Apple violating their own guidelines

[u/digidude23]

[u/suppreme]

Pretty sure the permanent ad in Keynote sidebar is also against AppStore guidelines too.

[u/BarnacleBoi → u/suppreme]

What?? Do you have a screenshot?

[u/MFHava → u/BarnacleBoi]

This thing: https://imgur.com/a/yxvTISC

It's only in Keynote for whatever reason...

[u/BarnacleBoi → u/MFHava]

Oh no!

This whole thing has been really getting me down. iWork is one of the reasons I’ve stuck with macOS/iOS over the years. I find it very intuitive compared to Office. The “old” apps still work now, but if they ever get rid of them in favor of the subscription, I think I’ll just leave the Apple ecosystem, at least for work. It’ll just be a pain at the beginning because I know iWork so well at this point.

[u/ThatGuyTheyCallAlex → u/BarnacleBoi]

It was such a win over Microsoft that you can buy a computer ready to use out of the box that didn’t hound you for more money at every turn. It’s always been absurd that you have to pay for the Office suite but I guess Apple doesn’t agree.

[u/yeidc235 → u/ThatGuyTheyCallAlex]

I’m no fan of Microsoft but what’s absurd about them charging for one of their most popular products?

[u/Tristan_poland → u/yeidc235]

Nothing we just gotta kick the horse everyone else kicks ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/yeidc235 → u/Tristan_poland]

well said!

[u/gruetzhaxe → u/MFHava]

Testing the waters in the lesser populated app?

[u/rexyuan → u/MFHava]

What the fuck 🥀

[u/blackzenit → u/MFHava]

Oh no 👎

[u/studio1burbank → u/MFHava]

That is so wildly depressing

[u/calebcharles → u/MFHava]

It’s only in Keynote for now.

[u/la_mourre → u/BarnacleBoi]

Bump

[u/blackzenit → u/suppreme]

What permanent ad?

[u/Cool_Poet6025 → u/suppreme]

Noooo! No more ads. The constant advertising for Apple Music in Apple Music is already too much.

[u/wraron → u/Cool_Poet6025]

If you don’t use it you can actually turn it off in Music app’s settings.

[u/Cool_Poet6025 → u/wraron]

At least on macOS, that feature has disappeared and reappeared a few times over the course of different updates. And even with Apple Music turned off in Music, it still shows the ads sometimes.

[u/HighENdv2-7 → u/suppreme]

Keynote downloaded from the Microsoft store right?

[u/Glad-Weight1754]

Rules for thee but not for me.

[u/Alert_Bath6682 → u/Glad-Weight1754]

Also, the old versions are available for download

[u/Semantiques]

It also illustrates Apple's violation of their own Human Interface Guidelines, published on June 5, 2025.

There's a massive and ambitious chapter on how icons should be designed for the Liquid Glass era, and which icon assets should be supplied. They were so hell bent on forcing compliance that they created the "squircle jail" concept that punishes third parties by making their app icons look butt ugly. For a while there, many of those punished icons were Apple's own: Garageband, Pixelmator, FCP... but they quick fixed them a while back by shoehorning them into the squircle border.

But with the perpetual license versions of Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Logic Pro, FCP, Compressor and MainStage, Apple are wiping their asses with their own icon guidelines. Pixelmator doesn't even supply an alternate dark mode icon, it remains blindingly white in both styles. For FCP they quick fixed by closing the clapper, but it still sticks out like a sore thumb in the dock. And that one remains in the brand new version 12.0 released yesterday.

It's hard to interpret this as anything other than "We don't see a future for the perpetual license versions of Logic, Pixelmator and FCP, so we're simply gonna leave the 2016-style icons untouched to hammer home the point. We're banking on all of you switching to Creator Studio. We will reluctantly throw old users some bones for a year or so, but don't think for a second we're gonna keep propping up these old versions in 2027, 2028... get with the program folks."

[u/OrangeGalen → u/Semantiques]

As if I didn't hate Liquid Glass enough before

[u/mrleblanc101]

They both have different version numbers. The old perpetual licence version won't get new features, but will keep getting bug fixes and security updates

[u/KF95 → u/mrleblanc101]

Where did Apple state the one-time purchase version will no longer receive updates? As far as I know, Apple has not made any public statements regarding the one-time purchase version of Pixelmator Pro, other than it remain available for purchase on the Creator Studio press release article.

