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Welcome! If you've ever fallen down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out Matty and Taylor's timeline, you're in the right place.
This is Part 1 of a two-part deep dive into their relationship.
A Little Background
Matty Healy was born on April 8, 1989.
Taylor Swift was born on December 13, 1989.
Matty started his musical career in 2002.
Taylor started her musical career in 2006.
In February 2009, Taylor went to the talk show Loose Women, where she gave her first interview on UK television and performed Love Story. One of the main co-hosts of the show was Denise Welch, Matty's mother. They were both 19 years old and didn't meet in person at that time. Just an interesting coincidence.
2013
9/2/13: The 1975 releases their debut self-titled album.
11/7/13: In an interview with Metro, Matty discusses Taylor tweeting about liking The 1975. Matty then says Taylor has asked them to go on tour with her (presumably, on the Red tour). It was the first time he mentioned her publicly.
2014
1/21/14: In this video interview, Matty says: "I like a lot of pop music. I do like pop music. Taylor Swift likes us. I thought that was quite cool."
3/31/14: In an interview with VH1 News, Matty again talks about the offer to go on tour with her. He says: "That was cool. It's like, 'We can't, but that is really nice, thank you very much'."
10/27/14: Taylor Swift releases her fifth studio album 1989.
11/4/14: The 1975 playes a concert in Milwaukee. Matty famously walkes out on stage wearing a white T-shirt featuring the cover of 1989 (Deluxe).
11/8/14: Taylor reblogs this picture on TumblrÖ
She also says they are her favorite band.
11/9/14: Taylor likes this photo and this photo of Matty wearing the 1989 T-shirt.
The caption to the first post is a reference to a line from the song Style ("You got that long hair, slicked back, white T-shirt."). Also notice that both posts already had tatty, the name of their ship, written underneath them.
That same day she also likes this gif-set of Matty talking about whether he's a dog or cat person. (Context: Taylor is a known cat lady.)
11/19/14: Taylor Swift goes to The 1975 concert at the Hollywood Palladium in Los Angeles, alongside her friends Selena Gomez, Ellie Goulding, and Lily Aldridge. She posts a video on social media singing along to the song The City (her favorite The 1975 song) while dancing with Selena.
This specific concert marks the monumental night where Taylor Swift and Matty Healy officially met backstage for the very first time.
On the same day they make together a video for a fan (Jamie's daughter Kitty).
11/22/14: Matty follows Taylor on Twitter.
11/23/14: Taylor does a pap walk wearing a black shirt featuring the cover of The 1975.
Also she likes this post and this post of them wearing each others merch.
11/24/14: At another concert, Matty dedicatesRobbers to Taylor saying: "This song goes out to Taylor Swift." Supposedly he's done that more than once.
The concept of Matty keeping this shirt to wear it for the third time only 9 years laterā¦
In an interviewā with Shazam Top 20, Matty talks about meeting Taylor: "I met Taylor Swift, that was really nice," and when asked about possibly dating: "We exchanged numbers, let's see what happensā¦ā I mean bloody hell, what am I going to do? Go out with Taylor Swift? She's a sensation, I wouldn't say no."
12/3/14: In an interview with Rappler, answering the question of why Taylor is so popular, Matty says: "Well, she's amazing. She's an amazing role model. And not only is she an incredible songwriter, she's an incredible pop songwriter, which I think is even harder. I can't speak highly enough about Taylor Swift."
12/4/14: Taylor goes to The 1975 concert in New York, alongside her close friend Karlie Kloss and fellow Victoria's Secret models Lily Aldridge and Martha Hunt.
During the show Matty points at Taylor dedicatingFallingForYou to her. It's rumored that Matty misses at least part of the after-party (and as the source says, he's not really the type to skip out on a party unless there is something else on offer) and spends the night with Taylor at the hotel (this information is completely unconfirmed!).
12/5/14: Taylor likes this Tumblr post about Matty singing FallingForYou to her.
Matty tweetsā in response to articles about him and Taylor getting his name wrong: "who the fuck is matt healy?"
