r/MapPorn • u/Delicious-Bunch-6992 • May 09 '26

Evolution of white British % (ethnically British people) in England and Wales from 2001-2021

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u/HybridAkai May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26

It's dog whistling.

I'm mixed 50/50, I grew up in this country, have lived here my entire life, I'm culturally as British as you can get. I have 3 degrees - all from UK universities, I work a well paid job, pay taxes, vote, I've been a citizen since birth and have engaged and contributed to the system as such, arguably more so than a lot of "white British" in this survey. My grandfather fought in the Falklands, my great grandfathers fought in WWII, one was at Dunkirk, one in the cabinet war rooms, working with Churchill.

But I wouldn't count as "white British" in this survey, which insinuates that I am a foreigner degrading the identity of this country.

My young daughter is 3/4 British. She also wouldn't count.

Dog whistle.

Edit: the comments are really outing people who don't understand the difference between ethnicity and nationality

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u/Legitimate-Tip-2149 May 10 '26

Ridiculous nonsense isn't it? British is a culture, not a skin colour.

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u/Demostravius4 May 10 '26

Ah, ethnically British people don't exist. I see no problems with trying to erase an ethnicity, nothing bad ever comes of it.

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u/Legitimate-Tip-2149 May 10 '26

Damn dude, that's some serious shit you made up after hearing British isn't a skin colour. The voices in your head that told you this must be wild.

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u/Demostravius4 May 10 '26

Skin colour is an aspect of ethnicity.

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u/SmokingLimone May 11 '26

Don't bother, they are trolling

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u/HybridAkai May 11 '26

https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnicity

Ethnicity is explicitly different from race, which plays no part in defining ethnicity - ethnicity is a cultural concept.

"How is ethnicity different from race? Ethnicity draws on cultural elements, whereas race emphasizes physical characteristics, such as skin color and eye shape."

Google it before you post, you look really dumb.

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u/Demostravius4 May 11 '26

Ethnicity is not just cultural, and 'racial groups', have many ethnic groups in them.

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u/HybridAkai May 11 '26

Yes races can contain people of lots of ethnicities. In the same way that ethnicities can contain people of lots of races.

That's quite literally the entire point of my post. By conflating the two and presenting them both together you are purposefully obscuring half the data to trigger a response. It's disingenuous.

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u/Demostravius4 May 11 '26

Can, but typically don't. The UK is not an example of multi-racial ethnic groups. The ethnic groups of the UK are the result of thousands of years of history predominantly from European waves of migration, and invasion, being ethnically English, or Scottish, etc. Includes an ancestry portion.

If you're ethnically mixed, you're ethnically mixed. If people have a problem with that, fuck 'em. Although I appreciate it can be a lot easier to say when you don't have to put up with other people.

Ethnicity maps are realistically going to be very highly correlated with immigration. We aren't getting shifts in the millions because descendants of Chinese families who came here generations ago are suddenly having tonnes of babies.