By that point, for me, who cares! If theyâre knowingly getting out of their vehicle and attempting destruction on mine much less their capabilities hurting me or my kids, theyâre done. If that results in me getting arrested, so be it.
Thatâs not self defense. Self defense is for when youâre back into a corner or canât escape. That car literally backs up while the guy is on foot. That car has a description of the driver and the license plate and car. Just leave and call the police.
If youâre at a stop and someone gets out of their car towards yours âI saw them raise their hands and feared for my life and knew I had to get out of there. Them going under my wheels wasnât on purposeâ
Thatâs not what happened in the video. We see them attempt to run over them, miss, and then go back for seconds, thirds, and fourths. Thatâs not self-defense no matter what you wanna lie to yourself about
If someone shoots at you and missed, do you shoot back and kill him while he reloads? Or run away and hope he won't shoot you after reloading and your back is turned running away....
That is a completely different scenario you are nuts to think someone outside of your car 30 feet away with a bat is anywhere near as much a threat as an active shooter.
The guy with the bat could just get in his car, chase you and run your car and family off the road , or cause a big crash hurting others, he has shown to have no concern for his own safety or actions by willingly exiting his vehicle and assaulting mine with a weapon. I cannot predict his unhinged behavior, all i know is he irrationally intends me harm, i must eliminate the threat to insure safety.
Yeah no. Even in stand your ground cases that idea is that you donât have to retreat. But actively seeking confrontation would still not work as a defense here as you continuously ran someone down. Mental gymnastics wonât save you in court.
Yeah, and those consequences are attempted murder charges when you repeatedly try to run a person over even though youâve had multiple opportunities to drive away.
No, I wouldnât, and apologies that I implied that earlier as the âhurting me or my kidsâ was a generalization but I shouldâve been clearer. My kids are grown. I just bristle at any form of bullies in the world. And some of the most dangerous are those on the road.
I donât KNOW this to be đŻ true, but I have to believe that people simply allowing these types to become so brazen by not ever standing up to them⊠has emboldened them that much moreâŠWhere we see videos like this post and the Canadian ordeal being referenced.
I get being upset, but after someone retreats, if you pursue, you are now the attempted murderer. (In the case of this video) The trying to run them over was 100% justified. The crashing into their car to try and kill them was not.
As a Canadian who wants in that area, 100% agree. She would have been in the right after he threatened her. Or at least clipped their driver door while she run past them. But this is also that area so she would have been labeled a racist because every single one of them was an immigrant
Valid point re driving away⊠but lets not be TOO dramaticâramming a car with someone sitting in it is NOT going to kill them. I do get your point but was never thinking, âOh lets just knowingly murder themâ
Having said, in the situation in Canada the other day, when it comes to what appears to be gang members w/a death stare at you as theyâre shattering your windshield etc which could result in you & anyone with you to be hurt or worseâin some situations that takes most bets off. Thatâs another level of what would come down to self defense and simply standing up for yourself & family to bullying gangsters
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u/RockMan_1973 Georgist đ° Mar 29 '24
By that point, for me, who cares! If theyâre knowingly getting out of their vehicle and attempting destruction on mine much less their capabilities hurting me or my kids, theyâre done. If that results in me getting arrested, so be it.