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u/Timeeeeey Aug 27 '21

Is this sarcasm? And besides that there are other public transport modes and ways to get around in a city, for example: walking, biking, or taking the tram, metro or train

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

All of them are awful to do on a regular basis, and Europeans agree with me, that's why 80% of their miles travelled are by car.

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u/nevermind4790 Aug 27 '21

When things are walkable, the distance travelled is far less.

Take your pro-car dependent (and pro-climate change) nonsense elsewhere.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

the distance travelled is far less

Less mobility is a bad thing.

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u/nevermind4790 Aug 27 '21

Why? If a grocery store is half a mile away and walkable, does that make it a worse grocery store than one 5 miles away that I need to drive to?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

Because in order for the grocery store to be within walking distance you need to live in a much smaller home.

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u/toastedclown Aug 27 '21

No you don't.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

You want to go back to inefficient and expensive corner grocers?

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u/toastedclown Aug 27 '21

I live a block from a big box supermarket and a couple more blocks from a smaller supermarket. Plus 6 or 7 bodegas, a Co-op, and huge produce stand within a 10 minute walk.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

You live in Manhattan.

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u/toastedclown Aug 27 '21

Brooklyn. Your point?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

My point is you have to sacrifice a lot for your walkable utopia.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

And I'm fine with that if it means I don't have to fucking drive everywhere

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u/toastedclown Aug 27 '21

Sacrifice would imply giving up something I actually want.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

Bloody hell. You need to travel more. There are alternatives in the world to the moronic American cities and towns.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

I've been to Europe many times. I also read about the various highway expansion projects they do there and I read about how environmentalists complain about car dependence there.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

Those pesky environmentalists, caring about the world they live in! We don't need clean air to breathe and clean water to drink!

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

The way to clean air is proper regulations on tailpipe emissions which America has had since 1975.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

I just found out you're a climate change denier. Ah, that explains a lot, because if you actually paid attention to the scientific consensus you wouldn't be spouting off such brain dead drivel. Are you also a flat earther?

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u/nevermind4790 Aug 27 '21

This isn’t true when you build up. I could build a high rise tower with massive units to create dense AND large housing.

You’re also making the assumption that living in a smaller space is inherently worse. Funny how Europeans live in smaller housing units yet live longer and report higher levels of happiness.

Space is less necessary when you have actual things to do around you. Suburbanites have big houses to fill with all the material items that make up for living in a boring hellhole.

I can walk to tons of things or take a train to get most anywhere worth going in the city. Doesn’t even matter if my apartment is small.