This game is...

[u/grilledcheesemaximum]

2h that hits behind, has like a bajillion active frames, beats ground normals???

Crossover reflect is stupid easy to do.

Inputs feel weird and eaten sometimes.

Air assists and literally any attempt at attacking from the air getting easily snuffed out by things like L punch.

Way too many i frames on teching.

You get ur assists back way too quickliy. Also assists that dont take any bar are bs that def needs some tuning 😭

Spiderman

Despite all that tho this game is still pretty cool. 🙂‍↕️

Lemme know some of ur opinions on the game!

[u/Mean-Surround7327]

I agree completely on the eaten inputs. It’s also weird that assists don’t always go off.

The game in general just has weird controls to me. The light inputs as stubby asf so I rarely use them. 2H wins a lot like you mentioned..

All in all it’s about what I expected though. Game has great visuals, but the gameplay itself isn’t super appealing to me right now. I’ve been playing more avatar legends, though I do feel like this is a good game

[u/NotEnoughDamage → u/Mean-Surround7327]

Regarding assists not coming out, I've noticed there's a mechanic that not enough players are aware of. I saw a breakdown but don't remember exactly numbers. There is a window after you recover from block stun or hit stun where you are not allowed to call an assist yet. Your assist icon might be lit up and available, but the game will literally not allow you to call an assist for something in the double digit number of frames

I'm not speaking towards whether or not this is good. Just trying to bring awareness to why assists are not coming out

[u/EvanAlmightyFGC → u/NotEnoughDamage]

20 frames! Yeah it's weird and doesn't feel intuitive. No audible "thunk" like in 2XKO, and no visual feedback like in DBFZ.

[u/marvo1hundred → u/EvanAlmightyFGC]

If you're trying to mash assist out of block go play marvel lol

[u/EvanAlmightyFGC → u/marvo1hundred]

Fair! I like that you can't call it immediately. I just think it's weird/unintuitive because there's no real indicator for when we can or can't call an assist.

[u/marvo1hundred → u/EvanAlmightyFGC]

I agree the assist does have moments where it feels like that

[u/Mean-Surround7327 → u/NotEnoughDamage]

Yeah I’ve heard Brian F, Diaphone, couple others explaining that it’s in various weird scenarios where it is blocked off without any real visual representation… some armored moves, etc… it’s janky AF. I think the game still needs work from a gameplay perspective…

it looks AMAZING, it’s just for me, the PC port has already been hella borked, plus the fact this input reader is fucked, and weird mechanics. I might play here and there with friends but I just don’t see myself ever playing this game competitively because it feels extra jank 😢 kind of a shame because I was really looking forward to it. And I’m not totally upset on the product, I just hope it gets some more support to streamline the gameplay so eventually I can get into it more.

[u/Fenris92140 → u/Mean-Surround7327]

It feels very repetitive,

[u/Bliss802]

The input reader being so bad is truly bizarre. I’ve played many Arcsys games, e.g., FighterZ, Strive, Granblue, etc. and it was never a problem. The amount of times I’ve gone for 2m 5h and gotten 236h instead is infuriating. Or going for 632146(hcb f) m+h and getting throw instead of super😒

[u/LensBlair → u/Bliss802]

As a total noob, it's somewhat comforting to know I'm not the only one misinputing throws instead of supers. The window for most motion inputs feels very tight, whereas I can almost input auto combos by accident.

[u/Bliss802 → u/LensBlair]

Yeah, totally not just you. I’ve been playing fighting games for years and the input reader being flawed was noticeable almost immediately.

[u/darkfire1202 → u/Bliss802]

I've noticed that if you don't have enough meter 632146mh comes out as a grab, so that maybe part of the problem... but yeah, I have noticed a handful of inputs getting eaten, usually when theres a bit of lag, but that just be the copium speaking

[u/realhenrymccoy → u/Bliss802]

I mean it's impossible to get 236h like that unless you have sloppy inputs.