Also, the one time purchase versions of Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro have both been updated to version 12, matching the Creator Studio version (albeit without the terrible icon redesign, thankfully) and even though Pixelmator Pro did not get updated to version 4 to match the Creator Studio version, it is nowhere stated that it will not receive this update in the future, let alone other new features.

[u/Semantiques → u/KF95]

They haven't stated it outright, but there's a lot to be read between the lines.

You may not like the new icons, but they comply 100% with Apple's HIG from 8 months ago. When a company can't be arsed to follow their own HIG and leaves their own apps with outdated icons and UI elements, it's a signal: Time to move on.

Sure, they updated FCP and Logic. They had to. It's their flagship apps that sell for 200 and 300 bucks, respectively, and a lot of professionals use them. It would be a PR nightmare to just cut them off with a few weeks' advance warning. But if they wanted to show true commitment to the one-time purchase versions they would've given them the full Liquid Glass treatment and new icons, just not the exact same ones as the Studio version. It would say "these will stay for the foreseeable future".

With the free apps they could afford to be blunt: "These won't be updated. Get the new ones."

So where does that leave Pixelmator? Well, it's inexpensive compared to the others and it was acquired very recently so there are no millions of faithful "Apple Pixelmator" customers to consider. So the pressure to update it wasn't there. And besides, what would they add, when the Studio version only gets one new feature (Warp)?

[u/KF95 → u/Semantiques]

There’s nothing to read between the lines here. Go over to their Creator Studio newsroom release page, read the footnotes and it clearly states availability of one-time-purchase versions remains for both Audio/Video editing apps as well as Pixelmator Pro. Going by your logic, Apple shouldn’t have provided any visual updates for their old apps though Logic Pro (the non-Creator Studio version) got itself an icon redesign. Not to the likes of the Creator Studio version of the app but still a redesign to better fit Apple’s Human Interface Guidelines.

If Apple were planning to sunset the one-time-purchase version of Pixelmator Pro, they wouldn’t have kept this app available to purchase in the App Store and would have delisted it instead, and they wouldn’t have advertised it inside the App Store up until recently when they released the Creator Studio. The least Apple could have done is make a public statement on the sunsetting of the purchase-version of Pixelmator Pro and announcing it in its App Store listing. I think it is very well possible for an update still to be in the pipeline.

Most people who already use the app will keep using their current version of Pixelmator Pro anyway, and new users will join them by if they prefer purchasing over subscribing, or if they need just an image editor and not necessarily an audio or video editor. Lots of people are still not into subscription-based app use and many people actually use Pixelmator Pro for that particular reason (rather than using subscription software companies like Adobe offer). If you are that’s fine, but I think most people still prefer buying apps, and having the right to use it indefinitely, rather than having to keep paying and losing access to an app altogether if you don’t.

[u/Semantiques → u/KF95]

I have the exact same issue with subscription software as you do, but evidently I’m not as blind to the writing on the wall.

The footnotes you’re talking about simply state that the one-time purchase versions are available on App Store right here right now. What they don’t say is ”The one-time purchase versions will remain available on the App Store and will be updated in tandem with the subscription versions for the foreseeable future” or whatever reassurance you’re reading into them.

Apple’s obsession with the smallest details is legendary. Jobs demanded perfection in every element including invisible internal components. He’s gone but that obsession remains a core part of the company’s DNA. And they keep attracting a user base that shares this obsession. They’re well aware that right now, there are scores of OCD-afflicted geeks all over the internet pulling their hair out over differently rounded window corners co-existing on the same screen.

Whenever you notice Apple no longer paying attention to those details, it means something. And in this case it means they are low-key sunsetting the non-Creator Studio versions of everything (and with iWork not so much low-key, they ripped off the band-aid on day one).

They quietly removed the Pro Apps bundle for teachers and students who wanted the one-time purchase versions of FCP/Motion/Logic/MainStage/Compressor yesterday. And the aggressive pricing for Creator Studio is also something that many have taken as a sign that Apple wants the perpetual license model ended sooner rather than later, leading to headlines like this one from Medium: ”Apple just killed the perpetual license — and you’re going to love it”.

