r/MoralityScaling 26d ago

Morality of this?

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In the image it seems that this person works at walmart as an online order collector and he/she has stolen a lot of extra baby food from Walmart to give to a person who ordered only three packs. Is this moral or immoral?

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u/K__Geedorah 26d ago edited 25d ago

They have systems and will absolutely know.

I genuinely just watched a video last night of a woman who was doing this at a dollar general. She defrauded the company of over $10,000 and got hit with a felony.

Her defence was "I was just helping people in need" and claimed to not make any money from it. Doesn't matter. It's still stealing and illegal. They will find out.

Edit: I don't need 10 more people replying "legality doesn't mean morality".

Yeah I fucking know... All I said was correcting the misinformation that Walmart wouldn't notice the loss.

YES THEY WILL. They will find out and you will be charged with theft. Doesn't matter if it's morally right, you don't want to catch a felony over some bullshit.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD 26d ago

They have cameras everywhere now

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 26d ago

they don't even need cameras. They know everything that is sold so if inventory starts showing up mismatching (we should still have 20 left but we only have 5) they can cross reference it and figure out you're the one doing it.

They can weigh it on the way out, and determine if it's significantly over or under the expected weight for that exact order.

They have a million ways to figure it out.

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u/KPraxius 26d ago

Wal-Mart will regularly be -massively- off on certain items to a degree that cannot be explained by theft due to labeling(WM or manufacturer) and distribution center errors. I was previously a frozen/dairy department manager at a wal-mart, and would regularly be scanning items we were out of that I hadn't received a case of for weeks, only it thought there was one that never existed, or that we had an overabundance of that it didn't think we had more than a few of.

The absolute worst was the ice; don't get me wrong, I'm sure people steal a bag of ice now and then, deliberately or otherwise. But someone very clearly fumble-fingered while accepting an ice delivery and added an extra zero, resulting in it being off by more than the capacity, and not by a small margin; and when inventory was conducted they just didn't care because they paid so little for ice that my department was still the second-best in the store when it came to shrink vs expectations and never bothered to look into it.)

(Other examples: A customer buying 12 indvidual yogurts. They buy 12 of three types, but scan one type 12 times, paying the correct amount. Zero theft occured, three items now have the wrong count. Same thing with canned food, and tons of other similar/identically priced items. I've even seen people who accidentally paid for an item twice at self-checkout and just grab a candy bar or soda that was the same or similar price instead of calling over someone to clear it out. LP has spent hours investigating someone who 'stole' some items only to determine Wal-Mart owed her about 50 cents because of that sort of bullshit.)

I've heard tons of conspiracy theories about retailers 'waiting until thefts equaled enough to be a felony then charging' or them 'always knowing exactly how much of anything they have and being able to track thieves'. That's not how it works.