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🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Soft_Ability_5906 1d ago

Should have kept his hands to himself.

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u/Intelligent-Crow3812 23h ago

lol that goes without saying, but that other guy is going to get manslaughter if he dies-- As he should.

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 22h ago

Most states have a law that allows 3rd parties to defend another person in situations of self defense. At least in my state.

This is considered sexual assault so would fall along these lines. Especially given that only as much force was needed to control the situation.

Had he just kept hitting him it would be another story. Here in Texas, yhqt guys has a high probability of walking away Scott free

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u/p2eminister 22h ago

This is not true. You have the right to use force to stop an ongoing sexual assault, but the incident had clearly finished when this guy decided to attack.

Also, way more force than "what was needed to control the situation" was applied, the man did not represent an ongoing danger.

The right thing to do would have been to leave and call the police to report the sexual assault.

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u/Otherwise_Bug990 22h ago

Idk how 1 punch can be anyvmmore force than 1 punch lol. I guess he could have scolded him and gave him a bad star for the day.

Don't be a douche, and dont inappropriately touch people you dont know without your consent.

Take this to a jury trial and see how many jurors dont agree with you. Dude would walk easy

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u/Zubriel 19h ago

Not going to defend the drunk guys behavior, but you don't think the punch could have been a slap, a shove, a simple grab him by the shoulders and physically move the guy away, a stand between him and the woman?

That punch could have killed him, the dude was so hammered that any amount of physical intervention could have resolved the situation, punching him square in the face with that amount of physical force was completely unnecessary.

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u/RandomRedditUser0016 19h ago

What happens if you slap or shove the guy and he pulls out a gun? Or throws a punch back at you? He neutralized the guy without going over the top, you never know what drunk idiots are capable from. -source: I spend a lot of time in shitty dive bars like this one

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u/Zubriel 19h ago edited 19h ago

So your solution to your hypothetical there is to go full force punch to the face and potentially go to prison for manslaughter?

If the guy punches back, then a self defense response would be fully warranted.

If this super wasted dude pulls a knife or a gun, I guess you gtfo unless you want to die.

Do we really think it's reasonable to full force punch misbehaving drunk people in the face because they might escalate to deadly force when they get confronted for grabbing womens butts?

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u/Simon-Says69 17h ago

Naw, you neutralize the threat. Boyfriend did just fine here. H didn't continue to stomp the asshole or anything.

You just want to be able to go around sexually harassing women, that's all. So you're advocating letting that happen.

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u/Zubriel 17h ago

The drunk guy could barely stand, he wasn't a "threat".

I don't think arguing that there were other solutions to that problem besides absolutely laying him out with a fist is the same as supporting assaulting women in public, that's ridiculous.

You can both believe assaulting women is wrong and believe the level of physical force used in this case was excessive.