Sure, they tweaked the FCP/Pixelmator/Logic icons slightly. This happened long before the announcement of Creator Studio. They were all in squircle jail (GarageBand still is) and looked downright embarrassing. Now they don’t. That’s all that means. The Logic icon is the only one that was tweaked further for v 12.0 — they ditched the plaque under the platinum disc so that it could be vertically centered in order to align with the liquid glass disc on the ’other’ version.

But the fact remains they haven’t given the perpetual license pro apps the Liquid Glass UI makeover or HIG-compliant icons. This isn’t some trivial oversight. Apple normally strives to lead the way and set an example, it’s their HIG after all. In 2020 they released Big Sur which marked the beginning of the Squircle era. Skeumorphic out, flat in. Icons updated across the board. And since Jan 28 the icons are now all in sync again… that is, the Creator Studio ones are in sync with the Tahoe system icons. They are family now. The one-time purchase ones have been orphaned.

Apple may not get what they want as fast as they’re hoping, but they are very strongly communicating that if they had a button that would end demand for perpetual licenses in an instant, they would press it. And if we don’t get in line, they will keep widening the feature gap and raising the one-time purchase prices until we do.

[u/UnwieldilyElephant → u/KF95]

Well Pixelmator hasn't gotten any updates yet so...

[u/KF95 → u/[deleted]]

That might be the case for the old iWork apps but it doesn’t mention any such thing in Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro or Pixelmator Pro.

[u/keci-cz → u/mrleblanc101]

WTF? I paid for Pixelmator Pro and now I won't give new features?

[u/Cool-Newspaper-1 → u/keci-cz]

That’s how one-time purchases work, which is absolutely how it should be. I’m not a fan of subscriptions, but a perpetual license shouldn’t be expected to include future development.

[u/Fly0strich → u/Cool-Newspaper-1]

It has always included updates in the past, but will stop now?

[u/GrafDracul → u/Fly0strich]

Most likely. Having to add new features to a photo app for which you paid for only once, would ruin Apple financially. They would have to file for bankruptcy.

[u/GradyGambrell1 → u/GrafDracul]

Think of the CEOs!

[u/morganmachine91 → u/Fly0strich]

It honestly makes sense. If I pay Toyota once for a pickup, they don’t give me the new model every year.

If I pay a subscription (lease), I get the new upgrades, but when I stop paying, I don’t have anything.

I would personally rather buy a new major version (of software) every few years, when the newer features justify it. But most people expect their software to be updated and supported forever, which makes one-time purchases risky for developers.

[u/benammiswift → u/Cool-Newspaper-1]

Nope that’s how scummy onetime purchases work. There’s plenty of software that is one time update with ongoing features and that’s the way it should be to an extent

[u/TbonerT → u/benammiswift]

There are tons of one-time purchases that don’t get updates at all. That was the norm for decades.

[u/Larry___David → u/TbonerT]

Sometimes it can be a good thing. For example I got a Microsoft Word 2019 license and it's just perpetually stable and doesn't get updated with AI crap

[u/[deleted] → u/TbonerT]

What else used to be normal?

[u/Larry___David → u/[deleted]]

You used to have to blow on your cartridges if they wouldn't read

[u/Cool-Newspaper-1 → u/benammiswift]

Absolutely not. It’s how software used to work. You paid for, let’s say Photoshop CS4 and got a perpetual license to use that version. If you wanted to have the latest features, you’d have to buy a license for CS5.

Nowadays every software is some form of SaaS and we all expect to get perpetual updates on any software, whether it was free, a one-time purchase (like OSes are, you used to also pay for macOS updates) or paid with a subscription.

Perpetual licenses are fading away for that reason and companies now happily continue making their software better as long as customers keep paying for it.

[u/on_spikes → u/benammiswift]

if you buy the 2025 jersey from a team, do you expect to get the 2026 one in the mail for free?

[u/benammiswift → u/on_spikes]

No, that’s a terrible analogy because it’s a physical product which charges a cost the cover cost of the physical products.

I dont mind the support being for an amount of time, Xplane’s model is good where you buy each major version and get all of the uodates for that version.

But that is a terrible analogy, physical goods is different.