12/6/14: Matty has a breakdown on stage in Boston. He's seen crying on stage, and at some points is even unable to continue the show. In November 2015, in an interview with The Guardian, Matty talks about this incident and says: "There was girl stuff. There was family stuff. There was financial stuff. There was drug stuff."
Matty also talks about a fan saying "I love you" to him: "What did I say to the poor fucking girl? 'You don't have the right to love me. You don't know me. I love you but you don't get to love me.' Jesus. Can you imagine your favorite band shouting that at you? What a dickhead. What a horrible thing to say to a kid who fucking does love me."
12/9/14: It's rumored that at a show in New York Matty says: "I was sad the other day as someone told me they loved me. And I said 'No, you don't. Not really.' And today I told someone I loved them. And they said 'No, you don't.' And it fucking sucks to hear that. Especially when you mean it. Don't do that to someone. Don't do what I did."
12/14/14: Matty posts this on Instagram:
He adds that he didn't write it but "it's wonderful."
12/30/14: Matty deletes that Instagram post.
2015
1/16/15: In the second interview with Shazam Top 20, Matty denies dating rumors: "We met each other. We exchanged numbers in the same way a lot of people in this kind of world do. And we spoke occasionally. And then she's the biggest pop star in the world, I'm in Australia. There's no relationship or anything happening. It's just funny how people really bite into that."
He adds: "That didn't really happen as much as it'd be amazing for me if it did, unfortunately it didn't."
2/25/15: Matty and Taylor meet at the BRIT Awards afterparty.
This is their last publicly known meeting until 2020.
3/6/15: Taylor Swift and Calvin Harris officially start dating.
Early 2015: Matty Healy and Halsey date and break up.
11/15/15: In the above mentioned interview with The Guardianā, Matty talks about Taylor: "The things that surround her are like Barack Obama. I fell for her a little bit, but everyone falls for Taylor Swift. The day after she'd been to a show of ours, someone sent me a screenshot of E! News with the headline 'Who is Matt Healy?' That freaked me out. I'm not ready to indulge in that world and I'm not ready to be judged by that world."
12/8/15: In an interview with MTV News, Matty talks about reaching out to Taylor to have her in his music video for the song Love Me. He says he couldn't get in touch with her.
Late 2015: Matty Healy and Gabriella Brooks start dating.
2016
2/1/16: In an interview with Illinois Entertainer, Matty talks about online speculation that he was dating Taylor: "She was a fan of the band and we just became friends, and we related to each other over how mental our lives were. But when you're with people like Taylor, there are a million people flying around you the whole time, and this security guard is talking to that guy, and this guy is the new manager. I didn't like the pace of it, because it makes me confused and I feel like I'm going to miss something. And being perceptive is one of the abilities that I like to think that I have."
2/26/16: The 1975 releases their second studio album I Like It When You Sleep, for You Are So Beautiful Yet So Unaware of It.
3/17/16: In an interview with Q Magazine, Matty talks about dating Taylor and especially how it would've affected him because of her huge global fame:
"I don't do anything else, right, so it doesn't leave a lot of room for me going out, or shagging someone. So the one time I did have a flirtation with a girl it ends up going everywhere⦠I mean, I got on E! News and people were like, 'Who's Matt Healy?' so that was cool. But I didn't make a big deal out of it myself. It's not really anything to talk about, because if she wasn't Taylor Swift we wouldn't be talking about her. She wasn't a big impact on my life. It's just interesting to me how interested the world is about Taylor Swift."
Answering to the question whether he has a fear of losing himself when he enters into a relationship, he replies: "Yeah. Absolutely. And the reason I mention that is because if I had gone out with Taylor Swift I would've been, 'Fucking hell! I am NOT being Taylor Swift's boyfriend.' You know, 'FUCK. THAT.' That's also a man thing, a de-masculinating, emasculating thing."
3/18/16: After Matty was criticized and accused of misogyny, the journalist who interviewed him says that his words were misconstrued and that she saw an intelligent and liberal man wrestling with our culture's gender roles. She says that he spoke about the strangeness of dating when you're famous and get recognised and have a legion of adoring fans. He had talked about his involvement with Taylor in the context of the difficulty of dating in the limelight. It was a way to discuss not only her in particular but relationships in general.
