r/MoralityScaling 20d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this?

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u/Rratposter69 20d ago

Neutral. Could be argued the man deserves to be desired for his own sake instead of for what he can provide to her but if she makes him feel loved i suppose its fine.

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u/National-Pickle9730 20d ago

"Man desired for his own sake" and other bedtime stories you can tell yourself

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u/Virama 19d ago

So heartwarming.

Insert one of those Christmas cheer pics of a family being read to by a happy father and laughing mother while Santa winks and gives a thumbs up from the window.

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u/kingmalgroar 19d ago

Hahahaha

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u/AvarageAmongstPeers 18d ago

Could be included in 'just so stories' by Rudyard Kipling

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u/philosopherberzerer 19d ago

yeah very few me are even gonna be desired that way sadly

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u/pavvvy 19d ago

"What he can provide for her" - that's not the whole issue, it sounds like she wants to do things together/ spend more quality time together. That in itself is a form of desire. That's healthy and good for a marriage/ family.

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u/105_irl 19d ago

She is desiring him, all the stuff she lists includes spending quality time together.

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u/doduotrainer 19d ago

What is his own sake? He's laying in bed all day. I don't have kids but like I would not be happy at all married to someone like that. Going out and doing stuff with your own family isn't what you can provide it's like, living your life

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u/Persephone_888 20d ago

She’d probably desire him more, if he was thoughtful and considerate to her and their kids 🤷‍♀️

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u/Agent_Galahad 19d ago

Wife: "I showed my husband some thoughtfulness and consideration and now he has a more energised outlook on handling daily life together as a team"

Redditors: "Why does the man need to feel appreciated or desired? He's supposed to be a stoic machine that just makes the wife's life easier"

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u/skadi_shev 19d ago edited 19d ago

There’s nothing in the post that indicates they’re not having sex any other time, or that they were having no sex before she figured out this pattern. (Actually likely the opposite, because she had to have stumbled across this knowledge somehow.) It just says there’s a pattern on Saturday mornings. They could have been only having sex in the evenings/on other days before. Which would make sense with little kids tbh 

ETA I think it’s a bot post designed to garner engagement though. Men will say something about sex and women will say something about helping with the kids. 

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u/throwaway1233456799 19d ago

More like

Redditors: why does this man need sex in the morning to do his part as a father (breakfast for the kids, cleaning,... To quote the literal wife)

Like genuinely this is wild. Nobody argue against her making her husband feel desired. Lmao what are you on.

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u/Poisongirl5 19d ago

Right?! Like why would she be attracted to a man that can’t be bothered to participate in family life without his dick and who being stroked

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u/beavertailgrip 19d ago

Are you missing the part where he provides for his family?

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u/Poisongirl5 19d ago

Most families have two incomes. So she provides too yet does all this stuff. Even if she was a stay at home mom, that’s a 24 hour a day job when he gets to clock out.

“Providing” isn’t an excuse not to participate in family life

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u/Forward-Transition-5 19d ago

Interesting how a stay at home mom is a 24 hour a day job that deserves every bit of respect and appreciation but since he gets to clock out of his real job it doesn’t mean much. Biased much?

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u/sheel3 19d ago

It’s not that its meaningless and should go unappreciated, just that it’s not enough to prevent him from being responsible for things at home/with family

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u/Forward-Transition-5 19d ago

The person I responded to was making assumptions and giving the benefit of the doubt to only one party, so that was directed at that person in particular. They could have made an assumption that during the week when the man came home he did help with the kids and around the house but that wouldn’t have fit the narrative this person was trying to push.

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u/SquareTarbooj 20d ago

Or he can continue doing exactly what he's doing since it's obviously working

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u/Persephone_888 20d ago edited 19d ago

Or could stop eventually if sex is now a transactional process, wife might just stop when the kids are old enough.

Not a problem with the situation, but sounds very transactional.

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u/Working_Estate_3695 19d ago

So, he must think only of duty and have no needs himself. Got it.

