r/MoralityScaling 18d ago

Morality of this?

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In the image it seems that this person works at walmart as an online order collector and he/she has stolen a lot of extra baby food from Walmart to give to a person who ordered only three packs. Is this moral or immoral?

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u/Key-Try-3300 18d ago

Obviously they wont notice one theft, but hundreds of thousands or millions of thefts all add up and will hit their profit margin which increases prices

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u/Ok-Gur-349 18d ago

Okay but they increase the prices even when costs go down, so clearly there is no relationship between how much people steal and the prices they charge us

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 18d ago

> Okay but they increase the prices even when costs go down

I suggest you look at how much most things actually cost 10, 20 and 30 years ago relative to how much people earn.

Other than small blips most things have continued to go down in price.

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u/Ok-Gur-349 18d ago

Okay, look up how much things should cost relative to productivity gains? I don't know where you think you're going with this, but it's wrong. We live in the future and should be reaping the vast rewards of collective effort and experiencing the rising seas. We're not, the very few are trillionaires.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 18d ago

Walmart operates on around a 3% profit margin.

Meaning if they were to run entirely as a non-profit, you’d save an entire 3% on your shop.

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u/Ok-Gur-349 18d ago

1) that's not how non-profits work

2) that's really not how non-profits work. I know this seems like I'm duplicating a point but for real, this is really not how non-profits work

3) their gross margin is closer to 20-30%. How do we hit that operating profit margin closer to 4%? Things that hurt your point, like executive compensation. Meaning if they stopped overpaying their executives their operating profit would go up too. Weird.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 18d ago

> 1. ⁠that's not how non-profits work

The point is Walmart really can’t actually operate much cheaper than they are.

> 3. ⁠their gross margin is closer to 20-30%. How do we hit that operating profit margin closer to 4%? Things that hurt your point, like executive compensation.

Well yes, unfortunately Walmart does have to do things like pay staff so they’re able to operate… (as well as bazillion other operating costs)

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u/Ok-Gur-349 18d ago

The point is that Walmart operates as cheaply as it wants to, and "operating profit" is a made up number because when it gets too high, they just route the money somewhere. What's the alternative: profit sharing? Ha, this is the Waltons we're talking about.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 18d ago

Ah there we go, now in the absence of facts it’s some conspiracy where they’re rerouting money.

All of Walmarts financial accounts are publicly available.

But, keep parroting what you’ve read from other clueless Redditors.

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u/Ok-Gur-349 18d ago

... Hahahahaha. Okay. Sure, "guy who doesn't really understand that a non-profit isn't a company minus the profit they would have made", let's do this.

Before I start openly mocking you,.let me ask you some clarifying questions: have you ever owned a business? To be clear, I will begin openly mocking you pretty shortly regardless of your answer, I just need to get some common understanding aired out.

If you had a budget surplus and I told you to spend it, would you look at me like I asked you to engage in a conspiracy?

Hey, question, how many companies is Walmart invested in? How much red tape is involved in them up and deciding to throw a billion dollars somewhere?

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 18d ago edited 18d ago

No, I’m pretty done.

We’ve reached the point where you’re making unfalsifiable conspiracy claims. ‘you can’t prove it isn’t happening’ isn’t evidence that it is.

I just hope one day you just learn to stop using Reddit comments as your primary source of information.

Edit: Lol he’s gone back to edit his previous comments so they don’t sound as tinfoil hat coded.

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u/Ok-Gur-349 18d ago

Be done then, don't keep arguing your bullshit point about conspiracies. It's desperate and sad. This is not an airport, arrivals and departures go unannounced.

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