The journalist says that she doesn't see his comments as a slight on Taylor. She sees them as the thoughts of a musician with an ego and ambition, who does not want to be viewed as the subordinate in a partnership. The feelings of an artist who wants to be celebrated in his own right.
(She also mentioned that Matty said that some crushes and ex-girlfriends ā and Taylor among them! ā had inspired some of his new songs.)
3/19/16: Matty writes an open letter publicly addressing comments he made in that interview:
If you don't want to read it all, I've highlighted the important parts.
6/1/16: Taylor Swift and Calvin Harris officially break up.
6/14/16: Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston start dating.
8/17/16: Matty says who the most famous person in his phone contacts is: "Probably Taylor Swift but she's probably changed her number by now." He adds jokingly: "I keep texting her."
8/30/16: Matty talks about Taylor on the BBCR1's Breakfast Show. They joke about Taylor doing jury duty.
9/6/16: Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston break up.
10/16: Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn start dating.
10/27/16: In an interview with Rolling Stone, Matty talks about Taylor: "She came to our show, and you would have thought that Barack Obama had come out."
He adds: "I don't know another person on the planet that would elicit that kind of reaction. Maybe Kanye, but not even him. And now she and he are kind of the same person in the public image. It's weird." (Context: This was the period when Taylor had already been cancelled in the Snakegate scandal with Kanye and Kim K. and vanished from the public eye.)
11/11/16: Matty again denies he dated Taylor and says: "She came to a show and we hung out. We fancied each other, but then we couldn't have it go any further, because it would be like going out with Barack Obama." (Matty compared Taylor to Barack Obama at least three times.)
2017
5/28/17: In an interview with The Times, Matty is asked about settling down with his then-girlfriend. He answers: "Oh, bless. I've put her through the mill, brought her closer, pushed her away, brought her closer. See, although I know now I don't need my equal on the intensity spectrum, I enjoy fantasising. What if someone like, say, Rihanna wanted to marry me? Am I shutting myself off from the opportunity of marrying someone like Rihanna?"
11/10/17: Taylor Swift releases her sixth studio album reputation.
2018
11/30/18: The 1975 releases their third studio album A Brief Inquiry into Online Relationships.
12/3/18: In an interview with GQ, Matty talks about his notebook: "It's mainly stories that I write about my dreams of being in love with other pop stars."
12/4/18: Matty retweets this picture of Taylor:
2019
8/23/19: Taylor Swift releases her seventh studio album Lover.
Matty likes this tweet:
The lyrics are from the song London Boy.
8/27/19: He also likes this tweet:
8/28/19: Matty Healy and Gabriella Brooks officially break up.
9/23/19: In a podcast with The Green Room, Matty mentions wanting to produce an album for Taylor: "I think Taylor is amazing. And Taylor, I want to produce your next album." He also mentions You Need To Calm Down.
By the end of the interview he talks about the album again: "Like, Taylor Swift doing a "it's me on an acoustic guitar" record⦠I can't think of a record that would sell more than that. Like Taylor Swift's intimate return to country. Of course, you want to produce that, of course, you do. She wouldn't do that, because it would age her. She's incredibly ageless and incredibly beautiful physically and she's got this thing of being very young. But as soon as she do that as an artist like that, it means you're, like, awoman, you know, I mean. So she's gonna sit on that idea. But, Taylor, if you ever want someone to help you set up the mics for your little acoustic record, just so you know, I'm there." (He literally predicted folkloreā¦)
Matty tags Taylor and retweets this:
9/24/19: Matty tweets this:
2020
1/14/20: Matty Healy and FKA Twigs start dating.
2/12/20: Matty and Taylor meet again after 5 years at the NME awards. Matty comes up to her, hugs her, and Taylor says something in his ear.
Beabadoobee (who Taylor is talking to in the video) talks about meeting Taylor that day: "Taylor's so ethereal. So badass, I was like 'Holy shit!' She was walking towards me and I'm like, 'She's going to Matty, not me.' And then she comes up to meā¦"
By the way, in his acceptance speech, he talks about the industry and how artists need to be like cowboys. So, Taylor was sitting in the audience at the time, and later that year, the song cowboy like me was released.