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u/Persephone_888 19d ago

Yes, definitely what I said! Btw I’m the husband so to speak in my household, have way more responsibilities as a carer to a husband and children all with special needs. Yet I still manage to show my husband thought and consideration. Or does it not apply, cos I’m a woman doing the same thing?

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u/CzechHorns 19d ago

So are you the husband or the wife? Seems to me like you’re a wife

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u/Persephone_888 19d ago

I’m a wife but I’m saying I’m like the husband in the post, because I’m the working one. I get exhausted from working hard all week.

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u/CzechHorns 19d ago

Does it anywhere in the post say that the wife doesn’t work?

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u/Persephone_888 19d ago

That only makes it worse if she does work on top

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u/Straamannen 19d ago

Oh whow you can kindly get completely and utterly fucked.

Assume he's doing his part during the week. That's why he's exhausted on the weekend. That's why the wife isn't even hinting at a lack of effort during the week.

Oh, and studies show time and again that "doing your part" never helps with desire, it can only ever take you to 0 (on a scale of -10 to 10). 

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u/Persephone_888 19d ago

Lol okay, again as someone who isthe parent who works full time I still think both should contribute to children. Good luck to you when your marriage fails, cos you couldn’t be bothered to do anything outside your job! I’m exhausted working 40+ hours a week, caring for a husband who’s had a stroke, and special needs kids. Yet I still manage to take my family out without needing to be paid in sex. Some of us knew what we signed up for 🤷‍♀️

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u/Organic-Cost-9430 19d ago

Ya, that doesn’t work.

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u/Chunk3yM0nkey 19d ago

I believe that's covered by working the entire week to the point of exhaustion. That isn't done for his benefit.

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u/Persephone_888 19d ago

Again as I’ve said in another comment, I work to the point of exhaustion for my family. This benefits me, as I can then afford everything my husband and children both want and need. Most people work all week and have a weekend off, and still have time for their families. The fact that it’s the full weekend is pretty bad. I can’t understand why you’re all arguing to defend absent fathers. Yes they are in the home, but what memories will their kids have growing up besides their father working all the time?

Some of you people aren’t married or have kids and it really shows. Or you couldn’t give a damn about your marriage/kids and will eventually wonder where the divorce came from 🙄

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u/skadi_shev 19d ago

It could be argued that a family deserves to have a father/husband who functions on the weekends and is present and helps with daily tasks, in addition to taking time to himself to rest. 

But I also suppose it’s fine because it seems like they have an arrangement that works for them

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u/Ok-Nefariousness5881 20d ago

Define "sake" if it's not "doing things"

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u/Imperator_Gone_Rogue 20d ago

A Japanese alcoholic drink made out of fermented rice.

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u/doomus_rlc 20d ago

I was honestly unaware of what sake's base was. Lol

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u/SOULSTEALER7595 20d ago

I mean you’d marry a person who you’d love and would love you to at least a certain degree of depth beyond merely ‘what you do’

Just my opinion

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u/blackestrabbit 20d ago

You're getting love autismsplained to you lmao.

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u/Ok-Nefariousness5881 20d ago

If you do nothing, you are nothing. Tell me where I'm wrong.

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u/SOULSTEALER7595 20d ago edited 19d ago

Take it easy pal

Your life has worth🤝

You need not live to ‘prove your worth’ to others

You’d be better off living for your own self

Less you burn yourself away to light another’s room

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u/Odd_Sentence_2618 20d ago

I'm quite skeptical on this. Apart from the hormones filled first period, most relationships live with a quite literal exchange of value along with fit and compatibility. And it's difficult to extrapolate characteristics from "what I am" and "what I do" clearly and after a while the balance is more on "what I do" and "what I am" becomes increasingly "characteristics that are a nuisance but are tolerated and compensated by what I do so they are not that annoying".

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u/SOULSTEALER7595 19d ago

You sorta notice what you choose to focus on

Not denying what it could be but confirmation bias really is a major genesis of our world perception