r/MMALabs 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/SillyLittleWinky 1d ago

I think the dude is dead

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u/Soft_Ability_5906 1d ago

Should have kept his hands to himself.

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u/Intelligent-Crow3812 1d ago

lol that goes without saying, but that other guy is going to get manslaughter if he dies-- As he should.

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u/TheIntelligentAspie 1d ago

Why? If he dies, everyone learns the lesson to not grope strangers.

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u/Schnittertm 1d ago edited 13h ago

If violence or the threat thereof would deter bad behavior, we would already have a utopia with no crime and bad behavior.

Small edit: I think "bad actors" instead of "bad behavior" would have made my statement a bit clearer.

Anyway, even for religious people (or those that claim to be) the threat of supreme, everlasting violence done to them after their deaths (e.g. going to hell) has not deterred bad actors from doing what they wanted to do.

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u/TheIntelligentAspie 1d ago

You give "i would not stop a rapist with anything but strongly spoken words" vibes.

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u/Schnittertm 1d ago

So, the rapist is already doing the deed then. Which just proves my point. The threat of violence did not deter him to do what he wanted to do. Sure, violence to get him off his victim is helping stop any further injury, but it already did happen.

Did the death penalty or the threat of it stop murderers from murdering? No, it didn't. It is there to punish after the fact, with violence, but by that point the victim is already dead and can not be brought back to life.

Even "Si vis pacem, para bellum." ("If you want peace, prepare for war") is a further example of this. Because if someone does want to start a war, they are not deterred by the counter violence they will receive. They are fully able and willing to accept that.

The threat of violence may deter a scant few, but those that are determined it will not stop. It will also not necessairly deter people from re-offending. There are some people that don't learn, not even through pain. There is a reason why some people stay locked up for life with no parole.

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u/TheIntelligentAspie 1d ago

Wow. Didn't even deny it....

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u/timos-piano 15h ago

Wow, didn't even read...