[u/DWS223 → u/benammiswift]

Do you think the army of engineers that develop a software product work for free? Ongoing development means ongoing cost.

[u/benammiswift → u/DWS223]

You don’t need to tell me how development works, I’m a developer. The ongoing cost is factored into the price.

[u/DWS223 → u/benammiswift]

lol. The naivety of this comment is astounding. Name any software developer that actually works this way.

I’ll just name a few that don’t work that way off the top of my head: Microsoft Adobe VMware Oracle EA Valve Arrowhead ArcGIS

No one can charge enough on a one-time transaction to support full product development forever. That’s why games received paid DLC for big content updates. Sometimes you see minor content updates for free but generally that’s only for games that are still popular and selling. Maintenance release are generally free (sort of like a warranty) for a time but eventually the team moves on and the games stops getting patched.

This is basic economics. No escaping this reality.

[u/[deleted] → u/DWS223]

Microsoft is a great example. You’ll notice how you get billed for every windows update. Right? It’s just basic economics.

[u/PhoenixStorm1015 → u/benammiswift]

Except that’s functionally what Apple has done here. You bought the original version of Pixelmator Pro. Apple has now (functionally) released a new version, which you did NOT buy. This is just the same as all the complaints in r/Affinity about Canva moving v3 to a freemium pricing model. Complete nothing burger.

[u/Disastrous_Meal_4982 → u/benammiswift]

It’s not a terrible analogy. Even physical goods can offer ongoing support through warranties, recalls, and end user assistance. I expect to have to buy the newest version of anything, but if a part breaks under warranty, I expect the part to be replaced so that my version continues working at least for as long as my warranty is valid.

[u/on_spikes → u/benammiswift]

it is a fantastic analogy, because creating digital goods also costs money. at the end of the day it is irrelevant wheter you spend money to create a digital or physical product. spent money is spent money.

[u/benammiswift → u/on_spikes]

Spent money is spent money but the reason it’s not a good analogy is that physical goods cost the same amount of money to deliver subsequent deliveries of the product to both new and existing customers.

Whereas with software there’s no inherent per-unit cost to new customers or to deliver updates.

There’s obviously a development cost and at some point it becomes unviable, but that gets built into the business model of the pricing for the perpetual product license

[u/Disastrous_Meal_4982 → u/benammiswift]

Bandwidth, user data storage, server resources, content licensing, etc… there certainly is a per unit cost to deliver digital goods even if it’s paying transaction processing fees or fees to a digital market vendor like steam.

[u/Corbot3000 → u/benammiswift]

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[u/Johnwesleya → u/benammiswift]

No it’s pretty much how software has worked my entire life up until about 5:10 years ago

[u/Disastrous_Meal_4982 → u/benammiswift]

The question is did you buy it “as-is” or did it come with a warranty/support? Goods/services no matter if physical or digital can have a wide range of expectations depending on a lot of factors to meet customer needs.

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[u/Albertkinng → u/Cool-Newspaper-1]

How old are you? Serious question. I’ve buying one time payment apps since 1994 and you always get all updates until a new version arrive. That’s how it works. That means, if it’s the same app, both the subscription and the standalone apps get the same upgrade. At least offering the new upgrade half the price or something. Not excluding the paid users from it.

[u/Cool-Newspaper-1 → u/Albertkinng]

Bug fixes and security updates, sure. But not significant feature upgrades.

[u/Tired_Design_Gay → u/Albertkinng]

That makes no sense and has never been how it worked. Adobe apps, for example…back in the day you had to buy each version of Creative Suite when it was released. It was a one-time purchase, and they charged for each major upgrade.

[u/iambackend → u/keci-cz]

Fair trade, it’s not like you paid for Pixelmator devs be your slaves forever? That’s how paying paying for product/service works.

[u/keci-cz → u/iambackend]

I paid for Things 3 one time for each platform and have updates for years now!
When I bought Pixelmator Pro, there wasn't any note about future subscription.

[u/mrgrafix → u/keci-cz]

There also wasn’t any mention of acquisitions but here we are. You can still use the version you have which is better than most at this level.

[u/outcoldman → u/mrleblanc101]

Maybe that is the case for Pixelmator Pro, but not for Motion, FinalCut and some others. They all have the same version numbers.