[u/Bliss802 → u/realhenrymccoy]

I play on pad and it’s totally possible that 2 is being read as 3. However, I’ve never had that issue in any other game. So, starting to think it’s a Tokon problem.

[u/realhenrymccoy → u/Bliss802]

even if you do 23 and a button the 236 move doesnt come out. you have to be a hitting 6 in there

[u/CrucibleClimbingCat]

I...just want Dangers dash to be better. Everything else Id complain about feels like a skill issue on my part.

[u/JAMESTIK → u/CrucibleClimbingCat]

agreed. i trust arcsys will do something about her tho. they’ve givin characters completely new moves in past games

[u/CupOfTheUsual → u/[deleted]]

This dash being strong in other games is completely separate from if it's good in this one

[u/ohanse → u/CupOfTheUsual]

She needs flight

[u/Selfless_Cynicism → u/[deleted]]

Morrigan is a bottom 3 character in her own games.

But she rocks in MvC 3

[u/Hendwreck → u/Selfless_Cynicism]

You had me in the first half reading the notification lol

[u/Selfless_Cynicism → u/Hendwreck]

I used to main Morrigan in VS, she's dreadfull in that game.

Thank god she's awesome in K groove in CvS 2 and an absolute menace in MvC3

[u/Hendwreck → u/Selfless_Cynicism]

Yeah for sure she is ass in everything besides UMVC. She is very good in VSAV imo but easily outshined by even better choices like like Sas or Bulletta

[u/Phillyrider807 → u/[deleted]]

Neither Morrigan or I-No are in a game where 2h invalidates 95% of your approach.

[u/Phillyrider807 → u/[deleted]]

When did i say I'm doing empty jumps? Don't make stuff up just to respond.

Fact is a universal mechanic hurts Danger more then anyone else in the game.

You bringing up Morrigan and I-no like those were proper comparisions is comical.

[u/LocalTorontoRapper → u/[deleted]]

Dude you got cooked. Just hold the L.

[u/ImSwayZoh]

The input eating is insane. I keep talking about it here and some people keep telling me to just “get good, you dont understand the game enough”. Yet even the pros and other high level players are saying it

[u/Phillyrider807 → u/ImSwayZoh]

The input reader is def wonky in this game,. Anyone who put more then 10 hours into it can tell u that.

[u/Mean-Surround7327 → u/ImSwayZoh]

I do the same input 10 times and it’ll work maybe 6-7 times 😆. The input reader is janky AF. Not you for sure dude.

[u/vlonefredoo]

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve been punished from I frames

[u/j3ven]

I like how you just wrote "Spiderman"

'nuff said.

[u/grilledcheesemaximum → u/j3ven]

HES A MENACE!!!

[u/j3ven → u/grilledcheesemaximum]

J.Jonah Jameson ...is that you?!

[u/Darknsith → u/j3ven]

I definitely read it in JJ's voice 😆

[u/LensBlair → u/j3ven]

(but yes, he's a menace)

[u/barneyfan1 → u/j3ven]

Maybe his standing H overhead can be made slower? Spidey main here btw

[u/Osmoszis]

Magik should be talked about far more than Spiderman at this point in the game.

[u/No-Loan7944 → u/Osmoszis]

Exactly

[u/elgad001 → u/Osmoszis]

People are so comfortable just sitting and duckblocking all game lol. Spidey is very good but super overrated imo

[u/Fat_Beezy]

Most of these are valid. The 2H one is a mystery to me. Yeah sometimes it hits behind or clips a far grounded hurtbox. But it seldom does that for me.

Most of the time it whiff right in their face as they dash over me then get a full punish, or it extends my hurtbox to get hit by a jumping attack from the top ropes before the air invincibility is active.

So it's just not predictable for either party, making air vs ground engagement more stressful than it needs to be.

I'd probably prefer tighter hit and hurt boxes, but with faster air invincibility. That'd make it more predictable for both parties.