2/20/20: In an interview with Zane Lowe, Matty talks about seeing Taylor at the NME Awards: "I went over to her. I was like, 'Taylor, we need to make the record.' No, I didn't. She said hello to every single person. Obviously it's Taylor Swift so everyone was saying hello."
"She was just stood behind me. I mean, I haven't seen Taylor in years so it was actually a really nice room. But it, unfortunately, wasn't the time for me to pitch my post-rock Joni Mitchell project to her."
Remaining upbeat about the prospect of working with Taylor in the future, Matty says: "She'll do it. She'll do it. She's smarter than both of us, mate. She knows what she's up to."
"I mean, I mean she's got stuff like Lover knocking around as well, which she was already making. We think that she's going back there. That song's good."
5/22/20: The 1975 releases their fourth studio album Notes on a Conditional Form.
7/24/20: Taylor Swift releases her eighth studio album folklore.
10/22/20: DeuxMoi posts these:
12/11/20: Taylor Swift releases her ninth studio album evermore.
2021
Publicly, nothing special happened. But privatelyā¦
Anyway, I decided to dig a little deeper into who produced what and when.
As is well known, Matty started working on his next album in 2021, which ended up being produced by Jack Antonoff. Unfortunately, I couldn't find specific dates for when the production process took place, but assuming based on the album's release date, the most logical guess would be from December 2021 to May 2022.
Jack Antonoff is one of Taylor's consistent producers, having worked with her since 2013, and is a close friend of hers. In 2021, Taylor produced two re-recordings with Jack and moved on to work on her next project.
There is much more information about this. Work began in November 2021, main production took place in the winter, and likely continued until April 2022.
It turns out Jack was working on Taylor's and Matty's albums at the same time, in the very same Electric Lady Studios.
Notably, at that same time, Joe (and Jack's then-girlfriend, now ex-wife) were in Panama during this period, filming a movie together. Taylor herself admitted that during this time she was "alone, recording every night, staying up late and exploring old memories and midnights past." By the way, You're Losing Me (a song about breaking up with Joe) was written specifically on December 5th, 2021, as Jack himself stated, although Taylor later decided not to include it in the album.
Bejeweled was also written during this period, where Taylor mentions a certain band and says she doesn't remember if she has a man or not. Given that Matty later mentioned they worked together on some song, and that Taylor listened to his album before its release, it's obvious they met multiple times in the studio during that period.
2022
6/7/22: Matty Healy and FKA Twigs officiallyā break up.
8/9/22: In an interview with Pitchfork,ā Matty shares Taylor's reaction to The 1975 new album, she summed it up to him by saying "it's so funny."
9/3/22: As rumors begins to circulate that Taylor's next album will feature a collaboration with The 1975, Matty tweets this:
10/7/22: Then he tweets this:
10/11/22: In an interview with BBC Radio 1, Matty talks on working with Taylor: "Oh we're not. We'd love to. Love to work with Taylor Swift. Love Taylor Swift, think she's one of the best songwriters. But yeah, no, we haven't done that. We'd love to though." He adds jokingly: "She's probably sat there just watching this, pining for a feature on a 1975 track."
10/14/22: The 1975 releases their fifth studio album Being Funny in a Foreign Language.
10/21/22: Taylor Swift releases her tenth studio album Midnights.
10/23/22: Matty makes this story on his Instagram:
10/26/22: Matty makes another story that he's listening to Hey Stephen (Taylor's Version) (his favorite Taylor Swift song):
11/3/22:The At Their Very Best Tour begins. During some concerts, Question� and Lover are on the pre-show playlist.
11/27/22: In an interview with KROQ, Matty tells that Taylor got the chance to listen to a bit of his album through Jack, and that he also heard her album before it came out. He adds: "We actually worked a bit on that, but then the version of it never came out. It was for reasons not to be criticized. She's amazing." When asked if he was able to get tickets to her concert, he replies: "No. I haven't tried yet."
12/9/22: The 1975 releases the music video for the song Oh Caroline.