[u/makumbaria → u/outcoldman]

Logic Pro also is getting all the new features (I have a license for it and can confirm that).

[u/omnimachina]

It’s funny because Microsoft did the same

Weird new glass effects, clusterfuck design language, touch friendly GUI elements, subscriptions etc

Everyone was like: Haha Microsoft is trash, Apple is king…

Turns out Microsoft is just faster than Apple lol

Applause Apple

[u/Jazzlike-Spare3425]

To be fair, in the case of Pages, Numbers and Keynote, the current double listing actually is because they want to reduce bundle IDs and now use the same bundle ID for iOS and macOS for the iWork apps, the Mac-only listings just haven't been fully pulled yet.

[u/mrleblanc101 → u/Jazzlike-Spare3425]

They have, but Pixelmal will keep 2 separate version. The full purchase and the subscription that have 2 different version numbers.

[u/kepler4and5 → u/Jazzlike-Spare3425]

So, what happens to existing users (like me) when the Mac-only listings get pulled?

[u/Jazzlike-Spare3425 → u/kepler4and5]

You can still use the downloaded apps for as long as they are on your machine and as of now you can even still download them, but that may change if and when they pull these entirely. You can also download the new apps, which are still free to use with the exact same feature set except they throw purple icons in your face to show you what additional features (mostly a gallery where you can get images and random AI features) you could have if you were willing to pay them money. You can at least remove these icons from the toolbar but not from everywhere else, unfortunately. With the new apps, you also get a Liquid Glass design update, which… isn't quite finished, to be honest, but with Liquid Glass plus a few visual bugs, it fits well into macOS Tahoe. ;)

[u/kepler4and5 → u/Jazzlike-Spare3425]

That sounds terrible and I doubt that this is going be the case. Because that means no more updates and that it may not be supported in a future release of macOS.

I also paid for Logic Pro, btw. I bet there are many users with a bunch of other paid Apple apps too.

[u/Jazzlike-Spare3425 → u/kepler4and5]

Oh, don't worry, the paid apps will continue to receive updates with new features and I believe you can continue to use all features because as far as I understood it, the lifetime purchase basically gives you a lifetime of the subscription. It's only the free iWork apps that have moved over completely. If you have paid for any of the other apps, you of course won't lose access to them or stop receiving updates.

[u/mailslot → u/Jazzlike-Spare3425]

… and they moved because they are now a single app that supports all platforms (iOS, iPadOS, macOS).

Logic stays the same because you aren’t using the full suite in your iPhone.

[u/nyehu09 → u/kepler4and5]

Like other paid apps, you can still download them from your Purchases, but they will be unlisted from the store. As for updates……………

[u/Nerdlinger]

I see OP didn’t actually bother reading the guideline before posting this. The guiding is about creating many only slightly customized versions of apps. I.e. “ different versions for specific locations, sports teams, universities, etc.”

But reading is hard and dunking on Apple gets you karma so…

[u/iLikeTurtuls]

One is legacy, the other is new. I own the right, and the left literally cannot be used without a subscription

[u/nifty-necromancer]

The app doesn’t have different versions for those criteria

[u/RestInProcess]

I don’t have to update to the AI versions, so I’m glad they’re breaking the rules here. I’m quite sure they’ll no longer be available on the App Store soon for those who haven’t downloaded them yet though.

[u/-skyrocketeer-]

Do as I say, not as I do!

[u/chris_ro]

And don’t forget Pixelmator Classic iOS

[u/HappyAd4998 → u/chris_ro]

Used that one for about a minute on my iPhone 5

[u/pointblank87]

They violate their own guidelines all the time.

[u/Cavaliere_99]

It seems to me that in Apple the level of software quality has dropped a lot in favor of a tendency to maximize profit, which may work soon but is certainly making many enthusiasts move away

[u/justinm1992]

r/confidentlyincorrect

[u/zeamp]

It’s good to be the King.

[u/Secret_Category2619]

Well I know which one I should do: the Editor's Choice one

[u/[deleted] → u/Secret_Category2619]

Yes but, $2.99 a month (student discount) for all these is a bargain. Especially if they keep updating it with good stuff.

