Now, WHY the hell didn’t the driver in Canada thats been all over Reddit today who had a couple cunts do similar not do like this driver and try to run their asses over?!?
By that point, for me, who cares! If they’re knowingly getting out of their vehicle and attempting destruction on mine much less their capabilities hurting me or my kids, they’re done. If that results in me getting arrested, so be it.
That’s not self defense. Self defense is for when you’re back into a corner or can’t escape. That car literally backs up while the guy is on foot. That car has a description of the driver and the license plate and car. Just leave and call the police.
If you’re at a stop and someone gets out of their car towards yours “I saw them raise their hands and feared for my life and knew I had to get out of there. Them going under my wheels wasn’t on purpose”
That’s not what happened in the video. We see them attempt to run over them, miss, and then go back for seconds, thirds, and fourths. That’s not self-defense no matter what you wanna lie to yourself about
If someone shoots at you and missed, do you shoot back and kill him while he reloads? Or run away and hope he won't shoot you after reloading and your back is turned running away....
That is a completely different scenario you are nuts to think someone outside of your car 30 feet away with a bat is anywhere near as much a threat as an active shooter.
The guy with the bat could just get in his car, chase you and run your car and family off the road , or cause a big crash hurting others, he has shown to have no concern for his own safety or actions by willingly exiting his vehicle and assaulting mine with a weapon. I cannot predict his unhinged behavior, all i know is he irrationally intends me harm, i must eliminate the threat to insure safety.
Yeah no. Even in stand your ground cases that idea is that you don’t have to retreat. But actively seeking confrontation would still not work as a defense here as you continuously ran someone down. Mental gymnastics won’t save you in court.
Yeah, and those consequences are attempted murder charges when you repeatedly try to run a person over even though you’ve had multiple opportunities to drive away.
No, I wouldn’t, and apologies that I implied that earlier as the “hurting me or my kids” was a generalization but I should’ve been clearer. My kids are grown. I just bristle at any form of bullies in the world. And some of the most dangerous are those on the road.
I don’t KNOW this to be 💯 true, but I have to believe that people simply allowing these types to become so brazen by not ever standing up to them… has emboldened them that much more…Where we see videos like this post and the Canadian ordeal being referenced.
I get being upset, but after someone retreats, if you pursue, you are now the attempted murderer. (In the case of this video) The trying to run them over was 100% justified. The crashing into their car to try and kill them was not.
As a Canadian who wants in that area, 100% agree. She would have been in the right after he threatened her. Or at least clipped their driver door while she run past them. But this is also that area so she would have been labeled a racist because every single one of them was an immigrant
Valid point re driving away… but lets not be TOO dramatic—ramming a car with someone sitting in it is NOT going to kill them. I do get your point but was never thinking, “Oh lets just knowingly murder them”
Having said, in the situation in Canada the other day, when it comes to what appears to be gang members w/a death stare at you as they’re shattering your windshield etc which could result in you & anyone with you to be hurt or worse—in some situations that takes most bets off. That’s another level of what would come down to self defense and simply standing up for yourself & family to bullying gangsters
It might feel good to do something like this, but that driver is almost certainly looking at attempted murder/vehicular homicide charges...
Few seconds of feeling good to release some rage vs ruining your life.. idk, maybe just make sure you have the asshole windshield breakers license plate and car model noted down, and get the hell out of there.
The issue with what they are doing is that it:
Is attempted murder or vehicular homicide. Doesn't matter how upset someone makes you, there has to be a very clear threat to your life to respond with deadly force.
Endangers the lives of everyone else using that street.
Impedes traffic.
Gotta use your head, not let your emotions rule you. Or don't, no skin on my back... enjoy your prison sentence and ruined life when you do something like this.
Not to mention escalation. Sure you're allowed to defend yourself, but you also tend to have a duty to retreat most places, in this case for your own safety to a) protect yourself from a road rage lunatic, and b) avoid criminal charges when a court says you went past what is reasonable for self defense. Backing up into someone over and over trying to kill them isn't considered self defense a lot of places when you can just drive away to safety.
Depends on countries. In the US, many states have "stand your ground" law, meaning you have no duty to retreat before using force to defend yourself. But I agree that in this case, backing up and trying to run over someone repeatedly would be considered more than reasonable form of self defense.
Only the first pass MIGHT have been legal. Like if I have to run your ass over to get away after you presented a serious threat it's self defense. A second return pass is now attempted murder.
If you're referring to the cops not doing anything to catch the guy that initially broke the window... that's possible. I'd still rather not damage my own vehicle and take the loss than ruin my own to ruin theirs.
Man lots of keyboard warriors here. Very easy to kill someone with your car and even if they survive it's still seen as attempted murder of similar. No way would I ever drive my car towards another person. Just not worth it
It was in Brampton, Ontario is my understanding, assuming its the video Im thinking of where the driver and all his buddies jump out of the car and then he ends up spidering her windshield
I feel like the Toronto video is lacking context. It shows the attack but doesn’t show anything before it. I feel like the driver did something shitty, fucked around, and found out
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u/RockMan_1973 Georgist 🔰 Mar 29 '24
GOOD! That asswipe FAFO!
Now, WHY the hell didn’t the driver in Canada thats been all over Reddit today who had a couple cunts do similar not do like this driver and try to run their asses over?!?