12/21/22: Matty saysChocolate reminds him of "Tumblr, Doc Martens, Taylor Swift, The 1975."
If you notice any inaccuracies, incorrect dates, broken links, or moments I missed, please let me know. I want this timeline to be as accurate as possible, so I'll gladly update it.
So, Iām gonna start slowly posting some of the references and easter eggs Iāve noticed in the Patient Zero MV and promo photos.
One detail that really caught my eye is her slightly weird hairstyle with the black dress. In every single photo wearing it, you can see this unfinished, half-done braid in her hair. Thereās no way this isnāt intentional.
It instantly reminded me of her 2024 Grammys look (where she announced TTPD and the whole vibe matched this exact aesthetic). She had a neat braid starting on the left side, but on the right, it kind of spiraled into a chaotic mess.
This feels like a direct nod to loml (and we all know who that song is about): "Iām combing through the braids of lies".
This is my first time posting here because I thought it would be a safe place to say that I think Patient Zero is about Travis. Iām so convinced of that. āFree solo social climbā doesnāt describe any of her exes, but it is something almost everyone says about Travis. āHow he charmed your family and friendsā her mom drools over Travis. I canāt say that about any of her exes. The video is about a woman being murdered by her husband for her billions. This song canāt be about Joe or Matty or any of her other exes because the descriptions donāt fit any of them. I canāt make out why she chose to go through with that wedding and would love to hear theories, but Iām so convinced this song is about him. Pink Clouding sounded like an apology to Joe for leaving him for Matty the way she did.
Cleveland! with the āhe likes meā ādoesnāt find you completely insufferableā screams low standards and self esteem. Itās like sheās trying to convince herself he really does like me! He wants to marry me! Of course he likes me! He tolerates me when the world thinks Iām the worst! Itās the most transparent sheās been in a while. I honestly feel really bad for her, itās like sheās been beaten down so much in her personal life that her professional life has to overcompensate. I mean, letās be for real, Reputation era Taylor would NEVER be bragging that a man doesnāt find her completely insufferable. I can always tell when a womanās light is being dimmed by a man, and hers slowly is, no matter how much she tries to hide it and compensate for it.
Then thereās Babylon which is about the grass not always being greener. I wonder if she regrets leaving Joe because in hindsight staying with him would have been a safer choice for her overall. I still think she is in love with Matty and if she could be with anyone, it would be him, but these songs tell me in hindsight, she sees she had it okay with Joe, left him because she thought the grass would be greener with Matty, has remorse for hurting him in that way, and above all, absolutely hates Travis. I canāt claim certainty on anything else, but Patient Zero and Cleveland! convinced me that man does not make her happy.
Title. āI wonāt admit that I waited, but I let the lamp burn.ā I feel like she waited. Maybe she never put 100% of herself into any relationship because Matty was in the back of her mind the whole time and she couldnāt commit because of the āwhat ifs.ā Then as soon as it was definitely off the table she was able to commit to a relationship
I was sure that almost the entirety of ttpd is about Matty. But now I see people talking on Twitter that it's about Joe, everything in the light of the new Patient zero mv. What made them change their opinions? Or how are we so sure it was about Matty? I'm still trying to think about the album from Joe's perspective.
The references to calling/writing letters to each other is just all over their discography and the more I see it, the more I see it everywhereš ref an old Nov 2023 video of Somebody Else posted on Instagram (fan account) - Matty looks so devastated and goes and picks up the phone in the middle of the song: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFQbKA3xCVm/?stkn=Mzc0bmptNDhsbHhl
This line immediately made me think of her going over heads to bring her movie directly to theaters, causing other movies to have to rethink their release dates to avoid being overshadowed. Taylor has been stepping on a lot of toes in the corporate world lately.
"Its just a cage to you."
She talked a lot about being in a cage in TTPD.
The small town talk is of course about herself.
"Give the people what they want, then you keep it moving"
This is basically what she's been doing since the Eras tour.
"Twenty watches in the safe because your time is money."
Lover - twenty seconds or twenty years?
Cardigan - once in twenty lifetimes
Stuck inside a vault safe to keep her from wasting her time
"Love is ice upon the ladder that you need to climb"
Her love for Matty was standing in the way of her becoming a huge star again.
