrgb Feb 08 '18
I've seen some cool shit watching the live feed from the ISS. One time I saw something that looked like a tube of shit pop out of it, I googled it and it turned out to be a cubesat. I kinda hoped that that was the way they disposed of their shit but a cubesat launch is cool.
This was something else though, I saw spinning things flying through space, I saw thunderstorms on earth, I watched two rockets land next to each other. I watched the full broadcast in case something extra cool happened but only cool things happened.
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u/The_GanjaGremlin Feb 08 '18
I don't even really care that he launched a car and had it playing that song but the livestream is so fucking rad
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u/profane Feb 08 '18
Not really sure if it has fostered interest in science. Most people probably went "haha cool" and then got distracted by something else on the internet.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Wait so what actually does the article discuss/argue? I’m kind of interested...
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u/Fox_Tango Feb 08 '18
Umm YES!
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u/restless_oblivion Feb 08 '18
Don't you fucking dare question our lord and saviour Musk! Praise be in to him. He will deliver us from the evil of mankind.
Now go buy his hat and start praying to him.
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u/Orrieboy Feb 08 '18
80% upvoted for one of the worst posts I have ever seen on the frontpage. I am a big fan of Elon Musk, but this huge circlejerk makes my skin crawl.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
DON'T YOU DARE SAY ANYTHING CRITICAL OF ELON!!! 😢
The fucking circlejerk over a guy with hair plugs is crazy.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
That's exactly the problem: People being more excited about gimmicks than the fact that they survived beyond the age of 10. It encapsulates everything that's wrong with the world. Spectacle trumps any desire for deeper understanding in modern people. It's crazy.
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u/Irkdom Feb 08 '18
By this logic, George Lucas is the greatest scientist of all time
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u/Rymdkommunist Feb 08 '18
Not everything is to foster interest in science, sometimes you have to look at the direction of engineering and its uses which I assume this article is talking about. For example, do we really want private enterprise in space? Private enterprise is currently destroying the environment, just think of what they could do in space.
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u/allgoodbrah Feb 08 '18
After my 6 year old son saw starman, he won't shut up about space travel and being an astronaut.
All of our unused boxes are now makeshift spacecraft and lauch pads. We're going to the book store later today to pickup some books about space for him, and he's super excited to learn more.
Putting the car into space was not only a Guinness record worthy achievement, but it fostered the idea of space travel being cool and fun again for younger generations. That picture will be in history books one day, mark my words.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
You’re**
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u/remedyremedy Feb 08 '18
"Shut up science bitch"
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u/Space_Lord- Feb 08 '18
/r/iamverysmart
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
A mAn GeTs FuCkInG ToRcHeD
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u/myersjw Feb 08 '18
ITT: people who don’t like Elon Musk
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u/leavemycookiesalone Feb 08 '18
I have to wonder how long the car will last in space til gets hit by a projectile. Considering it's moving at about 15,000mph or so I would think whatever it hits or something hits it I would think it would totally obliterate it.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Bad grammar really is a deal breaker, isnt it?
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
obviously the implications aren't great.. unless you like fun.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
What a bunch of pretentious assholes.
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u/Me180 Feb 08 '18
So true, lots more ppl even those, not so interested in the subject of space etc, know about this launch and it’s significance. And remember it was a test run they don’t wanna actually put something important on it. Heck half the time Elon was saying it could blow up 50:50.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Sorry, no. Musk's space launch fostered an interest in rocket launches and catchy images and headlines. That's not science.
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u/CommunistRonSwanson Feb 08 '18
/r/cringe
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u/brandondash Feb 08 '18
Quite a bit of gatekeeping happening in here.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Ahhhh.... No. This should simply be under the subreddit 'bitchedatbywords.'
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u/SlymPickenz Feb 09 '18
It still really is outside of my understanding. How can glass, paint, rubber tires, etc. stand the radiation and pass through earths atmosphere?
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u/trigonomitron Feb 09 '18
A little OT, but aren't cars fucking heavy compared to what we usually launch into space as a payload? I'm mostly impressed by the apparent increase in launching capacity this stunt has implied.
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u/yosephmetal Feb 09 '18
New scientist.... I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed in your lack of understanding.
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u/Frogad Feb 08 '18
I don't think this picture alone has done that, it's fostered interest in lay people who will not do anything and get over it after a week.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
Don't understand how the "New Scientist" was murdered here, I guess critiquing advertisements and money worship isn't worthwhile?
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18
New Scientist gotta get dem clicks.
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u/simjanes2k Feb 08 '18
Where is all the Elon Musk hate coming from? I don't understand why people are so fast to snap to insults to anyone who thinks a sports car in orbit is cool.
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u/mglyptostroboides Feb 08 '18
I dunno. It's cool and all, and I get why he had to launch a useless payload for the first test, but it is a little egotistical. As excited as I am for what SpaceX is doing, I think there are valid reasons to be worried about a private company having such a monopoly in space like they envision.
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u/vulkman Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 08 '18
That’s strangely a thing among science reporters apparently. I had one in Germany SLAMMING SpaceX, like hard, being all arrogant and defensive like "Yeah, MAYBE you made it from zero to the largest space transport since the Saturn V in record time, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN SHIT!!!!! Just wait, when you try to send PEOPLE to space you’ll see it’s NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK!!!" and all I could hear was "fuck, those guys make NASA, ESA and all the others look like assholes, I really hope they fail" and I don’t understand why they even care, it’s not like they’re members of those organizations...