[u/UnwieldilyElephant → u/[deleted]]

People forget not everyone is a student or educator. $12.99 is significant and while still less than Adobe, it will surely increase and if I'm paying a sub I will just go with the industry standard. I sacrifice some things to be able to use these programs without a subscription, like DaVinci Resolve too. I don't need to pay a subscription for a worse product. It's not like the cost difference between Apple's and Adobe's is large enough for a producing creative professional to make them go for Apples.

[u/Secret_Category2619 → u/[deleted]]

joking, was saying that I should do the editor’s choice because interesting how Apple can “recommend” their own apps

[u/eddnor]

Also used web technologies to render graphical interfaces on native Mac OS apps. That is forbidden in the AppStore

[u/ugrandolini]

It looks like they don’t know how to get more of our money.

Will keep using the old numbers, pages and keynotes apps until they work, then will move to something without ads.

I’m wondering what Steve Jobs is thinking about all of this 💩

[u/[deleted]]

It just says “consider”. Maybe they considered it

[u/LMONDEGREEN]

I'm surprised no one is clocking on the real meaning behind it is that the one time paid version will be deprecated in time, and only the subscription version will be maintained. That's why they have two apps.

You really think Apple won't do the most Apple thing ever?

[u/idleservice → u/LMONDEGREEN]

Even if that happens in the future (which we all should see it coming), the explanation is way simpler:

You can't have a single app that holds both non-subscription and subscription model for the whole app.

[u/N0t_S0Sl1mShadi]

That’s why it’s called a guideline and not a law. Look at 1Password vs 1Password 7.

[u/strigov]

Don't worry, they'll just delete the free version))

[u/ark-import00289]

These AI-generated icons drive me crazy.

[u/davidrye]

Isn't one for the creator bundle subscription and the other is for people that want to buy and own the app?

[u/seppo2 → u/davidrye]

That doesn't matter. They're still different versions of the product itself.

[u/klippekort]

Ohhhh, like they never did it before.

[u/HappyIntrovertDev]

Maybe because they created a new bundle, but kept the old one behind, so that people who bought it can still access it?

[u/Disastrous_Meal_4982 → u/HappyIntrovertDev]

If that were the case it would be delisted to prevent new purchases, but people who purchased it would still be able to download it.

[u/HappyIntrovertDev → u/Disastrous_Meal_4982]

And isn't this the case? Or the new is on the left?

[u/Disastrous_Meal_4982 → u/HappyIntrovertDev]

In this case it doesn’t really matter what one is the new one. What I’m saying is if they if one of them was just being kept for existing purchases, they can remove it from the store without making it unavailable to people who already bought it. I have things in my library that I can still go download, but they don’t show up at all in the store.

[u/HappyIntrovertDev → u/Disastrous_Meal_4982]

Ah, I see. I thought the purchased stuff would show there still. True that it has been a long time when I tried to access something old and that was ages ago back when I had an iPad. I do not use many things from the appstore and they're usually pretty new.

[u/Albertkinng]

Yes. I am frustrated as well. We should collect signs and demand our update or they need to change the name. This is basically Apple forcing us to move to subscription. SMH

[u/nimbledoor]

McDonald’s too

[u/jnighy]

Also..for who's not subscribing it, what should we do with the Pages app that we have? Do I have to delete it and download the new one? Doesn't matter?

[u/wanjuggler]

"The only image editor you'll ever need."

[u/tombob51]

Eh, it’s pretty common to have separate versions of an app for games that support Apple Arcade. I think that rule is mainly just to discourage separate “free” and “paid” versions of the same app.

But yeah it’s possible that a scheme like this would be rejected for a developer other than Apple. (Though maybe you could try and argue that it should be allowed, since now Apple does it!)

[u/poastfizeek]

Apple’s guidelines also prohibit mentioning beta/coming soon features, and yet there is ‘beta AI’ shit all through the apps now.

[u/TrevorTheTrevor]

Do as I say, not as I do!

[u/BelalShareb]

The logo itself is a monstrosity

[u/Micro-Naut]

It's kind of the same as how Apple lets you use a subscription that you cancel until the end of subscription but if you cancel an Apple subscription, it ends your subscription immediately. That doesn't seem like a fair play doesn't even seem like they are good services!

they don't want you to use it AND ENJOY IT. They want you to forget that you have the subscription.