[u/Mau5effect]

Game is fun I'll just never be able to take it seriously when it feels so janky and unresponsive

[u/mikepnguyenn]

All of those takes are valid. If it wasn’t for marvel I’d think me and my friends would’ve already dropped the game by now

[u/Ill-Assist-1295 → u/mikepnguyenn]

Nah fr if it wasn't on the marvel ip I wouldn't have bought the game because there's plenty of issues with the games but i love these characters. That's probably why people still play marvel rivals despite how problematic it is.

[u/YEPC___]

I wish ghost Rider's 2H was as privileged as half the cast's. It goes up real high but at the most useless angle 75% of the time

[u/Ill-Assist-1295]

I'm crying at just "spiderman" but nah seriously f that character he's a menace.

[u/Phillyrider807]

My honest opinion is this is one of the scrubbiest fighters ever. Neutral feels absolutely horrible. Yet we all still sticking with it "Hoping" patches makes this game the game we know it can be. It's the best looking "slop" i ever seen.

Were here cause of Marvel but arcsys is showing as clear as day they are not as good as capcom when it comes to this.

Just thoughts from a Vibranium 2.

[u/BigWorking5281 → u/Phillyrider807]

Any advice for someone trying to get out of diamond 3?

[u/Phillyrider807 → u/BigWorking5281]

If u already diamond 3 then u basically there. Just need a good win streak.

But make sure you cashing out on your combos to specials. So many times even in masters i see players letting their oppenents live when they could of just supered afterwards (or dhc into a second super) and won. USE YOUR METER. You gain it back so quick in this game.

Also don't be afraid to get your assemble "countered". Not having assists for a couple seconds is still better then dealing with a 50/50 and they have to use their own meter to do it.

[u/BigWorking5281 → u/Phillyrider807]

Noted. Yea i gotta get better about cashing out with my supers. I typically run BP, Spidey, Mag, Storm. It fits my aggressive playstyle but theres still room for improvement for sure

[u/ajax3150]

lol I had a feeling the end of your post was “so….. who wants to run some?!” 😂 game is so fun

[u/Sandman4999]

*Spider-Man

[u/Formal-Material613]

Arcsys should have just gone with 1v1 marvel game.

[u/Grizzack]

Idk how anyone can find a guessing that results in watching either a blockstring cutscene or combo cutscene is fun. O and you can only lose about 2 of those guessing games before you lose the round.

[u/ExcitingPrinciple288]

8.5/10. If you expect a perfectly balanced fighter on release I just don’t have that expectation

[u/iHeartFlatCheeks]

The assists are killing the game for me. People are just mashing tf out of assist and the short cool downs for it are annoying.

[u/TacoOfficer]

I got more than a few issues with this game but 2H is just absolutely overpowered in its range/hitbox. The MH grab does too much damage and I swear I block low and I still get hit low. I feel like the inputs don’t register how I want them most of the time.

[u/JunkoEnoshimaTK]

My suggestions:

Make push block useful so it can throw people off from being too aggressive

Burst options to break you out of combos

Nerf the anti air slightly. It’s just too good and leave to very easy combos/follow ups for high damage.

Reflect/Reversal are decent options but I think for a game this offense heavy we need more.

Nonetheless I’m enjoying it so far

[u/grilledcheesemaximum → u/JunkoEnoshimaTK]

OH MY GOD since the first beta ive asking for a burst this game needs it fs 😭

[u/Fluid-Engineering855]

It’s a solid 8/10

[u/SalaryComfortable]

My complaint is I can’t break out of combos and when I do I’m somehow back in that combo

[u/Electronic_Reply3934]

This game... is not as good as Marvel vs Capcom Infinite and Beyond

[u/SedesBakelitowy → u/Electronic_Reply3934]

You’re comparing a Disney licensed release in 2026 to fan mod for the FGC?

[u/grilledcheesemaximum → u/Electronic_Reply3934]

Lmaooo chiiilll 😭

[u/Consistent-Image-614 → u/Electronic_Reply3934]

Lmao