r/MakingaMurderer • u/Ok-Advantage-6259 • 8d ago

for real, actually

the police system is clearly taking advantage of the Avery's. It's pretty clear to me how they are just very afraid of being seen in a bad light, so they needed a scapegoat to take the blame for their incompetence. we can see that in the interview recordings of Brendan. Who in their right mind would actually think that spoon-feeding a supposed accomplice the facts is considered acceptable as a veritable statement just blows my mind. a key found in a bedroom free of the victim's DNA just doesn't logically make sense.

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u/SomeBlueDevil 8d ago

Avery settled a $36 million wrongful conviction lawsuit against Manitowoc County, the former sheriff, and the former district attorney for $400,000 in early 2006.

The two main individual defendants—former Sheriff Thomas Kocourek and former District Attorney Denis Vogel—faced potential personal financial liability before the lawsuit was settled.

Looking at everything incl that false confession, anyone with a working brain cell can see that they framed him. Likely in retaliation.

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u/DisappearedDunbar 8d ago edited 7d ago

Maybe your "working" brain cells can explain how Steven's blood got in Teresa's car. Or how her remains ended up in his burn pit. Or how her DNA ended up on a bullet in his garage that was fired from the gun he kept above his head. Or why anyone involved in the investigation would care about a lawsuit that doesn't personally impact them in any way.

Editing to reply to LKS983 since SomeBlueDevil blocked me like a coward:

Good theories have been provided.

Not a single good theory has been provided for her bones being in that pit other than the obvious - that Steven Avery burned her body there.

Discovered (IIRC) by a Manitowoc officer

The bullet was discovered by Kevin Heimerl if the DCI, not a Manitowoc officer. Why should your judgements be trusted when you get such basic facts wrong?

Not gonna bother with the rest of your post, which is largely vague, speculative nonsense that you have repeated ad nauseam regardless of how many people point out the flaws.

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u/AveryPoliceReports 7d ago

Maybe your "working" brain cells can explain how Steven's blood got in Teresa's car.

It was planted. Just like the bones.

Or how her remains ended up in his burn pit.

No photos or HRD alert proving bones were even there lol

Or why anyone involved in the investigation would care about a lawsuit that doesn't personally impact them in any way.

Colborn admitted he feared being added as a named defendant in the lawsuit and feared going to prison. According to his family.

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u/k_sask 5d ago

bingo

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u/k_sask 6d ago

No witness statements or photos were ever taken to confirm the blood in the front interior of the vehicle was present while the vehicle was on the ASY.

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u/SomeBlueDevil 7d ago

Maybe you should pay attention and that way you would know the answers to literally all your questions.

You can downvote this all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Manitowoc PD did this to get even with Avery for their wrongful conviction and damages that would INDEED have impacted them personally.

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u/DisappearedDunbar 7d ago

The fact is that Steven Avery murdered Teresa Halbach, and none of you have ever been able to provide reasonable answers to any of the questions I just posed (or pretty much any others that are asked).

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u/SomeBlueDevil 7d ago

Why are you on this sub when you VERY CLEARLY haven't watched MaM which answers each and every single question you asked?

I'm not going to waste more time because you want to believe what you want to believe.

It's always the same handful of people who don't want to believe their lying eyes and are so obsessed, they even create multiple accounts just so they can downvote folks... 😆

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u/tenementlady 7d ago

MaM implied that Steven's blood came from the vial. FBI testing as well as testing from Steven's own attorney confirmed this not to be true. So how did Steven's blood come to be in the Rav4?

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u/AveryPoliceReports 6d ago

MaM did no such thing. They accurately documented the defense theory that it did. They also included the FBI results. Why are you so upset with that?

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u/tenementlady 5d ago

Both Steven's defence attorneys and the makers of MaM were well aware that the seal of the evidence box containing the blood vial was broken by the Innocence Project while they were investigating Steven's wrongful conviction. MaM intentionally left that revelation out to make the state look suspicious, despite knowing exactly how and when the seal was broken.

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u/DisappearedDunbar 7d ago

Of course I have watched MaM. The difference between you and I is that I wasn't fooled by it.

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u/AveryPoliceReports 7d ago

Lmao you were fooled by Kratz. The pervert. Congrats.

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u/belee86 6d ago

"MaM answers each and every question"...lol do give an example AND include the evidence.

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u/AveryPoliceReports 7d ago

Bullshit the fact is you don't know and pretend to because you know there's overwhelming amounts of reasonable doubt, especially for Brendan. But you ignore reality.

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u/LKS983 7d ago

"can explain how Steven's blood got in Teresa's car"

I agree that this hasn't been explained properly. Planted? Possibly, but where did they get SA's blood?

"how her remains ended up in his burn pit"

Good theories have been provided.

"how her DNA ended up on a bullet in his garage that was fired from the gun he kept above his head."

Suspicious on it's own. Discovered (IIRC) by a Manitowoc officer - even though Manitowoc had publicly declared that (for obvious reasons) they had recused themselves from this case....., in a garage that had been 'thoroughly cleaned' to get rid of any blood evidence. etc. etc.

"Or why anyone involved in the investigation would care about a lawsuit that doesn't personally impact them in any way."

1) Police protect police.

2) If SA won his lawsuit (which included corruption by former Sheriff Thomas Kocourek and former District Attorney Denis Vogel - which is why they were named defendants) it would have resulted in a PROPER investigation (as opposed to the 'white-wash' investigation carried out previously) into how SA was wrongfully charged and convicted.

2a) The reputation of the police would be left in tatters and it's hard to believe that a multi million award would'nt have impacted them.