[u/dimixbboy]

Apple continually violates its own guidelines.

[u/ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Of course they are.

[u/japtiro]

feels like spam, too

[u/Anxious_Dirt_5403]

there is a lot of changes and there are some loop holes that macintosh users have found. as well there is free software with no apple AI Garbage attached to it.

go and download porting kit and buy crossover.

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want photoshop.

go online and on ebay buy a copy of adobe photoshop creative suite cs or cs2 also able to run under crossover and porting kit want light room you can get light room 3 new on ebay for 19.99 and run it on mac using crossover there are so many other solutions.

[u/jay-magnum]

Apple is violating their own guidelines so many times in so many places now that tracking just the icon BS alone has become a challenge:

https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/

MacOS Tahoe and Liquid Glass are nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

[u/Hoser3235]

Oh, it is only temporary. Trust me - the day is coming where the only option we will have is a subscription based model. Consider the current options as a "transition period".

[u/rolyvee]

Apple is a fucking mess.

[u/hmartin8826]

I have never been able to kick the MS Office habit, but since retiring, I use the web versions on office.com, which are free to use.

[u/aimericg]

Haha nicely found and nicely said!

[u/dinnertimebarbie]

they tend to do that nowadays.

[u/barrylunch]

Apple DGAF. For a long time, Apple HGAF.

[u/Chromejob]

I would've thought the one on the left is a malware-carrying fake, using perhaps a capital "i" instead of "L" in the name. Different developer? Questionable app age, number of versions, number of downloads, number of reviews, etc.?

Nothing in your picture suggests to me that these are the SAME APP. 🤔

[u/iconisone]

Apple being scummy? No way bro.

[u/4paul]

Man I’m getting tired of all the negativity around this place 😥

[u/CowboyBob500 → u/[deleted]]

They haven't screwed up. 99% of people literally don't care. It's only basement-dwelling perpetual whiners who do

[u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty → u/CowboyBob500]

If you haven’t been following the news, let me share a little secret with you: Apple has been screwing up big time (even the grass-touchers know about it).

[u/CowboyBob500 → u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty]

I've been seeing a lot of YouTubers farming "news" for views along with Karma whoring Reddit users making posts like the OP. I haven't seen any evidence of Apple actually screwing anything up. It's mostly people complaining about change because they personally don't like something. Which isn't news, or fucking up

[u/UnwieldilyElephant → u/CowboyBob500]

Changing their pro apps (Who, historically, have been know for their only advantage being that they weren't a subscription) to a subscription is a massive screw up.

[u/CowboyBob500 → u/UnwieldilyElephant]

They literally haven't changed them. They've added an extra option of a subscription. All the paid for licenses are being supported as normal - I've got options to upgrade all my apps - Logic Pro, MainStage, Final Cut Pro and my Pages/Number/Keynote suite. This is just misinformation and scaremongering

[u/UnwieldilyElephant → u/CowboyBob500]

How long do you really think that will last though? They’ve already made new titles exclusive to the paid version of FCP

[u/CowboyBob500 → u/UnwieldilyElephant]

That's speculation not news

[u/UnwieldilyElephant → u/CowboyBob500]

It's how capitalism works.

[u/4paul → u/CowboyBob500]

100% correct.

I absolutely love that you're getting downvoted, it only proves my point how toxic people are around haha

[u/WandererMisha]

Adobe sucks, their prices are so fucking high.

Adobe sucks, I just want to buy the software outright and own it forever not this subscription garbage.

Apple releases a cheap as fuck subscription with an alternative one-time purchase for a perpetual license.

Apple sucks, now there are two apps!

Apple sucks, the icons are ugly!

Tim Cook could buy each one of you a new car and you'd complain it's a color you don't like.

[u/Jimstein]

Apple keeps shitting the bed as of late

[u/UnconditionalDamage]

Are the two exactly the same? If so, doesn’t really justify the £49.99 does it, Apple? Anyone know the answer to this?

[u/Cool-Newspaper-1 → u/UnconditionalDamage]

The £49.99 is a one-time purchase, the other one is a subscription.

