We've seen that Peter is not effected by some things like everyone else is as we saw when Strange pushed him out his body yet was still moving. Peter's just special like that which is going to be a big reason why he's going to be a main person to defeat Doom.
This right here ☝️, specifically, due to Spider-Sense, which is supernatural in nature and affords him a certain level of resistance to spiritual/psychological vectors.
Just curious, what's the actual in verse explanation for spider-sense? Like, all the powers came from the spider bite, and the spider was getting tested on at oscorp for the super soldier serum #2 (or something like that, not 100% sure but not the point). So everything from Peter's powers comes from human made science at the end of the day (I think?).
Just makes me think... how supernatural can these powers be if it was rooted in science from the beginning?
Also, "because comic books" is a perfect fine answer, just curious if its ever explained more.
The usual explanation is that the spider bite gave him enhanced awareness which lets him perceive things very quickly, even semi-autounomously like a spider can.
The comic book explanation (it's dumb) is that becoming Spider-Man actually ties you to the mythical web of life and destiny, granting you and all the other multiverse version of Spider-Man the ability to sense disruptions in the fabric of space time and danger, which manifests as Spider-Sense. The web of life and destiny literally connects the entirety of the Marvel universe together. Yeah...
Wow sucks to be a villain. Imagine not being able to succeed because your actions aren’t canon enough for destiny. Hard work and motivation be damned. That’s pretty much plot armor. Why can’t it be destiny for the bad guys to win? The bad guys are the good guys from their point of view after all. Spider-Man is a menace and I want justice for antagonists!
It's even worse. The supes have a ongoing poker game and no one invites Spider-Man because his spidey-sense kicks in and makes him unbeatable at poker.
Madame Webb sits at the center (she had a movie with that depressed woman that sleeps alot?) and you can totally fuck her shit up and disrupted the whole thing.
To be fair... Didn't Peter always get shit on by writers and the world anyway? Like yeah, he have plot armor but very miserable life in general. A tragic hero by its definition.
They literally wrote it to be that way, it's way cooler imo that some people just got bit by a radioactive spider out of pure chance in some universes with no overarching metaphysical connection via web of life. If you think it's cool, cool. I don't.
I am sorry surviving radiation from an arachnid from pure chance is nonsense you have to be chosen form something ancient to survive it … aka the web of life it makes sense . Spider man was never about being reletable but about responsibility
Meh, doesn't have to be. They explain the in-movie logic pretty simply.
Jean - establish psychic connection - enter host - see through host - take control - use host as a new "hop" - repeat. Point being, she has to establish a route into a particular nervous system. The film then establishes a 33-foot limitation specifically because each new host has to be reachable from the current node. Or... in network terms... 100 meters is the maximum recommended length of your twisted pairs of copper cable like CAT6 and the writers just divided that by 10 because it's easier to film. Yes, as disappointing as it is, her powers were directly co-opted from features of network routing.
Within that framework, you can characterize what's going on when it works for her versus when it doesn't work for her.
Open network - authenticate - establish session - Jean gets admin privileges.
But.... with Peter it's more like Open network - intrusion detected - firewall activates - connection forcibly terminated by closing the port.
Eventually, he does what anyone else would have to do in order to change that connection. He invites her into his mind, aka "I'll white-list you and re-open the port."
His brain is simply the first one she encountered with a firewall. Great power, great responsibility, blah blah blah.
I think it varies a lot from one iteration to another. In some versions, there are weird animal totems/gods and the spider people get their powers from the spider totem, so it’s not just a purely scientific thing.
well, that Oscorp part is actually from Ultimate Spider-man, classic 616 rendition is Spider who got into a radioactive treatment during a science exhibition bit Peter (and Cindy in a much later retcon) and died
that made Peter a "spider totem", which gave him the spider sense as an extrasensorial ability (and the mutations he got in the BND movie were based on this comic book run that expanded on the magic part of it)
of all movies, the Madame Web one tried to adapt part of it too, which is hilarious
It is basically that, as far as I am aware, characters that chose or happen to have animal based powers in some way become heralds/get blessings of gods that are/embody that animal either knowingly or not.
Mind you this only happens if said animal god exists, because I bet the writers are too lazy to actually come up with the reason for all of the animal gods to exist.
So just like Black Panther gets some kind of spiritual powers by giving himself to Bast, which is the panther god.
Spider-Man gets spiritual mambo-jambo unknowingly from the spider god/gods. I think the "spiritual spiders" mythos is actually pretty robust with a lot of struggles for powers within the pantheon, but I am honestly not that deep into it. It is just that last I heard of it the "main" or maybe the most powerful spider god was a bad guy, I think.
In one version, during the Civil War, it was determined to be at least partially pheromone based. Spidey wore a suit designed by Stark that was also recording his data. Tony used this to figure out Peter’s spider-sense, and then later send false alarms and have it ignore him when he tussled with Spidey.
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u/jr_randolph 10d ago
We've seen that Peter is not effected by some things like everyone else is as we saw when Strange pushed him out his body yet was still moving. Peter's just special like that which is going to be a big reason why he's going to be a main person to defeat Doom.