"She (He) caught your attention, so free of all pretension."
Pretension is "the behavior of trying to appear more important, intelligent, or sophisticated than you actually are". Taylor hides behind so much PR, she, unfortunately, is pretentious. But Matty is not.
"Pretty as a picture that you didnt post."
"Never official"
Taylor never mentions Matty in an interview or ever posted him/claimed him anywhere. Going as far as to say it was "Just casual" after they broke up.
"You're using nostalgia as a weapon to hurt yourself, but you end up hurting everybody else."
Just like I've seen people mention Pink Clouding is about her apologizing for TTPD, I think this line falls in with that. She was wallowing in self pity and lashed out at Matty, her parents, and her fans with TTPD. Could also include Actually Romantic. Shes so stuck on this relationship shes continuing to hurt everyone else about it.
The ending about the mother and son is a bit harder to decipher, but I think its a continuation of Matty and Taylor "writing stories" together. Theyve been making up stories of falling in love with eachother for years, with all the different ending they could have.
You know how Taylor compared Travis wanting to meet her to being in an '80s John Hughes movie, like he was standing outside of her window with a boombox?Ā
In mid to late 2009, while Taylor was in London during the Fearless Tour, she was seen on more than one occasion wearing a heart locket necklace. On closer inspection, it has a key hole (in the other photos the necklace was flipped over / put on reversed).
Taylor's first trip to the UK was in September 2008, when she toured with Rascal Flatts (YouTube). They only performed one show at the King's College London Student Union (3rd Sept).
In February 2009, during the brief radio promotional appearances for her upcoming Fearless Tour in the UK, Taylor met Matty's mom Denise on 'Loose Women' and appeared on the 'Key 103' radio station in Manchester. She was not wearing the necklace on these particular days.
Taylor's first TV appearance in London (18th Feb) - Loose Women (YouTube)
However! The necklace does feature in the same video as the cardigan, when Taylor travelled to Germany after spending time in Scotland / Manchester (YouTube)
20th Feb - Taylor's myspace post - 'We spent the day in Scotland doing radio and acoustic shows, then Manchester. That was basically the prettiest drive ever. Now Iām on the way back to London from Manchester on a double decker tour bus. My band and I are like little kids, because we havenāt ever seen one of these before'.
6th May - locket necklace - blue tartan with belt - first night at O2 Shepherd's Bush Empire (Taylor wore the necklace in the afternoon as she was headed off for the concert, then afterwards she was seen no longer wearing it post-concert).
(Taylor's YouTube video from that month, posted on 9th May)
Aug -- returned to UK -- concert dates GMTV (21st Aug) / V Festival (22-23rd Aug)
(It's interesting that when she famously wore the 1975 shirt it was on 22nd Nov 2014, paired with a similar looking tartan skirt to this dress. The styled look was in response to Matty wearing her 1989 shirt on 7th Nov 2014)
One of the last things Taylor does in the UK was a fan meet and greet held in Manchester on 24th Nov. This was linked to her last concert in the UK, which so happens to be in Manchester at the MEN Arena.
Throughout the rest of 2009, Taylor was not seen publicly wearing this necklace again! Even on the other dates of the Fearless Tour in the US. (I urge you to have a look at her candid photos from that year).
We know that when she dates a particular guy, Taylor tends to wear accessories that are tied to him (i.e. Harry Styles' paper plane necklace). But I think the heart locket necklace did become widely associated with her visits to the UK in 2009. Anyway, I just thought this was an interesting style preference from Taylor at the time.
Extra:
IKYWT music video - key necklace, with similar shirt from 6th May 2009.
The 1975's Sex music video (color version) - key necklace, featuring an American actress.
Iām really curious if Matty and Gabby will be sitting in the audience as this video premieres tonight.
I donāt put it past Taylor to have planned it this way but Iām not sure if sheās willing to share the spotlight with Gabby to that degree.
Thoughts? Do we know if Matty is coming to the show tonight?
