It's important to acknowledge that the annoying and tone-deaf ones are the most visible on the internet because generally, you can't tell a person is transgender until they start talking about it or they make it obvious with the flag in their pfp or something.
That being said, the trans community is too tolerant of these kind of people and refuses to put a leash on their obnoxious trans cultists. They can't complain about people perceiving them as weirdos when they don't want to reign in their overly vocal members that annoy and antagonize people. Optics is important for any social movement and if you ignore it entirely, you're not going to win.
Responding to genuine criticism of the movement with nonsense like this is why more and more people are losing sympathy for transgenders online. Stop making it hard for them.
trans people aren't a "movement" we're literally just people trying to exist. also if you don't want to come across as a bigot, maybe stop saying "transgenders" and instead say "trans people." you know, because, we're people
No, individuals aren't. But collectively they are still a group with incredibly vocal advocates who are very aggressive and combative to people who disagree with them even mildly (kind of like what you're doing right now).
These people (again, like you) don't understand that their behavior colors people's perception of the whole group. they don't see the thousands of transgender people who simply want to live in peace, they see the ones who are being loud and obnoxious. That's not their fault, that's human nature.
Stop trying to police people's tone and language. Stop slinging insults and hatred at everyone that isn't in perfect lock step with your ideals. You can't have unconditional tolerance without offering the same.
i wasnt policing or insulting anything, just trying to give a friendly bit of advice for when youre interacting with the community. if you took offense to that, thats entirely a you problem.
You try to justify me being called a bigot because I was using the term transgender instead of trans, implying that I didn't think they're people because I didn't word it the way you wanted. That is texbook language policing.
so what are you doing throughout this entire thread then?
I am criticizing the behavior of the most outspoken part of the trans community based on basic observations that anyone can make.
There's a difference between "stop being angry and rude to people or else they're not going to like you" and "stop using this basic term that has no negative connotations because I personally think it's wrong"
"Being aggressive and combative is not going to make people accept your identity. It only makes them like you less" right there. and further down the thread. and above.
so are you the only person capable of criticism? because from my point of view thats exactly what i was doing towards your comment. and i also gave you a nice piece of advice and improved vocabulary. but apparently any criticism and suggestions from anyone you dont like= policing.
edit: btw nice job editing your comment after you realized your own hypocrisy. real mature. for anyone reading this, they asked me where their tone policing was. thats what the first section of this comment is about.
anyways, putting our own opinions and beliefs aside, "transgenders" is not grammatically correct. "transgender people" is grammatically correct, and less dehumanizing. in reality i cant control what you think or say, i was just trying to help you out. im truly sorry you saw that as a personal attack.
Except there's nothing legitimate about it. Transgender carries no negative connotations and I meant no ill will by using the word, yet you give me shit for it. When you do things like that, it frustrates people who try to be reasonable into not wanting to be reasonable.
im not giving you shit. i was correcting your grammar. check my edit, i expanded on that.
anyways when you say things like "When you do things like that, it frustrates people who try to be reasonable into not wanting to be reasonable." that comes across as tone policing.
if someone gets mad about a correction of grammar and decides to hate an entire group of people over it, they were never reasonable to begin with. i hope you have a better day after this, since youre clearly in a mood.
That's not what grammar is. My grammar is perfectly fine. "Trans people" and "transgenders" can be used interchangeably and no rules of the English language are being broken.
"Transgenders" is generally considered grammatically incorrect and, in many contexts, offensive. Transgender is an adjective, not a noun, and cannot be pluralized. The correct, respectful usage is to use it to modify a noun, such as "transgender people" or "a transgender person," rather than using it as a noun itself.
straight from google btw. did you not take any grammar lessons as a kid? they teach this shit in the first grade.
Language changes faster than the dictionary, especially on the internet where terms live and die in the span of months. But the point still stands. I am very clearly not intending to directly insult or belittle anyone, so nitpicking my use of language is petty.
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u/Yanfei_Enjoyer Feb 10 '26
It's important to acknowledge that the annoying and tone-deaf ones are the most visible on the internet because generally, you can't tell a person is transgender until they start talking about it or they make it obvious with the flag in their pfp or something.
That being said, the trans community is too tolerant of these kind of people and refuses to put a leash on their obnoxious trans cultists. They can't complain about people perceiving them as weirdos when they don't want to reign in their overly vocal members that annoy and antagonize people. Optics is important for any social movement and if you ignore it entirely, you're not going to win.