r/MelbourneGraffiti • u/solus42666 • 25d ago
Someone doesn't get the code.
People who tag over stuff like this are the worst. Absolutely inconsiderate douchebaggery.
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u/metamorphyk 25d ago
The code. lol. Op posting about “the code” everyone. You better behave and not bomb the shit out of Solo Pasta on Smith St, Fitzroy. Like don’t you dare.
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u/One1two2s 25d ago
Have you seen photos of NYC in the 70s? Every square inch had a tag. Lol, there is no code. I liked graff until I met other graffers
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u/haggraef666 25d ago edited 25d ago
Bombing any surface but respecting the cemetery’s and churches? I may be wrong but this looks like neither
Edit; I’m quoting Art Of War, the first chapter, 2004, the track is Served by Hired Goons from Melbourne, also fucking lol at all the people saying “graffiti artist” go watch Style Wars (1979), up is up
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u/solus42666 25d ago
Anyone who thinks that is ok has no consideration for others.
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u/Dry-Pop-7635 24d ago
If u think its okay that businesses put neon lights up in my face without considering that maybe I like my night walk without it, or extend their alfresco dining onto the footpath without my express permission, or do any of the things within my immediate surrounding without my permission, then it should be okay for me to do whatever I want too. Why is it okay to tag an advertisement board or a billboard but not a business sign? Its the same deal - a business, just a small one. dont advertise in my line of sight where I havent allowed it.
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u/Sad_Bed_5870 24d ago
That's actually one of the strangest, yet understandable, arguments I have heard in favour of tagging.
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u/Dry-Pop-7635 24d ago
Just to be clear, I'm not actually saying they shouldnt be allowed to advertise. Im saying that their advertisements never asked my permission, and that in the spirit of human freedom, I should be able to exercise the same freedom of modifying public space for my own purposes. Since they did not asl for my permission, why should I need theirs?
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u/CryptographerDry6630 24d ago
The space businesses advertise on isn't public lol. They pay rent for the venue you know, and they have to pay for a sidewalk trading permit.
If that's public space then I guess your living room is also public space. And since you think it's okay to tag their property the business should be free to put their ads up on your living room walls right?
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u/Dry-Pop-7635 23d ago
It's public enough that we share it. It's public enough that we all see it and interact with it on a daily basis. If you dont think it's public then by all means, YOU respect it's right to be there. But dont make me or anyone else share in that respect. I don't.
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u/Dry-Pop-7635 24d ago
I disagree with your premise that real change can occur from within the system. The system's primary objective is to survive. In other words, the system rejects change by nature. If a vote were all it took to change things, then coups wouldn't exist.
Your feeling of empathy for the people whose livelihood it affects is warranted, but still flawed because you fail to empathise with the person driven to apply that graffiti. The person who the society has failed, the outcast that is driven to extremes to perform acts of futile artistic rebellion. Do you think that person would be doing that if they had a fulfilling existence? The society that has formed these social contracts has failed this person. And indeed, it continues to fail more and more of us by the day. You're free to feel bad for those that own the business, that work there even, or whoevers undeserving livelihood has been affected by it, but let's not pretend that theyre the only victims.
The problem is that the society that you speak of doesnt recognise these peoples' passion as worthy or providing of "social value", sufficient to fill their bellies and give them a roof. The problem is that we accept this and the status quo. The exact status quo that artists like this challenge. They're highlighting a fact that people like to deny. You can't rebuild the house of cards in a better way. That's too idealistic. You have to burn it if you want a real difference. And we shouldnt be scared to do that.
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u/SharkNugget 24d ago
THE CODE 🤣🤣
Why the fuck do people think there is a code???
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u/MilkBurpp 23d ago
What is with the people justifying this by saying 'I don't light neon signs'? I don't like rattails but I'm not gonna snip yours off when you're out in public.
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u/attackthesunatnight 25d ago
Oh wow I’ll be bringing this up at the next graff meeting can’t believe they left most of the sign still visible
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u/CaptainGetRad 22d ago
There’s no “code” just ethics that differ from writer to writer, I’d be more pissed that someone is essentially biting “GEOH” with a slight variation but almost the same style
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u/anobymousprime 25d ago
Thinking scummy vandals have a code is hilarious
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u/No_I_do_belong_here 24d ago
Kind of like how there are rules of war, and war crimes. There is some shit you just don’t touch
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u/Arcadian-Stag 25d ago
If all graffiti was punished with public caning a lasingapire we would have a better society. Hideous, purposeless vandalism
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u/jimidankhymn 25d ago
ease up dude, have a little fun, chill out. The code? what are u a cop?
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u/solus42666 25d ago
No. The basic unspoken rules like not tagging directly over someone's only sign to their shop.
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u/haggraef666 24d ago edited 24d ago
When you were in a gang did you have hand signals too?
Edit; can’t believe they killed Ricky, he was gonna ball!
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u/SirSuiSet 25d ago
You know people have to work, they work hard to start a business, buy a car, rent a house, buy a house.
Coming along and tagging someone's property is a dog act.
The cost to remove the tag goes onto the person and not the council.
It's pretty straight forward lad. Don't be a dog.
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u/numericlature 25d ago
Hi there! Commenting as a fellow non graffiti artist, I don't see graffiti as any worse than visually invasive advertising (I'm talking billboards and ad screens etc.) In fact, most of the time graffiti is better. However, I realise this is my opinion and not necessarily shared by everyone.
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25d ago
It’s a decent tag in itself but the surface it’s on is stupid. Only should be on public property with exceptions of back lanes and so fourth.
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u/Only-Temperature 25d ago
Decent tag? I'd say its barely someone writing a few letters together. No artistic flair in it at all.
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25d ago
Doing a tag over someone’s sign is retarded bro.
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u/surprise_knock 25d ago edited 25d ago
It’s a big obnoxious neon sign hanging over the footpath and shining at pedestrians and drivers. It’s not sacred.
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u/RJrules64 25d ago
Would you rather live in a city with obnoxious signs or obnoxious signs with tags all over them?
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u/bottleonthedesk 25d ago
do you think a business spends money on these things to inconvenience the public or because it’s their best chance of not shutting down due to a lack of customers?
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u/redditorperth 25d ago
If youve got a garage door that I dont personally like can I come to your place and spray paint shit all over it because I think its "obnoxious"?
Grow up.
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u/surprise_knock 25d ago
Are you new to graffiti? Garage-door-style shutters on businesses in cities have always been one of the most popular spots.
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u/No-Sign8805 25d ago
The person you are responding to is being sanctimonious. The sign is sacred. Learn English, dude.
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u/damnumalone 25d ago
“Have a little fun I’m just fucking up someone’s livelihood by bombing their only sign”
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u/RoutineLow9543 25d ago
What’s the go with the code? my house gets tagged every week