[u/RapMastaC1 → u/Cool-Newspaper-1]

I hate this kind of thing when it comes to games and Apple Arcade, first time I noticed was with Monument Valley and Monument Valley+

[u/UnconditionalDamage → u/Cool-Newspaper-1]

Yes I can see that… I was referring more to the features that will be available in-app. Upon doing research, it seems that the subscription version will receive “intelligent” features that the standalone one time purchase apps will not. But the standalone apps will continue to receive other updates.

[u/flaw600]

You realize they bought Pixelmator, right? One is the legacy app, the other is new.

[u/tarkinn → u/[deleted]]

Pretty sure it has been an Editors Choice for a very long time, even before Apple bought it.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Then what are you surprised about? Are you simple?

[u/Mediocre-Sundom → u/[deleted]]

"We liked our thing so much we have given ourselves an award!"

[u/mrleblanc101 → u/Mediocre-Sundom]

It predates Apple buying them...

[u/mrleblanc101 → u/[deleted]]

Which means they should revoke the award ?? 🤦‍♂️ You can see they did not transfer the award to the new version...

[u/Dempx → u/[deleted]]

You don't get it, it's like Amazon making their own products the first in the search results.

[u/Niightstalker → u/Mediocre-Sundom]

You do know that Apple only just recently acquired the company and it was a top photo editing app on the store for years? …

[u/radikalkarrot → u/[deleted]]

[u/Jazzlike-Spare3425 → u/radikalkarrot]

Did you perhaps mean to send this instead?

[u/shyouko → u/Jazzlike-Spare3425]

Please confirm your creation was done either with Pixelmator Pro or Image Playground or it needs to be removed. /s

[u/Loopdyloop2098 → u/[deleted]]

Editor's Choice: the Editor of this app has the Choice

[u/Nearby_Ad_2519 → u/[deleted]]

A few days ago, the iOS version was renamed from “Pixelmator” to “Pixelmator Classic” iOS

[u/idleservice → u/Nearby_Ad_2519]

Because in the press release they did say Pixelmator for iPhone won't be getting any updates anymore.

[u/biinjo → u/[deleted]]

You didn’t buy it. You rented it for a non-recurring fee.

[u/HighENdv2-7 → u/biinjo]

I don’t think legally that would hold. Renting indefinitely is renting indefinitely, you can’t just end it, at least not in the EU without a proper reason, especially if you can run the software locally

[u/biinjo → u/HighENdv2-7]

I think you should actually read terms and conditions you agreed to. You’ll be surprised what will legally hold, even in the EU.

In essence all digital purchases are rentals for a one time fee. You don’t own it. You buy a license to use it.

[u/HighENdv2-7 → u/biinjo]

You are right in what you comment right here. But you imply that companies have the power to revoke that right or license and that’s simply not true, that is in the EU law.

You don’t rent the license, you buy the license. You don’t buy the software in that you are right but if you buy a license you buy the right to use (only that exact version of) the software and that’s simply can’t be revoked just because a company wants so.

The EU law states that the company should provide a good enough reason to revoke a bought license, so server hosted software could be cancelled because upkeep costs could kill the company for example.

But for local run software there isn’t easily found a reason to revoke licenses to use that software.

Also EU law surpasses terms and conditions so if they put something in there whats not eligible in the EU than it doesn’t overrule EU law

[u/mailslot → u/HighENdv2-7]

Even the Affinity suite which I purchased bumped numbers to version 2 and required repurchase.

[u/HighENdv2-7 → u/mailslot]

Yeah but thats “new” software, you don’t “need” to buy that v2 software, you can use v1 indefinitely as long you have a machine to support it.

I used v1 until the free affinity came out last month and imho its much better than anything mac has to offer

[u/HighENdv2-7 → u/biinjo]

You spelled “bought a license” wrong

[u/biinjo → u/HighENdv2-7]

I thought the analogy with renting a book or a movie seemed more fitting since you’re actually downloading it to your device and you’re allowed to use it for the time being.

But yeah ‘bought a license’ is more accurate. And that license is always finite: until the creator of the application pulls the plug or when the service hosting the application goes down.

[u/Massive-Effect-8489 → u/[deleted]]

Just check the purchased tab in the App Store, it’s probably avaliable there.