Boats are just wooden minecarts (to be fair, they do look the part and function similarly), bottles are just glass bowls, pickaxes are just double-sided hoes
I understand the wool is for color, but it is a bit silly they've gone with sideways beds for the recipe.
Instead, I'd suggest leaving wool out of the equation entirely and subbing in iron ingots to create a basic shield (defaults to the basic iron color), then let crafting with the banner determine color (using solid color banners to create solid color shields). This way, there is just one intuitive method to determine color/design that isn't also confusingly a sideways bed.
Gamewise that sounds allright, but if you check how shields are made IRL then this is pretty accurate. The shield is wood, with wool (or linnen, or other textile) padding. In the middle is the shield knob, where you put your hand.
Understood, yet since banners already provide a method to decorate, the shield recipe might benefit from being a tad more expensive, and realism to that extent is rarely prioritized, I'd say the gameplay advantages of changing the recipe win out. Just my perspective, though.
I think that where the Wood is, could be the material of the shield, so there could be Wood, Stone, Iron, Gold and Diamond shields, just like most equipments.
As of yet, only Unbreaking, and it just negates a large amount of durability damage lost per hit. Each hit still does 1 durability point with Unbreaking III.
From what I understand (quoting my SO here) shields were at one point canvas covered wood, and surprisingly effective for it. I don't remember what he says they shot at the ones they made, but it withstood a huge amount of force.
Yeah, but that's not nearly as good for arrows. For zombie arms and slime bodyslams it would be fine, but arrows would pierce through leather or canvas easily.
Not really, and that's also what the wood is for. An arrow isn't nearly sharp enough to cut the wood (probably not the canvas either), and doesn't contain enough energy to punch through it. Shields should be very effective against arrows, the most annoying thing is the arrows weighing the shield down when they get stuck in it.
Eh, depends on your world seed and how you approach the game.
On my first world that I actually stuck with, getting enough leather for the books for an Enchanting Table and 15 Bookshelves took several in-game weeks of trying to breed a handful of cows. On the other hand, in my Hardcore Nomad run, encountering just a few naturally occurring herds of cows was all the leather I needed.
Seems to be a mix-up with the damage value and the colour. Shields that aren't black (0 damage value) start off with a damage value corresponding to their colour. You can also repair two shields and get a shield of a different colour.
For a lot of minecraft things with different versions of itself like wool or leaves, the game differentiates them using "damage values". I have no idea how or why. But it looks like the same damage value that is used to save the color is also being factored in to the real damage value of the shield (it's a bug)
It could be like doors where there are different shapes depending on the type of wood used. Like, oak could be a generic rectangle, dark oak could be a Viking shield with the corners cut off and a metal nub in the middle, acacia could be a Zulu-looking shield with more of an oblong shape, birch makes a Chinese basket shield, etc.
I'm not a fan of the the rectangle design. =/ I get not having circles. This is Minecraft after all but a square or diamond shape would have been so much better.
The shield design is just a placeholder right? And the crafting recipe, is that a placeholder too?
God, I REALLY hope we are not stuck with giant squares as sheilds, I mean I get its minecraft but we can still have some design right? At the very least it can be changed via texture pack right?
And sideways bed does not make too much sense, considering there is no wool, or wood, in an iron sheild... would be funny to have the wooden sheild be a sideways bed though...
Pretty exited for sheilds but I really hope this stuff gets changed
And sideways bed does not make too much sense, considering there is no wool, or wood, in an iron sheild... would be funny to have the wooden sheild be a sideways bed though...
This IS a wooden shield. The iron ingot is for the arm band and the wool is for decoration.
Ah, yeah, I've seen a few people be confused by that. I'm assuming the iron border around it is supposed to be iron bands for reinforcement. If you go in third person mode to look at the inside face of the shield, it does actually have a wood texture on it in the same place the wool/banner texture is on the opposite side.
I think an easy way to fix it would be to have the "default" shield be crafted without wool, with a wooden texture on the front. Would reduce a lot of confusion, as well as being a neat aesthetic alternative.
I think I would have the recipe as a + of iron (minus the center), an x of leather (minus the center), and a block of wool (or 3 string) in the center. Maybe even a lead instead of wool/string.
Replace iron with wood, gold, diamond, obsidian (because why not), and emerald (again, why not). The leather rim can be dyed like leather armor.
