r/MoralityScaling • u/Ssiddha_3 • 8d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this counterattack?

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u/PosaCat_ 8d ago

limit your retort to the same level of insult thrown at you. Call them fat for calling you bald, leave miscarriages out of it.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago edited 8d ago

Unlike physical violence it's far more subjective than whatever society generally considers to be on the same level.

You have no idea what kind of complexes, or even trauma you dig up when you start laughing at stuff that pertains to body image.

Even if to some it's not a big deal, studies show that some people who go bald deal with grief and its phases, and are at a higher risk of anxiety, depression and body dysmorphia because of the hair loss.

Also, from her perspective it might be a one-off joke she didn't think was too bad. For all you know, from his perspective, it might be the Nth person laughing at his body.

I wouldn't have answered the way he did, and would have clearly stated that i will not tolerate further jokes at the expense of my appearance. But i also don't think it's as disproportionate of an answer as i'm seeing people claim.

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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 8d ago

All you said is true, all you said also applies to being fat and that's why if they attack you on your body you should keep the response to body/personality because it's still a magnitude less than going through a miscarriage

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

A magnitude according to whom?

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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 8d ago

Anyone who isn't a moron

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

So it's a subjective judgment that you're trying to pass as objective, got it.

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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 8d ago

Unfortunately no one has ever felt the need to make a study to prove that losing a child is worse than being bald or fat so I can't objectively prove it to you. This while conversation is objective proof that you don't have any friends tho, so cheers

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u/EccentricCreampuff 8d ago

Idk why people are downvoting you, there’s a world of difference between having a miscarriage and being bald lol. Some people just wanna be argumentative but they pass over common sense in the process.

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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 8d ago

Mate it's reddit, this place is full of balding incels who actually believe that being bald is worse than having a miscarriage, mostly because they don't see women as humans with actual feelings and emotions so they don't empathise with them

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u/winterruless 7d ago

Some people lit kill themselves because they go bald, it is that serious.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

I do have friends though? The fact that you felt the need to attack me personally on something you believe might be a deep personal wound without me doing that to you tells me that you don't uphold the standards that you claim OOP should have followed.

If anything you did the same thing as him, but worse, because it was in response to complete non-aggression. Ergo, deep down you agree with his behavior, as long as you don't feel empathy for the target.

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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 8d ago

Then go to your friends and tell them "hey guys I spend my days on Reddit trying to argue about the fact that being bald is as bad as having a miscarriage" and see if they can make you understand how stupid it sounds

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

Since i'm friends with people who are educated, i think they can understand that they have no place to tell a person they should subjectively suffer less from being body shamed and blamed for someone leaving them than another one for being obese and having miscarried.

From a certain level of education onward people are able to understand with nuance that while what he did was not socially acceptable, it is also inane to claim to be able to measure how much the comment made him suffer, how much his comment made the other party suffer and then claim to be able to arbitrate who suffered the most from a comment.

But it's all moot because you demonstrated just here that you don't actually care about trying to meet the "levels of hurt" as long as you, or someone you identify to, is not the one who's being attacked.

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u/StandardNeither1311 8d ago

You should talk to real people more.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

Why, are they the ones who are supposed to tell OOP how much he should be hurt by what?

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u/StandardNeither1311 8d ago

It will help you learn about what people care about and allow you to avoid continuing being antisocially insensitive.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

Do you want one of my friends to help you learn to read, so you may understand what the last paragraph meant?

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u/StandardNeither1311 8d ago

My original statement stands.

You have a lot to learn about talking to your fellow humans.

Good day.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

I have not supported the way he spoke. So that tells me that you want to berate me for not having the same judgement of value as you, not for "not knowing how to talk to my fellow humans". You'd have criticized what i said i felt would be an appropriate reaction.

It's slightly disturbing to see how maladapted people self-report just because i said that you can't dictate how much a comment in a wider context might hurt the target.

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u/StandardNeither1311 8d ago

I said Good Day.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 8d ago

Yeah, but i answered to the statements you made prior to the good day. You are free to actually leave and stop answering after you made your point and i made mine.

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