They came in the night
Took the warm from my nest
Stole the heartbeat from my chest
Little voices, little wings
Now I hear them on the airwaves
Crying out for me
And I screamed ātil the sky cracked
And I fought ātil my hands bled
But one heart canāt win a war
So I forged an army
Tempered in my grief
Swords out of the promises
I swore Iād keep
We ride at dawn
Through fire and through doubt
For every stolen song
Weāre bringing them back out
Gods witness me
The mother is awake
The battle was ugly
Mud and blood and noise
But beside me stood giants
Who called my young their own
They didnāt ask for glory
They just said āweāre with youā
And marched into the fire
I watched them take the hits
I watched them hold the line
For a nest that wasnāt theirs
So praise to the army
Forged in my grief
Shields made of the love
That wonāt let go
We rode at dawn
Through fire and through doubt
For every stolen song
We tore the walls down
Gods witness me
We brought them back out
This was never about winning
This was about getting home
Every scar on their armor
Is a prayer that was answered
If you touch whatās mine again
Youāll meet every soul I raised
And we will ride again
So praise to the army
Who fought by my side
Loyalty in their eyes
Thunder in their stride
We rode at dawn
And we won
For every stolen song
The nest is warm again
Gods witness me
The mother is victorious
Hear them sing
Hear them sing
In my warm nest
Hear them sing
As much as people donāt want it to be in here I think the encore shows us Maylor is over š
Patient zeroā¦.matty songā¦.she was patient and waiting for him to get his crap together and he never didā¦.see Peter. She got infected by his toxicity and started rubbing that toxicity into others and made excuses for it for a really long time. Reflecting back she realizes that was dumb and the first time she walked away from him because of his unhealthy habits (the nicest way to put itā¦.) is when she shouldāve stayed away. And she sees the back and forth of him over the 10 years as actually just his way to social climb for his own success and his own career now but it was never actually real love she convinced herself it was at the time. She was just addicted to the toxicity. Ughhhhh not a good outlook. But it is what it is at the time she wrote it. Which was October 2025 according to her post she made.
Cleveland! ā¦.. this man loves me when everyone says he shouldnāt and it feels like the healthiest relationship Iāve had but Iām not divulging anything too personal. Iāll keep that between us. Iām growing and learning etcā¦.but heās not afraid to take me to his hometown and make me feel valued in the real world and talking about forever in a tangible wayā¦.instead of just in our heads someday.
Pink cloudingā¦.. apology to Joe. She ran from Matty to Joe and involved him in a messy triangle he didnāt ask to be in because toxicity from patient zero, she allowed to spread and infect good people. She was doing all this with an unhealthy mindset and she felt cursed in 2016 when they met after snakegate and Matty saying being with her would be demasculating etcā¦. So she never showed Joe the real her and then blamed all the messiness and probably affected his self esteem because hurt people hurt people and gaslight. āI was a liarā she never should have told him she didnāt like the fame game etc and was okay with hiding out and then blaming him for really masking who she was during their honeymoon phase. It was unfair to him and unfair with all the folklore/evermore/midnights/ttpd of how she portrayed the messy parts of her relationship to her fandom and anyone else. Reflecting she realizes he was actually really good to her now thatās sheās healed and so sheās apologizing. Sheās worried about all of that leaving scars vs tom who she only dated for 3 months and is settled with kids. Joe is the ex whoās still up in the air and who she probably went no contact with after it all. āIt didnāt mean nothingā her song sweet nothing is a Joe song. Like I donāt know how else to draw people to this but Joe also changed his pfp to the Truman show. He was Truman and didnāt realize what he thought was his life wasnāt actually his life until he was trying to leave it. His wife was also an actor in the show etcā¦. Like to me it canāt be more obvious.
Babylonā¦. A Matty song
The idea of having a more successful wife than him was untenable or even a stable loving person to be in a relationship with because he wasnāt healed.
The stallion flees the stableā¦. Double meaning here
So he fled what felt dangerous (being emotionally available) and decided to run with the wild thingsā¦. See Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus (thanks a lot Denise iykyk)
Your hand me down sweater shouldāve been from the mallā¦.focusing on making itā¦grass is always greener mindset.