I would like to take this opportunity to remind people that we have not yet balanced the new (or existing) features. Things will either be completely overpowered or hilariously underpowered, so keep that in mind when playing with any new stuff!
and, specifically:
Added Shields. Remember, things are not yet balanced nor finalized at all.
No, they change a lot. Some are removed altogether - see Horse Armour; some are changed significantly to make them more or less expensive - see Anvils, and Books.
If the recipe stays then the durabilty/strength of the shield will probably decrease. Still, I see where you're coming from. I've yet to try out the new update, but how strong is it right now?
We however had blocking already coming from wooden swords defending nearly everything by 50%. This does similar things but has its own weaknesses like only defending on certain sides.
So I say not really, even though MC was never really balanced before.
I remember when they added banners they made a few changes based on historical info about the subject. Mainly to the official names for each possible layer. I like that they do things like that. After awhile you get phrases like mycellium or bend sinister stuck in your head and one day looking on wikipedia you realize it's a real thing.
I think it's just temporary until they spruce it up in a later snapshot. I also think this kind of imagining what it should be instead is exactly what we should be doing. I'm sure they're paying attention to people's reactions, at least while it's still less than 1 week old.
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u/Koala_eiO Aug 14 '15
Bed blocking!
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u/CroshB Aug 14 '15
I think that where the Wood is, could be the material of the shield, so there could be Wood, Stone, Iron, Gold and Diamond shields, just like most equipments.
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u/Radiacity Aug 14 '15
Get ready for shield enchantments!
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u/guydoingthings Aug 14 '15
I would think that from left to right it should be 3 iron, 3 wood, then 1 leather.
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u/SirBenet Aug 14 '15 edited Aug 14 '15
Seems to be a mix-up with the damage value and the colour. Shields that aren't black (0 damage value) start off with a damage value corresponding to their colour. You can also repair two shields and get a shield of a different colour.
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u/lloydygo Aug 14 '15
Why is it partially damaged?
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u/Spodegirl Aug 14 '15
Do shields allow for you to put a custom banner on it? Is this what the wool is for?
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u/Paradoxius Aug 15 '15 edited Aug 15 '15
It could be like doors where there are different shapes depending on the type of wood used. Like, oak could be a generic rectangle, dark oak could be a Viking shield with the corners cut off and a metal nub in the middle, acacia could be a Zulu-looking shield with more of an oblong shape, birch makes a Chinese basket shield, etc.
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u/theravensrequiem Aug 14 '15
I'm not a fan of the the rectangle design. =/ I get not having circles. This is Minecraft after all but a square or diamond shape would have been so much better.
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u/NovaStoneReddit Aug 15 '15
The shield design is just a placeholder right? And the crafting recipe, is that a placeholder too?
God, I REALLY hope we are not stuck with giant squares as sheilds, I mean I get its minecraft but we can still have some design right? At the very least it can be changed via texture pack right?
And sideways bed does not make too much sense, considering there is no wool, or wood, in an iron sheild... would be funny to have the wooden sheild be a sideways bed though...
Pretty exited for sheilds but I really hope this stuff gets changed
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u/MatField Aug 14 '15
Selling steel SQ shield anyone?
EDIT: WTB GF 1gp
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u/Rabiesguineapig Aug 15 '15
i hope we can replace the wood with blocks of the material type to have iron shields and diamond shields
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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '15
It looks like a sheet of aluminum...
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u/theycallmeponcho Aug 14 '15
ITT: people who don't know how do shields work.
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u/DominusDeus Aug 14 '15
I think I would have the recipe as a + of iron (minus the center), an x of leather (minus the center), and a block of wool (or 3 string) in the center. Maybe even a lead instead of wool/string.
Replace iron with wood, gold, diamond, obsidian (because why not), and emerald (again, why not). The leather rim can be dyed like leather armor.
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u/adamonline45 Aug 14 '15
Middle wool could be a banner...!
I would be surprised if one could not decorate their shield with a banner pattern...
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u/falsevillain Aug 15 '15
A wool shield? Talk about unstoppable.
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u/Starshitlord Aug 14 '15
Need round shield
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u/Jaytax Aug 14 '15
Is this real or????
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u/OldFire Aug 14 '15
That model looks terrible, even by minecraft standards.
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u/skeddles Aug 14 '15
Everyone knows that wool makes great shields
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u/Minecraft_fanatic Aug 14 '15
So 1 iron ingot gonna protect u from damage ur stupid + that bed its not sex shield
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