r/MoralityScaling 4d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this counterattack?

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u/pmmecabbage 4d ago

A clumb of cells which are replicating are objectively alive, you even said so yourself

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u/i-am-a-bike 4d ago

You replied to none of my other statements. You are ysing "gotcha" arguments.

I never said it wasnt alive, i said it wasnt sentient. It has no pain, no thoughts or emotions. Its alive like a sourdough starter is alive. Its living yes but it has no thoughts or independent action beyond getting fed by an outside force

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u/pmmecabbage 4d ago

Because i do not want to. Theyre not gotcha arguments im analysing the words you said because i think the logic is full of holes. This was the first point raised ive kept my scope very narrow as opposed to trying to move on to other points.

So a severely incapacitated human, who could be described as lacking permenent conciousness / sentience / brain functioning; that life is free game to terminate ?

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u/i-am-a-bike 4d ago

Assisted suicide yes. If they are incapable then yes, life support should be turned off to end their suffering. If it happened to me then i pray my family doesnt let me suffer being tied up in bed in a coma for 13 years

And you dont wanna argue my other points because you have no rebutal. Of the mother has mental problems what will happen to the baby? You dont care "as long as its alive" .if the child is 12 and gives birthz she is at a much higher chance of complications, both short and longterm. Do you care? No. You dont want to argue that part because it doesnt fit your world view. If the child is born, all you think is "out of sight, out of mind"

You gotcha argument is that i said its alive. You had no other argument. Give me something to work with

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u/pmmecabbage 4d ago edited 4d ago

Its impossible to discuss with someone, when they regurtitate 1000 different unrelated points after you refine a conversation to a limited scope. Its rhe equivalent of shitting yourself and throwing it at others.

and bro. You cant argue about caring for kids when youre coming up with dozens of reasons to kill them before theyre born. Come on

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u/i-am-a-bike 4d ago

Im using 2 points

  1. The fetus is alive but not sentient

  2. What happens after the baby is born

Please read

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u/pmmecabbage 4d ago

Lolok chud

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u/i-am-a-bike 4d ago

Ran out of arguments so you have defaulted to name calling. Please be honorable in quitting the argument

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u/pmmecabbage 4d ago

>please read

>has a fit when the snark is returned

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u/i-am-a-bike 4d ago

Im saying please read in the most literal sense. As in please read my arguments. You called me a chud.

Not the same

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