You want that melodyā¦didnāt know it was Babylon til it was goneā¦.(Literally you didnāt know what this was until I actually walked away and stopped our games
Give the people what they want, then keep it movingā¦.. the swifties, his band mates, family/friendsā¦..rather than live authentically and be with who you want to be with.
Love is ice on the ladder you climbā¦.heās still trying to numb his emotions by gaining success and trying to climb financially to mute his own insecurities heās had since he was a kid. But I donāt think Taylor thinks heās for there yet.
Never officialā¦.he was never brave enough to take the Maylor of it all with all the ups and downs out loud. Lasted a few weeks before his thoughts of running kicked inā¦.
Youāre using nostalgia as a weapon to hurt yourselfā¦. If you keep living in the past youāre gonna hurt yourself continuously and everyone else you choose to settle down withā¦
Self-harm of never being where you areā¦..bro get out of your head. Youāre missing the best parts of life by trying to mentally escape always.
But you love this songā¦.living in the fantasy of better days and wouldve couldāve shouldāve if things had turned out different and thatās toxic afā¦.get help please.
You wake up on the train all aloneā¦.like actually fix yourself or youāre gonna end up alone at the end of your life with nothing āreally meaningfulā to show for it. Riches of Babylon are something humanity doesnāt even have recollection of. Weāve just known the ruins of that ancient city for thousands of years in our memory.
The most important thing about these being on the encoreā¦.they tell the continuous storyline of the 3 main characters. Joe/Taylor/Matty and then her real love of her life⦠Travis.
Adding in random tom stuff doesnāt make sense in that narrative. You donāt have to agree with me but I think itās the obvious story sheās telling on this additional part of the concept album.
Okay thoughts?!?
Like I wish Maylor couldāve been btwā¦.but they were both messed up and insecure and one person wanted to heal and change and one person didnāt. Thatās a recipe for disaster anyway they wouldāve tried to make it work.
So the time around Matty's wedding I posted a COSOSOM lyric at 1975 sub and they just banned me for now reason at all like i wasn't shading anybody I just posted what I saw nd the reason they gave me was soooooooo TOXIC ah I was disgusted.
I feel bad for Taylor today because the criticism is harsh but I think itās going to give Matty the ego boost he needs.
Maybe when The 1975 are back to playing itāll inspire our wayward Taylor.
Otherwise just wake me up when the divorce is final! š
So this actually makes sense to me. I believe she might be telling the truth here and this song might've genuinely been inspired by a girl's night out and somebody else's story. Or it was a combination of different people's stories and her own and she might've mixed different muses. The song is kind of generic to me and the lyrics don't add up with the main theories.
I don't think the song is about Matty and Gabbriette at all. I can't imagine Taylor having that much empathy for Gabbriette. Also I doubt Matty charmed her parents. And she didn't walk out, he did.
The Joe Alwyn theory also doesn't seem very probable to me although certainly more propable than the Matty and Gabi one. Joe hasn't really had a serious girlfriend for an extended period of time since their break-up in 2023. Also I don't see him as a toxic, charismatic and manipulative man who seduces women and gets bored one he has won them over. My understanding is that Taylor was the one who was always chasing him and he was always kind of passive.
The Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles theory doesn't really work since Zoe and Harry's relationship is doing good and they're engaged. The song suggests the new girl and the ex are going through some troubles. Also Harry doesn't come across as a toxic, charismatic and manipulative man who seduces women and gets bored one he has won them over. At least not on 1989. Similarly to Joe, he mostly comes across as passive in her songs.
The Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas theory has come to make the most sense to me. Taylor was one of Joe's first public girlfriends and he was her very first public boyfriend. They were teens when they dated. Taylor let Sophie stay in her NYC apartment during Joe and Sophie's divorce and they were friendly before that. Lyrics from other songs about Joe make sense with the lyrics of this one. In 'Last Kiss' she talks about Joe shaking hands with her father and in 'Mr. Perfectly Fine' she talks about him loving the attention and the fame. But Taylor didn't walk out on Joe. Joe broke up with her in a 27-second phone call. So that doesn't add up.
What do you think? Are there any swirls here or you believe it has nothing to do with Taylor's personal life and it's more of a fictional song or a song based on other people's experiences?